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Old 06-28-2013, 09:38 AM   #1
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First Aid kit

I'm prepping for a long road trip in Aug. and one of things I need to get together is a good first aid kit. There will be 4 of us (my wife, two boys and myself). I was looking at this kit

Amazon.com: Adventure Medical Kits World Travel Kit: Sports & Outdoors

Does someone else have a better option?

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Well we started off buying first aid kits for our trips/hikes. But eventually learned that we can make our own customized kits. Overall it's cheaper and you get to put in what you want.

FYI: You can make the same first aid kit you posted for cheaper and end up having more left over as well. Just doesnt have the fancy container. We usually buy a cheap slim container (to fit in backpack) and works great. Water resistant too

Some suggestions to start:
  • Tweezers
  • Safety Pins
  • Antibiotic Ointment
  • Antiseptic Towelettes
  • Wound Closure Strips
  • Moleskin or duct tape for blisters
  • Bandaids
  • ACE bandage
  • Bandanna (for splints)
  • Ibuprofen
  • Antihistamine
  • Gatorade powdered drink (emergency electrolytes, energy)
Also, for a survival/first aid kit:
  • Signaling device (whistle, mirror)
  • Safety Matches/fire-starter
  • Mylar blanket

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I agree with make your own. This is an important question--are you going to be just traveling within short distances of medical services, or are you going to be out in the boonies (potentially even out of cell phone range)? This drastically impacts what you put in a kit.

But I'd add to any kit:

Coban (a stretchy, sticks to itself wrap that is useful for tons of things)
Duck tape (another vote for this--you can close/splint nasty stuff with it)
SAM splint (very valuable for sprains, breaks, etc.)
A good first aid book that you can understand.
Alcohol (either wipes or even better in a small bottle)
Hydrogen Peroxide (good for bubbling stuff out of dirty wounds)
Aspirin (you need to make sure of no allergies, but it is one of the first things given to someone with chest pain/possible acute cardiac syndrome)
Disposable gloves

Many lists are out there to pick and choose from.
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I'm going to be driving cross-country with stops at Moab and several other national Parks. we'll never be out there so this is more of a backup plan in case we get into trouble. What I like about the kit that i posted is how its in different compartments and clearly labeled and organized. I imagine, in a panic situation you don't want to have to rip apart a bin looking for what you need.
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I think you can organize it yourself, better. Plus, typical those kits only unpack once. Also, you would have to study the kit to know exactly where everything is, or the organization doesn't necessarily help. Lastly, if time is really that critical, its likely the kit isn't going to save the bacon.

Having said that, a pre-done kit is well worth it versus not having anything. If you go that route, I would still look at supplementing it with some of the items that have been suggested (assuming it doesn't include them).

I thought of a few more items:

- flashlight
- snake bite kit (not so much for an actual snake bite, but I think the suction device is useful for bee and wasp stings)
- the specific antihistamine I would pack would be Claritin Redi-Tabs (first choice) or Benadryl (second choice).
- feminine hygiene pads (the heavy flow kind)--these make great trauma pads
- baby wipes (good for removing serious grime, not so much for cleaning wounds)
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Here is what I carry.. First Aid Kit along with a snake bite kit, extra water and an extra flashlight with spare batteries.
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My EDC and BOB kits include a blood clotting powder like Quick Clot, Wound Seal, Blood Stop or Bleed Arrest in my kit. It's available at just about any drug store.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:46 PM   #8
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I'm prepping for a long road trip in Aug. and one of things I need to get together is a good first aid kit. There will be 4 of us (my wife, two boys and myself). I was looking at this kit

Amazon.com: Adventure Medical Kits World Travel Kit: Sports & Outdoors

Does someone else have a better option?
If you are willing to spend the money, then fine, but I bet if you total up the prices of all the things in that kit, you'll come up with a total that's half or even a third of what you'll spend on the kit. While it's all labeled and organized, does it have everything you need? I bet if you take a toiletry bag, (heck even a ziplock bag to really save on cost) and pull stuff out your medicine cabinet, you'll end up with a better kit, and one that's better suited for you and your family.
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I agree with the other posters. I actually was just organizing my BOBs and I have a whole duffle of med supplies that I packed in it. (I am a soon to be RN) most items in a "first aid kit" are band aids... That fact alone burns me. The bleed stop powder at CVS is like $8 but is well worth it. I also suggest betadine, tweezers, ace wrap, burn ointment, tylenol, ibprofen, and oral gel. Just my 2˘. You can check out the survival forums too if you are looking for mass stuff or check out contents in an EMT bag, but it sounds like you just want a simple first aid kit, so put it together yourself
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Does someone else have a better option?
I have this one.
Amazon.com: Coleman Expedition First Aid Kit: Sports & Outdoors

It's a good starting point in a nice case with plenty of room to customize. Easier on the wallet too I think I found it in the camping section at Wally World.
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I got a $20 kit at SAMs club. Every thing in there seems like second rate very generic stuff. I think putting together you own kit is the way to go to. Red Cross has some recommendations. http://www.redcross.org/prepare/loca...et-kit/anatomy
I would also download there smartphone app. It came in handy for me when my brother got badly burned.

The things I would say are must have supplies.

Good set of tweezers
Pepto bismol for heart burn or the runs
Aloe or some good burn ointment
a few sized band aids
aspirin
visine
a few wet wipes from a BBQ place
duck tape
water and paper towels
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Burn gel is a good thing to pack:

Amazon.com: Water-Jel Technologies 3.5 Gram Unit Dose Packet Burn Jel Topical Gel (6 Per ...: Home Improvement

Instant cooling to reduce the damage/pain from burns....
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Old 06-28-2013, 11:01 PM   #13
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Forget those pre made kits. Make your own based on what your doing and where youll be. Some good suggestions on here, but Antihistamine and/or epi pen are a must. And no you dont have to have a known allegy to need to carry them, the time to figure out your deathly allergic to bees isnt in the middle of the woods or desert the first time you get stung....oh and I never take pain pills, but I fill the scripts whenever a dr writes one and they go in my kit. I want enough to be able to drag myself to safety with bilateral femur fractures
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Rolled gauze, 4x4 gauze pads, trauma dressings, pressure dressings, coflex bandage wrap, medical tape, and trauma sheers. With these items you can treat many wounds many different ways. This would be a good start to a wound kit.
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If you don't mind spending a bundle for a kit set up by an emergency room doc, then check out Doc Blue's Emergency Medical Kit. You will be out some real money but you will have a well organized kit with just about everything you might need.
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I agree with making your own kit so you know what is in it and get high quality items. One thing that is over looked is training on how to use the items you have. Everyone knows how to apply a bandaid but the things that will save a life takes some knowledge, training and practice. Take a course if you can with the money you save by making your own kit.
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This is the route I went and we stocked it ourselves. My wife is in the medical/pharmacy field so we had good insight into what to stock it with - all of which has been mentioned above except alcohol preps, a small sharp knife and good, medical grade scissors. That bag is rather roomy if you pack it right.
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Snake bite kits, they do more damage then good. Any Doctor will tell you Don't use them.

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If you don't mind spending a bundle for a kit set up by an emergency room doc, then check out Doc Blue's Emergency Medical Kit. You will be out some real money but you will have a well organized kit with just about everything you might need.
For $350, you could probably hire an EMT to go with you!
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For $350, you could probably hire an EMT to go with you!
Wow... You can get this setup individually from Amazon for less than $100. $350? Really... Wow.
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I'm on our local ski patrol. I keep my pack in the Jeep. As ski patrol we lean heavily on cravats and Sam splints.
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Snake bite kits, they do more damage then good. Any Doctor will tell you Don't use them.

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For envenomation by a snake, yes. As I said above, for use in a bee or wasp sting, they may have some utility.
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That Smittybilt First Aid Storage bag is what I ended up buying (my first and only Smittybilt product on the jeep... I feel dirty now) then ended up stocking it myself.

Besides the basics, other items that I included were Water-Jel Burn Spray, Israeli Bandages and some Celox.

This is what I was looking at but then decided it might be a bit much....
Amazon.com: Elite Large Fully Stocked GI Issue Medic First Aid Kit Bag: Sports & Outdoors

Why I went with the Smittybilt bag was that I wanted something that I could leave in the jeep and have it be out of the way. The military bag is nice but I would have ended up only having it in my Jeep when I was offroad. Not good if you need it any other time and it's not there. The Smitty bag is smaller and there are things that I couldnt pack in it but better to have something then nothing.
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I second the adventure medical kits. I know people say that you can make your own kit better. Well that may be true. Highly unlikely though. And you can also register their kits and they update you when anything inside is close to expiration. They are very well thought out kits.
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I highly recommend making sure to have at least two sport quick clot packs and dental emergency kit too. These usually don't come with emergency first aid kits but are must haves.
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The better snake bite kits look like this one - forget the cheap suction cup looking ones - Snake Bite Kit

For some snake bites, there's nothing you can do, just too deep. Others are more of a nick or surface bite, the kit may help some in that case. The biggest help though is to actually be able to ID the snake, and to person that got bit should keep their blood pressure as low as possible (calm).

Think about others when building the kit too. You may come across someone else needing help. A good supply of nitrile gloves (I refuse to buy latex because of allergies), at least one disposable CPR mask (training recommended), a stop watch (or app for the phone), an LED flashlight with batteries removed in a sealed baggie. Zip ties are good to keep around too. I also pack the instant heat or instant cold packs, depending on season. A bungie cord - many uses.

The gloves have many uses, if a person cuts their hand, you can use a glove after bandaging it to help keep it clean, dry, and protected. Gloves also can be used as ice packs, or cool packs with cold spring water and tie it off like a water balloon and put over the area that needs cooling.
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I highly recommend making sure to have at least two sport quick clot packs and dental emergency kit too. These usually don't come with emergency first aid kits but are must haves.
Good call! I was under the Jeep a few weeks ago and dropped a big wrench right on my mouth. My first worry was that I had just lost a tooth, which luckily ended up not being the case. But my second worry came when I found out that face cuts bleed...and bleed...and bleed...
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The better snake bite kits look like this one - forget the cheap suction cup looking ones - Snake Bite Kit

For some snake bites, there's nothing you can do, just too deep. Others are more of a nick or surface bite, the kit may help some in that case. The biggest help though is to actually be able to ID the snake, and to person that got bit should keep their blood pressure as low as possible (calm).

Think about others when building the kit too. You may come across someone else needing help. A good supply of nitrile gloves (I refuse to buy latex because of allergies), at least one disposable CPR mask (training recommended), a stop watch (or app for the phone), an LED flashlight with batteries removed in a sealed baggie. Zip ties are good to keep around too. I also pack the instant heat or instant cold packs, depending on season. A bungie cord - many uses.

The gloves have many uses, if a person cuts their hand, you can use a glove after bandaging it to help keep it clean, dry, and protected. Gloves also can be used as ice packs, or cool packs with cold spring water and tie it off like a water balloon and put over the area that needs cooling.
This is a great post. FWIW on snake bites (this is for US pit vipers only--I am uncertain about other county's snakes), a fair percentage of the bites are dry (meaning no or very little venom injected). That doesn't impact (necessarily) how you react if you or someone you are with is bitten, but it can sometimes provide some comfort.

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