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Old 06-30-2013, 07:33 PM   #1
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Fender flare painting.

I have a 2013, 2-door, sport, black, hard top, unpainted flares.

It looks very.. Average.

Now, im coming from a 92 YJ, which was very.... not average. It was an islander, blue, with orange accents, SOA, TSL radials.. Yea, you could see me coming.

So its killing me that my new JK, which i dont really intend to go crazy modifying, doesnt stand out at all.

Anyway, I'm starting to plan a few basic mods, the most drastic of which is 32's, when the stock tires are worn out. I thought, to make it more.. Mine.. I'd paint the fenders and bumpers. Some sort of contrast color. I'm considering Olive Drab, or maybe that metalic green i'm seeing around. Whats that called anyway? Ive seen it on 2013 wranglers and patriots.

Anyway, the point here is... How can i paint these flares so they dont crack or bubble later? What sort of prep needs to go down before i paint? Do they need to be primed? I assume since theyre not metal, primer may not be as important, but does the paint bond to the plastic flares like it would primed metal?

Thanks for any input!

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Never attempted it myself but from what I understand there is just as much prep work involved in painting plastic as there is for metal.

I do know that there are specific primers for the different varieties of plastic and I believe there are special paints for plastic that provide a little more flexibility so that they don't crack when/if the plastic flexes.

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I would try the KRYLON FUSION paint in spray cans. It's sold at Walmart and others. It is supposed to be plastic adhesive and bond to plastics.
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Try to dip them, if you paint them you will want to sand them texture out of them, and you are not likely to get the finish you are hoping for. I am looking at some replacement paintable fenders. I am in the same boat as you, wanting a better stand out look.
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Aren't the body colored Sahara fenders a completely different part? They're smooth. I think I would start with some metal flat fenders and paint them. Its expensive, but the results would be durable and great.
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I had the same question/issues. I ended up buying a set of used Sahara flares and got them painted body color- very pleased
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Old 07-07-2013, 08:07 AM   #7
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If i were to get paint in spray cans, any idea how i;d figure out how much I need? I'm thinking of getting paint from someplace like paintscratch.com, in a stock jeep color, in rattle-cans. They give me all sorts of recommendations on how to make the paint stick to the flares properly, but they don't seem to tell me how to figure out how much i'm going to need. I don't mind having some paint left over, but i also dont want to over buy.

The plan is to paint all 4 fenders, and maybe the front and rear bumpers.

Thanks!
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Start with sahara fenders or aftermarket fenders meant to be painted. Or use a colored bedliner on them...........
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If i were to get paint in spray cans, any idea how i;d figure out how much I need? I'm thinking of getting paint from someplace like paintscratch.com, in a stock jeep color, in rattle-cans. They give me all sorts of recommendations on how to make the paint stick to the flares properly, but they don't seem to tell me how to figure out how much i'm going to need. I don't mind having some paint left over, but i also dont want to over buy.

The plan is to paint all 4 fenders, and maybe the front and rear bumpers.

Thanks!
I painted a dirtbike with krylon fusion once. Well, it was an 82, so it didnt have a lot of plastic. One can did both fenders with a good couple of coats.

So i say one can per fender.
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Start with sahara fenders or aftermarket fenders meant to be painted. Or use a colored bedliner on them...........
I have trouble believing that Chrysler made different fenders that were _meant_ for paint. with proper prep, why would i not be able to paint these unpainted flares?
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I have trouble believing that Chrysler made different fenders that were _meant_ for paint. with proper prep, why would i not be able to paint these unpainted flares?
It's not that you can't paint them, it's the amount of prep you'd need to do to get them to look smooth after the paint job.

If you're going for that smooth finish to match the rest of your paint (not color, just finish) it would be far easier to start with a painted fender that's already smooth than to try and sand/fill/sand/fill/sand/prime/wet sand/fill/prime/wet sand/fill/prime/wet sand/prime/paint.

If you're looking for the same type of finish that the standard stock black fenders look like, just Plasti-dip them in one of the Camo colors. If you don't like the look, peel it off and try again. 2 cans should be enough to do all 4 fenders, and at less than $8 a can (and minimal prep), it's a win win situation.
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I have trouble believing that Chrysler made different fenders that were _meant_ for paint. with proper prep, why would i not be able to paint these unpainted flares?
Guess youve never even seen a sahara
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I'll second the plasti-dip suggestion. But if you don't like that idea then maybe look at Line-X. My local shop quoted me $85/fender which isn't too bad after you figure the amount of prep work, paint and headache you'd save yourself. And definitely cheaper than buying aftermarket flares.
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I'll second the plasti-dip suggestion. But if you don't like that idea then maybe look at Line-X. My local shop quoted me $85/fender which isn't too bad after you figure the amount of prep work, paint and headache you'd save yourself. And definitely cheaper than buying aftermarket flares.
I wonder if it could be haggled down...
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Judging by the way he gave me the numbers, just kind of an off-the-cuff quote while doing a walk-around, (I also asked about bumpers n' junk) I'm almost certain it could be haggled. But I was just after a ballpark figure at the time.
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Guess youve never even seen a sahara
Sah-what-a? Never heard of them man. That some kind of new fangled paint or something?
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Sah-what-a? Never heard of them man. That some kind of new fangled paint or something?
Yup. Its extra strong paint for extreme mall crawling.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:17 AM   #18
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So... I dont know what unpainted JK flares you guys have seen, but i took a good look at my flares last night. Theyre smooth. Or, reasonably smooth. They're not textured. They appear to be just slightly rough to the touch, but i honestly think that primer, paint, and clear coat will make that un-noticeable. I couldnt imagine needing to fill/sand these as suggested, there;s next to nothing to fill. I dont think body filler would even adhere to the ever so slight texture on these things.

I did some reading at paintscratch.com, they recommend a layer of adhesion promoter, then a layer of rubberized primer. Then paint, then clear. With that many layers, finished with a rub-down of rubbing compound... These will end up smooth, i;m certain.
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So... I dont know what unpainted JK flares you guys have seen, but i took a good look at my flares last night. Theyre smooth. Or, reasonably smooth. They're not textured. They appear to be just slightly rough to the touch, but i honestly think that primer, paint, and clear coat will make that un-noticeable. I couldnt imagine needing to fill/sand these as suggested, there;s next to nothing to fill. I dont think body filler would even adhere to the ever so slight texture on these things.

I did some reading at paintscratch.com, they recommend a layer of adhesion promoter, then a layer of rubberized primer. Then paint, then clear. With that many layers, finished with a rub-down of rubbing compound... These will end up smooth, i;m certain.
If you have factory fenders, they are textured and different from the painted flares that come on Saharas and are available on Rubicons.
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I'm not sure why anyone would want the painted flares. My rear flares catch so many stones that they are already totally chipped and literally have flakes coming off them underneath. This is after less than a year of ownership.

I am thinking about going bushwacker just so I don't have to look at these anymore.
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So... I dont know what unpainted JK flares you guys have seen, but i took a good look at my flares last night. Theyre smooth. Or, reasonably smooth. They're not textured. They appear to be just slightly rough to the touch, but i honestly think that primer, paint, and clear coat will make that un-noticeable. I couldnt imagine needing to fill/sand these as suggested, there;s next to nothing to fill. I dont think body filler would even adhere to the ever so slight texture on these things.

I did some reading at paintscratch.com, they recommend a layer of adhesion promoter, then a layer of rubberized primer. Then paint, then clear. With that many layers, finished with a rub-down of rubbing compound... These will end up smooth, i;m certain.
I looked into the same process man. Few people have done this on a few other threads. Krylon fusion or rustoleum bed liner are what has worked best. Let me know how they come out, I'll be doing mine sometime soon also.
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If you spray them post pics and instructions on how you did it please. Thanks
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My flares got really beat up and chipped, I just took them off and sanded the heck out of them with some sand paper, washed them off really good, then sprayed them with like 5 coats of bed liner I got at AutoZone for 13$ a can.
Looks awesome and super durable. Would never plasti dip....
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How many cans did it take?
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I used 2 cans for the 4 flares
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I used 2 cans for the 4 big flares and 2 little ones on my tj
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Product brand is a personal preference and mine was to use Dupli-Color products including spray-on bedliner.

1. Use the RED Scotch Brite pads to scuff the surface to be painted. Do not use the green or blue pads. The red pads are for automotive body prep work. The green & blue pads are made for household chores. Supposedly all automotive body shop people use the red pads. NOTE: The only hard part here is finding said, Red pads. I couldn't find these at any retail store. I searched PepBoys, Advance Auro, Autozone, Napa, Wallmart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, and a few other local retail chain stores in my area with no luck. I found the red pads online through a auto paint supplier in Florida and bought a box. All the places online I found who sold these pads, had one thing in common - which was that the pads are only sold by the box. I purchased a quanity (box) of 20 for $29.00 shipped.

2. Use a surface cleaner like acetone (I used the Dupli-Color brand) sprayed directly to the surface to be painted and wipe dry with a lint-free cloth. The key here is to make sure there are no contaminates remaining on the surface including peeled, bubbled, cracked or chipped paint.

3. Mask (tape) off the area to be painted. The best tape to use (again, according to a pro) is the green tape from 3M. It too is made for automotive body work unlike the blue tape made for painting interiors of homes and such. I found the green tape at Advance Auto (btw; the only auto parts store who had it). Newspaper can be used to protect areas outside the prep area to be painted.

4. Apply the adhesion promoter.

5. Apply the bedliner (paint).
Dupli-Color recommends waiting 5 minutes between coatings. You can go as thin or thick with the bedliner as you like.

Hope this helps.
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Product brand is a personal preference and mine was to use Dupli-Color products including spray-on bedliner.

1. Use the RED Scotch Brite pads to scuff the surface to be painted. Do not use the green or blue pads. The red pads are for automotive body prep work. The green & blue pads are made for household chores. Supposedly all automotive body shop people use the red pads. NOTE: The only hard part here is finding said, Red pads. I couldn't find these at any retail store. I searched PepBoys, Advance Auro, Autozone, Napa, Wallmart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Ace Hardware, and a few other local retail chain stores in my area with no luck. I found the red pads online through a auto paint supplier in Florida and bought a box. All the places online I found who sold these pads, had one thing in common - which was that the pads are only sold by the box. I purchased a quanity (box) of 20 for $29.00 shipped.

2. Use a surface cleaner like acetone (I used the Dupli-Color brand) sprayed directly to the surface to be painted and wipe dry with a lint-free cloth. The key here is to make sure there are no contaminates remaining on the surface including peeled, bubbled, cracked or chipped paint.

3. Mask (tape) off the area to be painted. The best tape to use (again, according to a pro) is the green tape from 3M. It too is made for automotive body work unlike the blue tape made for painting interiors of homes and such. I found the green tape at Advance Auto (btw; the only auto parts store who had it). Newspaper can be used to protect areas outside the prep area to be painted.

4. Apply the adhesion promoter.

5. Apply the bedliner (paint).
Dupli-Color recommends waiting 5 minutes between coatings. You can go as thin or thick with the bedliner as you like.

Hope this helps.
Pics!! Adhesion promoter? what does the dupli Color do in between coats? you sprayed fenders with them on jeep?
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I rolled MonstaLiner on my flares to match my paint (Sahara Tan)...
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I'm not sure why anyone would want the painted flares. My rear flares catch so many stones that they are already totally chipped and literally have flakes coming off them underneath. This is after less than a year of ownership.

I am thinking about going bushwacker just so I don't have to look at these anymore.
^^I agree, my black plastic ones are scratched to crap from bushes and tree branches along trails, I could't imagine what they'd look like if they were painted. I agree with bed liner.

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