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Old 05-26-2014, 07:58 PM   #1
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Feedback on Spots S vs Sahara

I am new here and I would love some feedback about the sport s & Sahara. I am a 45 year old woman, personal trainer, beach lover and very active. I am looking to buy my first jeep to drive in the city and road trips. I live in Maryland. Thanks!

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This is from this thread: Sahara or Sport?....

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You can add a few things but not all options or standard features on the Sahara are available on the Sport. The Sahara is the luxury Jeep of the Wrangler line. Among other things it has the highest ground clearance of ANY stock Wrangler, including the Rubicon (Check on jeep.com, guys - Exterior Dimensions & Capacities).

Also, a 2014 stock Sahara isn't anywhere close to $37k. If you don't add any options the base price is just a little over $29k. Check on jeep.com.

Things that come either as standard or are options on the Sahara that are not available on the Sport:

Heated front seats
Leather seats
uConnect with nav
Alpine premium audio (standard on the Sahara, option on the Sport S)
18-inch wheels
Body color 3-piece hard top
Automatic headlights
Body color fender flares
Deep tint windows (standard on Sahara, optional on Sport S)
Hood insulation
Power heated mirrors (standard on Sahara, optional on Sport S)
Remote keyless entry (standard on Sahara, optional on Sport S)
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Security alarm (standard on Sahara, optional on Sport S)
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Very helpful information, thanks so much!
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A Sahara is a Sport S with a few more standard features...some available on the Sport S, some not. It also opens up several more options not available.

The options available may depend on if you are looking at a 2 door or a 4 door.
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Are you looking at a 2 door or 4 door? Some of the info below May vary for a 2 door, but is correct to the best of my knowledge on the 4 doors.

The differences between the two are going to be aesthetics and available options. The Sport comes with black fenders and all black bumpers. The Sahara comes with body colored fenders and the bumpers are silver in the center. The Sport S comes with 17" wheels while the Sahara comes with 18" wheels. The overall tire size is the same, but the Sahara will cost more for replacement tires due to the larger wheel. The Sahara also has a slightly different seat material, is available in saddle or black interior, and leather is also optional. The Sport is available in black cloth only.

I'm not sure with the 2 door, but in the 4 door, the Sahara comes standard with power windows / locks / mirrors, the premium Alpine stereo system with subwoofer, and tinted windows. These items are optional on the Sport S. If you want a radio with touch screen and factory navigation, they are only available on the Sahara, but you can purchase a factory touch screen radio with navigation and install it in the Sport without issue. The Sahara also offers some options such as automatic climate control that are not available on the Sport.

If you are looking at a hard top, the Sahara offers the option of having the top painted to match the Jeep instead of the standard black, which is the only one available for the Sport.

Both trim levels have the same engine, same transmissions, and everything else mechanical.

Jeeps are leaps and bounds ahead of where they were just a few years ago as far as creature comforts and interior design. If you are looking for something a little more mainstream as far as available creature comforts, the Sahara may be more to your liking. I personally bought a Sport S because I like the look of the black fenders as opposed to them being painted and didn't plan on getting a lot of extras such as navigation. I still got the Alpine stereo, which isn't all that great, uConnect to give me hands free phone usage (at least when the top is up or at low speeds), and power windows / locks / mirrors.

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Thanks so much for your responses, I really appreciate the feedback. I am looking for 4 door, soft & hard cover, automatic, power windows/locks/mirrors. I really like the black fenders and bumpers. I did a test drive of the sport s but didn't think about test driving the Sahara but I will. I really don't care about leather seats.
When I test drive the sport I had the AC on and one of my daughters, she was sitting on the back, got dizzy and told me it was too hot and she couldn't feel the air. Have you had any problems with that? How about the heater during winter?
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Can't say that I've had any experience in the back seat. There are no vents in the back, so any air getting back there is coming from the dash. I usually try to direct the two center dash vents between the front seats to direct air to the back. AC has never been an issue because if it is hot, I typically have the top down and then there is more than enough air flow in the back. As far as heat goes, the Wrangler heaters put out a lot of heat. The days of riding with a blanket over your lap are long gone, but there is minimal insulation, so there is lots of hot air coming out of the vents, but it cools off pretty quickly.
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Thanks so much for your responses, I really appreciate the feedback. I am looking for 4 door, soft & hard cover, automatic, power windows/locks/mirrors. I really like the black fenders and bumpers. I did a test drive of the sport s but didn't think about test driving the Sahara but I will. I really don't care about leather seats.
When I test drive the sport I had the AC on and one of my daughters, she was sitting on the back, got dizzy and told me it was too hot and she couldn't feel the air. Have you had any problems with that? How about the heater during winter?
If you are not gong to get leather, and you like the black (I'm assuming plastic, not painted) fenders...I'd look at a Sport S over a Sahara.

The Sahara will have better shocks, and a better tire with a slightly lower profile, so it will ride/handle a touch better than the Sport S...but outside of that, mechanically they are the exact same vehicle. Wheels (and shocks) are easy to change.

And there are no vents to the rear....so I'm assuming it can get a bit warm in the summer and cold in the winter. Luckily, in the summer time the top and doors come off. And in the winter time, I recommend somethng like Hotheads or Boom Mat (headliners) to help insulate the cabin. It actually works well in both summer and winter.
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Thanks so much for your responses, I really appreciate the feedback. I am looking for 4 door, soft & hard cover, automatic, power windows/locks/mirrors. I really like the black fenders and bumpers. I did a test drive of the sport s but didn't think about test driving the Sahara but I will. I really don't care about leather seats.
When I test drive the sport I had the AC on and one of my daughters, she was sitting on the back, got dizzy and told me it was too hot and she couldn't feel the air. Have you had any problems with that? How about the heater during winter?
I have a '13 Sahara Unlimited. The AC in the summer and the heater in the winter do a sucky job at reaching the back seat. You have to point the two middle dash vents towards the back and have your passenger sit right in the middle of the rear seat.

My wife and I use ours on long trips and as a daily driver. I love the Sahara - I went with all the creature comforts as possible. Would be lost in the winter without the heated seats (cloth), and the auto headlights that also automatically turn on when you have the wipers on (state law in IL). Like you, I did prefer the black fenders. Mine is Gecko green, and I feared with the color-matched fenders, that would have been way too much green. Not the case.

PS. I JUST bought a set of the boom mats. Hopefully will get those installed this weekend when I take my hard top off and convert to the soft top. Then I'll have to wait until the Fall to see how well they insulate.
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I did a lot of research and also wanted to make a lot if changes and additions. So went with the Freedom Edition trim. It's basically a Sport S with some addons. Quite happy with it, I should admit. Can't wait to swap out the wheels and the bumpers.
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I did check out the Freedom edition but, I don't like the star. My favorite color is the hydro blue (just like the ocean) and that doesn't come on the Sport S, so my second choice is the flame red, but first I have to decide which one will I get.

So no vents to the rear on the Sport & Sahara, my only concern about that is what to do when having long family drives in the summer, with rain and top on. During winter time, here in the DC area, gets really cold so I hope with the hard top and heater I will be fine. The only thing I do know is that I can't wait to get my Jeep!!

Thanks again to all for your help!
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Has anyone change the Sport S 17" wheel to 18"? Is there much of a difference?
Going this Saturday to test drive the Sahara and make a decision to place my order. I also want to add the trailer tow for bikes. Any other suggestions or recommendations? Thanks!
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Has anyone change the Sport S 17" wheel to 18"? Is there much of a difference?
Going this Saturday to test drive the Sahara and make a decision to place my order. I also want to add the trailer tow for bikes. Any other suggestions or recommendations? Thanks!
Do fall for the trailer tow, you can buy the same thing at various vendors and install yourself for about $80 and 15 minutes of your time.
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Has anyone change the Sport S 17" wheel to 18"? Is there much of a difference?
Going this Saturday to test drive the Sahara and make a decision to place my order. I also want to add the trailer tow for bikes. Any other suggestions or recommendations? Thanks!
Adding trailer tow if you feel you want/need 3.73 gears is a good way to go. However, if you want to stay with 3.21 gears (if you don't anticipate moving to lift/bigger tires), then it works out much cheaper to buy a hitch and harness and install yourself. It's literally a four bolt install.
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If you are getting a 4 door, get the 3.73's....simply for the increased tow limit. You do not want to pay +$30,000 for a 4WD truck that is only rated to tow 2000 pounds. It sucks that Jeep has raised the price of the 3.73 option so much over the past two years (it was a $50 option, and sometimes free in 2012), but it is what it is.

Based on where you live and how you are gonig to use it, get LSD (helps in winter/rain driving) and Connectivity (hands free talking) as well.
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I have a '14 Sport S w/ 3.73 gears and the Power Group option that I love very much. I didn't even think about a Sahara because I personally do not care for leather seats in cars, and heated seats were not much if an issue because the Wrangler already has a legendary heater. I also do not like the look of painted fenders.

My Jeep is my daily driver, and while I haven't taken it on a long trip yet, I drove my '06 Wrangler Unlimited from St. Louis to Myrtle Beach and back with zero problems.
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2013 JKU Sport S, rag top, auto, 3.73 w/tow pkg. Power conv group, tinted. I took the 17 in wheels off and put the 16's from my 2012 JK on, with 33's. At 90+ deg the A/C works fine after you click on the recirc. The heater gets turned down after about 10 miles in 0F temps. I close the two outboard dash vents and just use the two near the driver, unless I have a passenger. I seldom have back seat riders, Id take the seat out if I could. The Sahara is a little more plush. I wasnt worried about plush, the Sport S is plenty plush enough for me. I kinda like the sound system in the Rubicon and Sahara, though...
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I did check out the Freedom edition but, I don't like the star. My favorite color is the hydro blue (just like the ocean) and that doesn't come on the Sport S, so my second choice is the flame red, but first I have to decide which one will I get.

So no vents to the rear on the Sport & Sahara, my only concern about that is what to do when having long family drives in the summer, with rain and top on. During winter time, here in the DC area, gets really cold so I hope with the hard top and heater I will be fine. The only thing I do know is that I can't wait to get my Jeep!!

Thanks again to all for your help!
Sorry, I didn't see this one before.

I bought a Freedom Edition just to get hydro blue, but I, like you, was not a fan of the stars or the body colored fenders.

If you check out my build thread, you can see one idea of what you can do with a Freedom Edition and a little imagination!
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If you are getting a 4 door, get the 3.73's....simply for the increased tow limit. You do not want to pay +$30,000 for a 4WD truck that is only rated to tow 2000 pounds. It sucks that Jeep has raised the price of the 3.73 option so much over the past two years (it was a $50 option, and sometimes free in 2012), but it is what it is.

Based on where you live and how you are gonig to use it, get LSD (helps in winter/rain driving) and Connectivity (hands free talking) as well.
Didn't think about that, I live in Maryland so that is a good idea, thanks!
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Sorry, I didn't see this one before.

I bought a Freedom Edition just to get hydro blue, but I, like you, was not a fan of the stars or the body colored fenders.

If you check out my build thread, you can see one idea of what you can do with a Freedom Edition and a little imagination!
OMG you removed the star! You are killing me, I love the hydro blue color. Very nice all the work you did to your Freedom, congrats! I don't understand why they don't have that color on the a Sport S or Sahara.

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OMG you removed the star! You are killing me, I love the hydro blue color. Very nice all the work you did to your Freedom, congrats! I don't understand why they don't have that color on the a Sport S or Sahara.

Thanks for sharing!
I knew when I decided to get one, it HAD to be a blue jeep! No way around it.

The star was super easy to remove. Took all of about three minutes. If you don't want to wait for a 2015, don't hesitate to buy a Freedom Edition and take the stars off.

That being said, hydro blue WILL be available on the 2015s in ALL trim models.

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I knew when I decided to get one, it HAD to be a blue jeep! No way around it.

The star was super easy to remove. Took all of about three minutes. If you don't want to wait for a 2015, don't hesitate to buy a Freedom Edition and take the stars off.

That being said, hydro blue WILL be available on the 2015s in ALL trim models.

Thank you very much! I'm glad you liked the pictures!
Glad you tell me, 2015, mhhh I might wait. Thanks!
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Glad you tell me, 2015, mhhh I might wait. Thanks!
2015 order window opens tomorrow!
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Regarding the heat/cold in the rear seat, I made my own headliners and it made a huge difference in how hot or cold the rear seat area is. I would highly recommend doing some type of headliner. I am pretty sure mine has more insulation than Hotheads, but anything would help. The black top gets very hot in the summer sun and all that heat is transmitted right into the passenger compartment.
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2015 order window opens tomorrow!
So I called Jeep and they told me they don't know about the color that will be available and they said to contact my dealership and ask them because they will have more information. Dealership doesn't know anything either. They just said that production starts in august and orders probably can be done in September. So frustrating!
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+1 on the headliners. I have Hotheads. I would have went with the thicker Boommat, but Hotheads had the oak/saddle color, along with covering the rear side windows.

They help....but in the summer...it is soft top time anyway (where I highly recommend something like a Spiderwebshade).
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+1 on the headliners. I have Hotheads. I would have went with the thicker Boommat, but Hotheads had the oak/saddle color, along with covering the rear side windows.

They help....but in the summer...it is soft top time anyway (where I highly recommend something like a Spiderwebshade).
What a great idea!
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Regarding the heat/cold in the rear seat, I made my own headliners and it made a huge difference in how hot or cold the rear seat area is. I would highly recommend doing some type of headliner. I am pretty sure mine has more insulation than Hotheads, but anything would help. The black top gets very hot in the summer sun and all that heat is transmitted right into the passenger compartment.
Care to share what you did here: anybody make their own hard top head liner? ??
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I'm came within a hair of making my own because Hotheads were so expensive and Boommat didn't come in tan/brown. I had the fabric picked out from JoAnn Fabrics, and I was going to use 1/2" thich styrofoam insualtion from either Home Depot or Menards.

But in the end, it was just easier to go with Hotheads during one of their sales.

They are expensive and fairly thin, but very, very, very high quality, with excellent customer service. HotHeads (Mark Ambrose) is/was actually a custom upholstery shop...so the headliners look better than OEM.

Photos from their site....I knew I wasn't going to be able to make something that looked that nice...not on my first try anyway.








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Adding trailer tow if you feel you want/need 3.73 gears is a good way to go. However, if you want to stay with 3.21 gears (if you don't anticipate moving to lift/bigger tires), then it works out much cheaper to buy a hitch and harness and install yourself. It's literally a four bolt install.
Adding the tow hitch yourself would save a few dollars if you feel comfortable crawling under the back end of your vehicle and bolting on the hitch yourself. You would also have to install the required trailer wiring package. Personally, not a big deal for me to do this, but some may not want to. You can hire U-haul or others to do this for you, but then some of your savings is lost.

Plus, when you order a factory hitch, the electronic trailer anti-sway is activated - which makes towing safer. You could probably go to a dealer and have that done after you install the hitch yourself, but they might charge you $50 or $100 - thus negating some of the cost savings of a DIY trailer hitch. Trailer anti sway is probably not important to the OP, as she may not be towing anything - that is, if she uses the hitch only for bike racks and the like.

If that's the case, no actual towing is planned, then the 3.21 gears will give a little better gas mileage at the expense of acceleration, the ability to tow heavier trailers and the ability to go to larger tires in the future.

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