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Old 07-20-2012, 09:37 AM   #1
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Finally Decided on Sport S...I think...

I've gone around and round on this decision. Started with Rubicon, couldn't find what I wanted, went to Sahara...same, same .Now, I'm thinking get a Sport S, then add the stuff I want probably for a lot less than factory options, Here's the stuff I want that I think I gotta get from Jeep:

Silver/Black Cloth
Black hardtop
5 sp auto
Preferred Package 24S
3.73 gears
Limited Slip
Connectivity
Premium Sound

I can aftermarket add: towing capability, heated seats, Garmin GPS

What d' ya think?

This way, I get just what I want and nothin I don't and save a pile of $, yes?

Please chime in cuz I wanna pull the trigger on this pretty soon...like noon today.

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I think the Limited Slip option is a waste of money. It works a little for about 50,000 miles, then doesn't work at all when the clutches burn out.

I love my Sport S. The Rubi would be overkill for 90% of people. The 4:1 t-case is so low that even the guys at Four Wheeler magazine said it's overkill for a DD. Unless you plan to spend a LOT of time offroad, the Rubi is not the best choice.

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I bought what you're looking fo but had the max tow and side air bags with mine. Then I lifted and modded it the way I wanted it. Only thing I really wanted was a standard plug like the shara and rubi have but I can live with it. My girlfriend bought an Altitude a few weeks later and it's cool but save your money and get the Sport S.
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Great minds think alike!! The Wrangler Sport S I ordered is almost identical to yours except I added the Power Conv. Group.

I ruled out Rubicon because it adds $6k and unless you're an offroad enthusiast it's a waste of money. Besides that, limited slip is better then lockers in typical on-road winter conditions. (that's more important to me then Moab style rock climbing)

I ruled out Sahara because all you get for the extra $3K is "fluff".

I really wanted in dash Nav and I wish it was an option on Sport S. However you can accomplish this by adding a MyGig RHB unit which is 100% plug and play. There's plenty on Ebay for $1000 + or _.

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Old 07-20-2012, 10:34 AM   #5
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I got similar to yours, with the power group...glad I did with remote key entry and no more reaching to lower or raise windows. I only got the hardtop and ordered the Trektop NX, seems cheaper and easier to install, but then I usually go safari or topless here in socal.
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Old 07-20-2012, 10:55 AM   #6
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Good choice. People have always modified their wranglers, then Jeep decided they could get a piece of the pie- hence the Rubicon was born. Your right- overkill for most, plus why pay interest for X number of years on something you can do yourself? I have the 24S package and I'm glad I did. The toughest decision for me was the color! The only thing I did different was I got the Katzskin with heat and dual top. Looking forward to it in the winter! Enjoy.
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sahara is all appearance crap. i bought a rubicon because........ well i use it. i love my 4-1 t case. and the limited slip is a waste all together with the brake lock differential.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:04 AM   #8
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I used to have buyers remorse about not going Rubi but now I don't know if I would go for it. I used to wish i had the auto-disconnect but a pair of JKS Quicker Disconnects solved that issue for me. The only thing i wish I had that will be a PITA to upgrade is D44 front and lockers.. but that can be had for 3k(ish)
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I think the Limited Slip option is a waste of money. It works a little for about 50,000 miles, then doesn't work at all when the clutches burn out.
What are you basing that information on? I have 66k on mine with no issues and I wheel it all the time.
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sahara is all appearance crap. i bought a rubicon because........ well i use it. i love my 4-1 t case. and the limited slip is a waste all together with the brake lock differential.
How exactly is it a waste? BLD and LSD work in conjunction.
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What are you basing that information on? I have 66k on mine with no issues and I wheel it all the time.
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How exactly is it a waste? BLD and LSD work in conjunction.
I'm kinda wondering the same thing ...
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I used to have buyers remorse about not going Rubi but now I don't know if I would go for it. I used to wish i had the auto-disconnect but a pair of JKS Quicker Disconnects solved that issue for me. The only thing i wish I had that will be a PITA to upgrade is D44 front and lockers.. but that can be had for 3k(ish)
i picked my Rubi up for less than the Sahara sitting next to it so the 3k was a no brainier for me. where im at actual place to use the extra stuff is kind of a drive. guess no one around here wants one with out the 18in chromes.
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How exactly is it a waste? BLD and LSD work in conjunction.
only in the situation he was using. the LSD is a great upgrade. but for slick roads the BLD does plenty.
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Old 07-20-2012, 11:41 AM   #14
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Adding Towing and Issue?

If the Sport S does not have the tow package, how difficult is it to add Class II towing? I'll get the 3.73, but just won't have the receiver or wiring.
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What are you basing that information on? I have 66k on mine with no issues and I wheel it all the time.
Basing it on personal experience, as well as what everybody else on the forums has said over the years. The "Trak-Loc" option is affectionately known on the forums as "Trash-Loc" for a good reason.

The $$$ would be better spent on taking the open diffs. the factory gives you and then adding Aussie Lockers. You'd have the same money invested, but you'd have something that works.
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:23 PM   #17
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When I was shopping, I loved looking at the Rubi, but the $7k diff and the Auto 5 speed put me in the Sport. I love the thing, and am very confident that I made the right choice. I did not see $7k worth of stuff I would personally use. Great looking rig but the sport can look the same with some wheels and tires and the Auto tranny is great for a DD. Also, I am really digging the stock look of the Sport now. Fear not, get the Sport!!
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Old 07-20-2012, 12:24 PM   #18
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Great minds think alike!! The Wrangler Sport S I ordered is almost identical to yours except I added the Power Conv. Group.

I ruled out Rubicon because it adds $6k and unless you're an offroad enthusiast it's a waste of money. Besides that, limited slip is better then lockers in typical on-road winter conditions. (that's more important to me then Moab style rock climbing)

I ruled out Sahara because all you get for the extra $3K is "fluff".

I really wanted in dash Nav and I wish it was an option on Sport S. However you can accomplish this by adding a MyGig RHB unit which is 100% plug and play. There's plenty on Ebay for $1000 + or _.

Enjoy your Jeep!
I did the same thing for the same reasons. I had planned to purchase a Rubicon just in case I ever needed it, but the longer spent thinking about it, and looking at my bank account, I can compromise on what I'm looking for.
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I think the Sport S is a great buy...especially with the price increases for the 2013's (and even more so if you don't need the features of a Rubi).

It allows you to order the "hard to replace" features while keeping the price fairly low.
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My thoughts on the Rubicon were, "No sense buying all that "talent" if you can't use it enough." Anything I will be involved in will be easily handled by the Sport. After all it is still a "Wrangler"

As for the Sahara, painted fenders, and leather seats....? Just not pratical (read: scratch, break, crack, ruin).

Went with the Sport S and have added anything I felt neccessary for next to nothing.
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Basing it on personal experience, as well as what everybody else on the forums has said over the years. The "Trak-Loc" option is affectionately known on the forums as "Trash-Loc" for a good reason.

The $$$ would be better spent on taking the open diffs. the factory gives you and then adding Aussie Lockers. You'd have the same money invested, but you'd have something that works.
Don't believe everything you read on "forums". Mine works great and I have never read of someone with ACTUAL experience of it failing. It's always talk of someone who "heard" it was no good. Same money for Aussie Lockers? Please show me where you can get them for $295 installed.
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Seriously? Um, the Aussie lockers are $289 and you can install yourself in like 20 minutes.

I PERSONALLY have owned two Trak-Loc equipped diffs that didn't work with a crap by the time they hit 60K miles or so. Yes, you can get them rebuilt with new clutches but how much is that going to cost you?

Just take the open diffs and if the standard BLD system isn't enough for you, add a lunchbox locker later. It's money better spent.
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I stand corrected, it is only $289. A 20 minute install is a bit optomistc. However for the JK it is front only and it is an automatic locker. I would not want that type of set up on a DD. For the record I have 66K on my LSD and it is stil going strong.
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I'm pretty sure aussie and other lunch box style lockers can't be easily installed into the JKs because you need a new carrier as well due to the lack of lunchbox sizing for the JK? or is that only those of us with the LSD?
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There is no option for a rear on the JK according to their website and it cannot be install with a LSD. The front would work well in conjunction with a LSD, but again I would not want an auto locker on the front of my DD.

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