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Old 05-06-2012, 09:30 AM   #1
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First Fault - Tailgate Paint

Has anybody else had this . . .
I noticed a bit of paint had popped off a couple of weld points on the interior of Eugene the Jeep's tailgate.
At first I was going to pick up some touchup paint, but the dealership body shop advised this should be repainted and sent in a claim which was pretty well accepted immediately.
They will tend to the problem when I bring Eugene in for its' first oil change.
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Old 05-06-2012, 09:31 AM   #2
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Do you have any weight back there, bigger
tire?

Looks like the welds are failing ??

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Old 05-06-2012, 04:12 PM   #3
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2X on the welds are failing.
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Welds are failing, you will need a whole new tailgate. If you have an oversize tire on there make sure you remove it before taking it to the dealer.

The temp and duration was set a little high on the spot welder.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:24 PM   #5
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Welds are failing, you will need a whole new tailgate. If you have an oversize tire on there make sure you remove it before taking it to the dealer.

The temp and duration was set a little high on the spot welder.
That first pic it looks like a stock street tire?

That tailgate looks destroyed :eek;
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2X on the welds are failing.
3X on welds failing.
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Has anybody mentioned that it looks like the TG welds are failing--??

Just thought I'd offer that, in case nobody mentioned it yet !

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Has anybody mentioned that it looks like the TG welds are failing--??

Just thought I'd offer that, in case nobody mentioned it yet !

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Common consensus - weld failure

Ok - Thanks,
Looks like the welds have failed.
The tire is stock . . . but I might have backed up into a garage pillar once or twice . . . could a knock on the tire have damaged the tailgate welds so?
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Ok - Thanks,
Looks like the welds have failed.
The tire is stock . . . but I might have backed up into a garage pillar once or twice . . . could a knock on the tire have damaged the tailgate welds so?
I would assume so yes
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Post Funny how those little details sometime change the whole picture, huh?

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Looks like the welds have failed.
The tire is stock . . . but I might have backed up into a garage pillar once or twice . . . could a knock on the tire have damaged the tailgate welds so?


The initial omission of this key detail makes me think that once or twice actually means "repeatedly".

The force of the vehicle was transmitted to the tire, to the carrier which was transmitted to the rear gate that then flexed and stressed the welds.
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Old 05-07-2012, 06:08 AM   #12
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The initial omission of this key detail makes me think that once or twice actually means "repeatedly".

The force of the vehicle was transmitted to the tire, to the carrier which was transmitted to the rear gate that then flexed and stressed the welds.
Lol. So is that a yes?
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Lol. So is that a yes?
Well, i ah, errr actually. yes.

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Ask an engineer-type what time it is and he'll give you instructions to build a clock.
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Well, i ah, errr actually. yes.

Sorry.
Ask an engineer-type what time it is and he'll give you instructions to build a clock.
Hahaha. Just messin with ya. But yes. You will not only get instructions on how to build a clock, but probably references to places to get certain parts and how to manufacture your own.
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The initial omission of this key detail makes me think that once or twice actually means "repeatedly".

The force of the vehicle was transmitted to the tire, to the carrier which was transmitted to the rear gate that then flexed and stressed the welds.
Once or twice - was once, maybe twice . . . really.
But I cannot be the only klutz out here . . . surprised the dealership did not ask me if I might have bumped it. If I did the damage myself I would be surprised if I was the first.
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Old 05-19-2012, 06:28 AM   #16
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Repaint recap

Well my dealership repainted the inside of my tailgate this week.
No question, it was approved by Chrysler the same day that I brought it to their attention.
I am surprised that there was no regard on their part as to how this happened. When I look at the spare tire I can see that the black mount on the left side is slightly deformed, confirming that the tire had taken a knock. I would have thought that the body shop would have noticed this and pointed it out.
Alls well that ends well in the end.
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Well my dealership repainted the inside of my tailgate this week.
No question, it was approved by Chrysler the same day that I brought it to their attention.
I am surprised that there was no regard on their part as to how this happened. When I look at the spare tire I can see that the black mount on the left side is slightly deformed, confirming that the tire had taken a knock. I would have thought that the body shop would have noticed this and pointed it out.
Alls well that ends well in the end.
They got paid.... All that matters I guess
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You know, I hate to say this but,,,,,,, those spot welds are either broken or nearly broken and the strength of the gate is compromised. If the body shop simply used filler over those spot welds you stand a very good chance of having issues with the gate in the future. Your spare tire puts a pretty good flexing load on the gate and it will be worse if you ever add a heavier spare tire. To fix those spot welds would be a bit of a trick given the thin metal.

If you were to install a new rear bumper with a swing out tire carrier you will likely never have an issue. Or you may be fortunate and never have an issue regardless of what tire is on the gate. Just keep an eye on the repaired area. If they simply smoothed over the spot welds with body filler and painted it you could have enough flex to pop the filler right off the gate.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:18 AM   #19
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Thank you for the reality check.
I have seen people using the spare to mount bicycles.
Myself I will using the tire to mount my canoe carrier.
At least you have opened my eyes to the risks involved.
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