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Old 01-22-2014, 11:11 PM   #1
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First Aid setup.. Where do you keep it and whats in it?

Have noticed the following bag seems to be pretty popular on the Interweb..

http://www.quadratec.com/products/15179_5000.htm

Looks pretty functional, but it doesn't come with any supplies in it..

Is anyone using this and If so what do you have in it?

Is there something else out there that you all recommend?

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Old 01-22-2014, 11:32 PM   #2
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Keep mine under the rear cargo mat. I've got everything, even a suture kit. You just never know.

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For daily use, I keep this kit behind my roll bar right next to the rear washer plug in. Amazon.com: Adventure Medical Kits Comprehensive Kit: Health & Personal Care

When camping, wheeling events or on the top of a Colorado Mountain I carry a much larger kit stuffed with a lot of things you'd need when far from help, sutures and quick clot especially. Amazon.com: Plano Medical Box (Orange/White): Sports & Outdoors
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I'll admit, mine is somewhat lacking in respect to major trauma, but it's fully stocked with the basics as well as CPR, snake bite kit, gauze, compression bandages, quick clot, butterfly closures, etc. I don't go to extremely remote places and I never go alone.

It's strapped and velcro'd to the rear roll bar for easy access. This is the one I have and it has a fair amount of room inside. (It's the same as the OP posted.)

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I carry an extensive set up, but I am a NREMT-P with a very understanding Medical Director, and I live in a rather remote part of the country.

Oxygen, AED, Airways, Compact AMBU-Bag, Adjustable C-Collar, Secondary Assessment Equipment and limited pharmacology stuff (Anaphilaxis), some medical tools to include often used tweezers...haha. In this day and age of Medical Helicopters, I plan my kit to keep somebody alive long enough to get a bird to the scene. I also have a pocket Garmin (for coordinates) a rescue strobe and a smoke grenade in my medical bags to help get the bird to me.

Everything except the O2 bottle fits in two of these.



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US ARMY issue first aid kit. The same one they give all soldiers. It's a good basic starter kit.

. I personally hope it's all money spent that is never needed, but if it is, it's well spent.
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[QUOTE=RoadGlide;7654025]I carry an extensive set up, but I am a NREMT-P with a very understanding Medical Director, and I live in a rather remote part of the country.

Oxygen, AED, Airways, Compact AMBU-Bag, Adjustable C-Collar, Secondary Assessment Equipment and limited pharmacology stuff (Anaphilaxis), some medical tools to include often used tweezers...haha. In this day and age of Medical Helicopters, I plan my kit to keep somebody alive long enough to get a bird to the scene. I also have a pocket Garmin (for coordinates) a rescue strobe and a smoke grenade in my medical bags to help get the bird to me.

Everything except the O2 bottle fits in two of these.


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What no bag of saline or combitube? Holy cow man our ALS engine is set up like your bag except for an IV set up and some cardiac drugs and D50. Nice looking bag with a very nice kit. I've been a fire medic for 29 years. I don't have that much of a kit but I am in a mostly urban/suburban area. Most ambos get there between 2 and 15 minutes.
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I keep mine in one of these.

Its a cool little(big) box. I noticed that every time I have been wheeling we have used it...

I have a little of everything in there.
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What no bag of saline or combitube? Holy cow man our ALS engine is set up like your bag except for an IV set up and some cardiac drugs and D50. Nice looking bag with a very nice kit. I've been a fire medic for 29 years. I don't have that much of a kit but I am in a mostly urban/suburban area. Most ambos get there between 2 and 15 minutes.
grin...yes have a combitube...also at my Director's insistence i have a SPOT Satellite Phone...was pretty economical, $400.00 to buy...$150/year to have communication...



...this is my little Philips AED...just a bit over palm sized...



if you don't have one of these...GET ONE!



i may add one of these to the bags...but would probably be smarter to put it where i can turn it on in case I am the one hurt or sick...like near the driver's seat...
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The Smittybilt bags are nice (so is the Springtail bag) in that once you release the retaining strap (straps with Springtail bag), the bag can be quickly pulled off of the hook/loop backing pad.

I think the best 1st aid kit is one designed specifically for YOUR 1st aid skills. What do you feel comfortable doing? If you are not in the medical/first responder field, are you first aid qualified by the ARC or other recognized agency?

You can build your own first aid kit using items available at Walmart. This way, you can stock your kit with the type, size and quantity that you want, not what some other company has an excess of.

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Thanks for the nice comments on the Springtail Orange 1st aid bag....I had a little bit to do with that

Here is what I feel fits nicely into the large pouch

Large Orange 1st Aid Pouch Supplies
Bandages

(3) 3x18 inch Vasoline impregnated gauze
(2) 3 x 75 inch stretch bandage (kling)
(1) 6 inch Kling bandage
(5) 3 x 8 inch Telfa dressing
(2) 12 x 30 Multi Trauma Dressing
(2) 4x4 gauze sponge 10 packs....Plastic tubs like at work
(2) 2 inch Coban wrap
(3) 8x 10 inch abd pad
(2) 3 inch ace wrap
(5) 2 x 3 inch telfa pad
(5) 4 x 3 inch Telfa pad

Misc

(1) EZ Scrub sponge with nail cleaner (no soap or betadine on scrubber)
(2) pair rubber gloves Large
(1) 1 inch plastic tape
(1) 1 inch fabric tape
(1) trauma shears
(1) Convenience barf bag
(1) travel size bar of soap
(1) Stay Dry ice pack....empty resealable bag



You will notice that there are no medicines or ointments on the list. In my perspective...these items do not do well during the extreme temps that cars endure. It would make sense to keep tylenol, benadryl and a triple antibiotic in the kit as well....but you would probably keep them wrapped separately and toss them every 6 months.


Also, I have explored many types of trauma shears....I really do not like the Leatherman folding ones as I feel that they are too expensive and the features are not really that beneficial. Shears are for using and tossing when they get dull....I like these.


Amazon.com: Prestige Medical Fluoride Scissor, Black, 7 1/2 Inch: Health & Personal Care





Each 1st aid pack should be stocked for the task at hand....I prefer trauma type supplies....you may have other needs.


Adventure medical kits make a nice stocked kit too. I think that this one is the best deal.


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It would make sense to keep tylenol, benadryl and a triple antibiotic in the kit as well....but you would probably keep them wrapped separately and toss them every 6 months.
This is what I do for my kit - I do it every time we have "time change"...just like replacing smoke detector batteries...
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Amazon.com: Dixie EMS Fully Stocked 147 Piece First Responder On Call Kit, Blue: Health & Personal Care

This is the one I bought. The kit is great, the bag itself is ehh. I added a few things such as a snake bite kit, more emergency blankets, Life Straw water filter, an Israeli trauma bandage, waterproof matches, a Swiss Army knife and various Tylenol type stuff. I go camping a bit and plus I like to be prepared. Probably overkill, but that's me....hence the Rubicon.

It fits nicely under the rear seat.
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Oh yeah...the nice thing about Adventure Medical is that the kits are separated into modules. If you use a module...they will sell you that individual unit, so you do not have to buy the entire kit.

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women's product aisle at walmart...big bulky sanitary napkins...damn fine deep wound compress...damn fine...

sterile packaged...made to soak up blood...and keep it from soaking through...

do not forget your ppe/standard precautions...
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We keep a boo-boo kit velcro'd to the back door of the JKU, a trauma bag (plug holes, stop bleeding, open airways, etc) hangs from the right rear headrest in the backseat. These bags are mutually exclusive, what one is for is not the same as the other.
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Great info guys.. Keep it coming!
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Not to hijack but Roadglide you have some nice stuff. I am wondering if this is financed out of pocket or by your employer. That little AED is perfect for compact spaces. You are an EMS force to be reckoned with. I am pretty spoiled with 3 on our ambulance crew. I am sure things get interesting when your tone goes off.
I like the Leatherman but I already have all that in 2 pieces instead of one as my spanner wrench/window punch/seat belt cutter was dept issue as well as the good old trauma shears.
Always good stuff to swap info about this stuff. Back to the show....
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Heck you should just buy a monitor just in case you gotta cardio vert or pace in the field lol! Might as well pick up some nitro, atropine, versed, dopamine, eppy etc.... you can be your own moving ambulance
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I think the best 1st aid kit is one designed specifically for YOUR 1st aid skills. What do you feel comfortable doing? If you are not in the medical/first responder field, are you first aid qualified by the ARC or other recognized agency?

You can build your own first aid kit using items available at Walmart. This way, you can stock your kit with the type, size and quantity that you want, not what some other company has an excess of.
YES! I fully agree. Even if you are a trained and current EMS responder, remember you are only the "tool" for your Medical Director to use as his/her hands and eyes. Venturing off and practicing medicine on your own without a physician can get you in civil, if not criminal legal trouble! If I can't establish contact with my Director or one of his designated alternates...I am little more than a Boy Scout First Aid Merit Badge holder...

I have some Standing Orders, based on my abilities, and based on my Director's comfort level, but both of us discuss those on a pretty regular basis...and actually I have told him in the past, that some of what he had given me...I was uncomfortable with...and asked him to rescind parts.

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Thanks for the nice comments on the Springtail Orange 1st aid bag....I had a little bit to do with that

Also, I have explored many types of trauma shears....I really do not like the Leatherman folding ones as I feel that they are too expensive and the features are not really that beneficial. Shears are for using and tossing when they get dull....I like these.


Amazon.com: Prestige Medical Fluoride Scissor, Black, 7 1/2 Inch: Health & Personal Care





Each 1st aid pack should be stocked for the task at hand....I prefer trauma type supplies....you may have other needs.


Adventure medical kits make a nice stocked kit too. I think that this one is the best deal.


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You did well on the bags! I know the market is limited, but I would LOVE to have one in O2 Green with an external bottle sling and a padded "pocket" for valve protection... I would use the enclosed part of the bag for my pulmonary tools/supplies, and hang the bottle on the outside...

I agree with you about disposable shears, and I do have a set of disposable in each of my bags...often they are contaminated after use, so "away with them".

I was not very specific about why I said to get the Leatherman product.

We as Jeepers, and me as a Biker, often have a knife big or small...hatchets...machetes etc... You know the "macho" cutting tools. The Leatherman is for me a wonderful general purpose cutting tool. That ring cutter on it will actually sever a winch cable. I have used the shears to chew through a battery box on a friend's Harley... and a bead on a motorcycle tire... It seems anytime one of use a knife to do a job better suited to a scissors or a shear, the band-aids get used... I guess as I was thinking about my post in this thread, I remembered how I first found the Raptor...and I truly do like it. It fits nice on the bike too!

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Not to hijack but Roadglide you have some nice stuff. I am wondering if this is financed out of pocket or by your employer. That little AED is perfect for compact spaces. You are an EMS force to be reckoned with. I am pretty spoiled with 3 on our ambulance crew. I am sure things get interesting when your tone goes off.
I like the Leatherman but I already have all that in 2 pieces instead of one as my spanner wrench/window punch/seat belt cutter was dept issue as well as the good old trauma shears.
Always good stuff to swap info about this stuff. Back to the show....
Grin, I am actually a Manager for the largest retailer in the country...insert a "w" word here...

I am an ex-army helicopter pilot and was Ranger trained and Qualified...because I was the glorified "taxi" driver for those nuts. I also flew civilian EMS for a few years on a part-time basis. I was secondary trained in the Army as a 91WF2 and opted to also do the civilian paramedic training...hey it was duty time in class... And there were female civilians...um...ah... Now, by being a civilian "go to" I can keep current, and I can keep a Medical Director...

My 'Jump" bags and contents are solely purchased by me. In my area, there is a "lack" of close EMS once you get outside a town. There are many times when "Agencies" need and use trained and capable civilian help for SAR. It is my "little" contribution to our "way of life" in the boonies... I also travel some very desolate country in the Jeep and on the Harleys. There are times I can drive/ride 100 miles and not see another sign of "human life". Cell phone coverage is spotty in places, and though it has never happened when I really needed it...it can be non-existent!

Sometimes it just gives me an excuse to use 4L...
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Heck you should just buy a monitor just in case you gotta cardio vert or pace in the field lol! Might as well pick up some nitro, atropine, versed, dopamine, eppy etc.... you can be your own moving ambulance
Nah...you notice that I have an AED...I ain't pacing nuthin...and I see an ambulance as a transportation with medical care...iffin I gotta transport...that comes to me on rotors or wheels...I call first, early and often...

I set up to keep someone viable until I can get the wheeled/rotored transport there. also remember I am usually by myself...that in itself limits what I can do...

Notice much of my equipment is geared toward getting help/advise to me/my location.

The only pharmaceutical I carry is an anaphylaxis kit...and I would use it only if NO OTHER OPTION WORKED...and then only with the Medical Director's approval... If they have not been tested for epinephrine allergy...it can compound their problem...and I am not into surgical airways or laryngospasms on a conscious patient while trying to get a tube in them...i carry the combitube because i carry the epinephrine...it's a flippin last ditch effort...

I had an incident where a friend rode his bike through a swarm of bees with a bare chest...shirt flopping in the wind... It was touch and go for a while to keep an airway...he now carries his own...
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Nah...you notice that I have an AED...I ain't pacing nuthin...and I see an ambulance as a transportation with medical care...iffin I gotta transport...that comes to me on rotors or wheels...I call first, early and often...

I set up to keep someone viable until I can get the wheeled/rotored transport there. also remember I am usually by myself...that in itself limits what I can do...

Notice much of my equipment is geared toward getting help/advise to me/my location.

The only pharmaceutical I carry is an anaphylaxis kit...and I would use it only if NO OTHER OPTION WORKED...and then only with the Medical Director's approval... If they have not been tested for epinephrine allergy...it can compound their problem...and I am not into surgical airways or laryngospasms on a conscious patient while trying to get a tube in them...i carry the combitube because i carry the epinephrine...it's a flippin last ditch effort...

I had an incident where a friend rode his bike through a swarm of bees with a bare chest...shirt flopping in the wind... It was touch and go for a while to keep an airway...he now carries his own...
Yea I understand. My last comment was just for fun. But the kit you have out in the field is a pretty nice one. Especially if you know transport is is an hour out. You should look into the king airway. Great piece of equipment. It's a blind throw with a bulb that covers the esophagus and another that covers right above the trachea and you can bag from that. It's super easyyy
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I've got this one strapped to one of my MOLLE side racks: Elite First Aid FA142 Tactical Trauma Kit 1 w MOLLE | eBay

Nice kit for the money.
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Yea I understand. My last comment was just for fun. But the kit you have out in the field is a pretty nice one. Especially if you know transport is is an hour out. You should look into the king airway. Great piece of equipment. It's a blind throw with a bulb that covers the esophagus and another that covers right above the trachea and you can bag from that. It's super easyyy
Thank-you! I like what I see. Tossed the web site at my Medical Director...

If he likes it, we would have to do some training...but it would be worth the speed and ease...
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Just a side note...and because I would love to see this thread grow and prosper. I am always interested in the equipment and the mind set that others have...

From a pilot's perspective...if you ever imagine yourself having to summon a helicopter, coordinates from a GPS is the first pilot aid you can provide. Be accurate and use a read-back to confirm.

At night in particular, and if you have help, set up an LZ 30 meters or so from your scene...use Jeep lights...and maybe something like this...



But use reflection off the ground...the pilot and sometimes crew usually have NVG available, and reflected light is less distracting and easier to work with...in your contact with the flight...ask what they prefer. No pilot is going to take your word for "no wires" or "no towers" or flat terrain" he/she is going to access that for themselves...but it helps to a general area to look. Communicate!

Another aid...both day and night...



When you can see the helicopter...not just hear...that was movie crap...this at the downwind end of a proposed LZ gives the pilot a big bunch of information. Don't deploy in the middle of the only space that can hold the bird...that too was movie crap...I would never want to blow a burning object around with rotor wash...and would delay my landing based on that.

Secure blow around crap proir to the arrival of the helicopter! A plastic Walmart bag pulled into the rotor disc can and will at the very minimum cause a slow up in getting your patient on their way.

Do not run towards the helicopter...let the crew come to you! Give the pilot space...keep all people in front of the helicopter...in the pilots view...and well back!
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...and maybe something like this...

Total sidetrack and A.D.D. moment...- I used to work for ACR (the makers of the FireFly) back in the mid-80's. It was my first electronics tech job after college. Funny to see how their products have evolved. Hmmm...think I still have an old military version of the FireFly around here somewhere...also had a water activated version that attached to a life vest...wonder where those got to...hmmm...

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Really good info and I agree.. Pack based on your abilities..

I am no EMS.. Just looking to pack a basic non trauma first aid setup..

Went ahead and purchased the pouch linked earlier.. Now to decide what basics to put in it bases on the suggestions provided!

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I am going to do an inventory/re-evaluation of mine in the coming weeks...

I will post a comprehensive list of what I have decided to carry...
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Have noticed the following bag seems to be pretty popular on the Interweb..

Smittybilt 769541 - Smittybilt First Aid Storage Bag - Quadratec

Looks pretty functional, but it doesn't come with any supplies in it..

Is anyone using this and If so what do you have in it?

Is there something else out there that you all recommend?

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I have a REI backpacker extended first aid kit
REI Backpacker Extended First-Aid Kit - Free Shipping at REI.com

and last night moved it into the Smittybilt bag, it was a tight fit. I was carrying the REI bag in the lower back storage area and wanted to get it someplace easier to get to. think this will work great.

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