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Old 05-24-2011, 06:27 PM   #1
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First Mod?

I'm trying to decide which mod I should do first. Here is a list of different ones, but I would only be able to do one.

33" Duratracs w/ 16x9 wheels

2.5" Teraflex or 2" OME

New gears (4.10's?)

Bushwhacker flat fenders

Front and rear bumpers

Winch on stock bumper

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:38 PM   #2
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What's the end goal? Looks or function? What function, mud hill climbing or rock crawling? Is it an Islander that you are starting with?

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Old 05-24-2011, 06:41 PM   #4
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If your going through mudholes I would strip the interior out before you destroy it and invest in a good set of seatcovers.
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I did Lights and bumper first and it looked real goofy for a long time and then I did my lift and had to go back to school so I had the stock tires on with the lights bumper and lift and it looked even worse. When I got home I got my tires put on and now it finally looks like a jeep.
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What's the end goal? Looks or function? What function, mud hill climbing or rock crawling? Is it an Islander that you are starting with?
I want it to be as functional as possible but have good looks at the same time...I will be doing some light to moderate mud, and medium level trail riding. No, i have a Mountain edition (same stock traits tho)

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I did Lights and bumper first and it looked real goofy for a long time and then I did my lift and had to go back to school so I had the stock tires on with the lights bumper and lift and it looked even worse. When I got home I got my tires put on and now it finally looks like a jeep.
I dont do a lot of night wheeling, so lights arent really an issue. Ive seen a stock JK with a 2.5" and i dont think it will be that bad since i have bigger 32" tires and they are MT's.
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Old 05-24-2011, 07:44 PM   #8
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I did wheels.tires followed by bumper/winch and now I'm doining lift...my only suggestion is do lift before bumper/winch cause it starts sagging up front due to weight....
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If you go with flat flares you can bypass the lift and keep your COG low. Don't bother with the 4.10s, 4.56 would be ideal if you go to 33s and don't plan on going bigger.
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I did wheels.tires followed by bumper/winch and now I'm doining lift...my only suggestion is do lift before bumper/winch cause it starts sagging up front due to weight....
I was just going to add a 8000 lb winch and a mount to the factory bumper, would it sag a lot even without a new bumper?

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If you go with flat flares you can bypass the lift and keep your COG low. Don't bother with the 4.10s, 4.56 would be ideal if you go to 33s and don't plan on going bigger.
For my first mod, i would prefer something that is more functional than flares i would eventually get them once i get a lift and 33's. Alright, i plan on sticking with 33's for a long time so ill prob do gears after tires.

Which should come first, 2.5 lift or tires?
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I'd do the lift first. It'll look fine with stock tires and will clear the way for your other stuff. Though I do agree with Zombie that, for 33s, it's really a lift OR flat flares--both together would show a little too much wheel well IMO.

I just researched the gearing qurstion and can tell you that 4.10s are not practical aftermarket. You'll pay twice as much for not a lot of improvement. Aside from that, you have an automatic transmission if I recall correctly, so 4.10s are still numerically too low for 33s. Heck you've already got 3.73s. You'd bump to 4.56s or 4.88s. Even 5.13s would be manageable.

Have you considered a superchip or ProCal? If I had an auto, I'd do that before even the lift.
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Evap skid, rocker protection, oil pan/trans protection would be my vote.
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I doubt the winch would cause thyat much sag, but like MTH said I'd still go with the lift first also once u increase your tire size you will need something like an AEV Pro Cal Mod....The best thing I like about my Jeep and this forum is you can do what ever you want to satisfy your taste and there is always something else to add. No matter what way you go you'll be happy and will have fun.
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Yeah I agree about the lift but I know I would find a lot of use for a winch if I were to do that instead. Yeah I think it would look stupid with both the flat flares and lift, I wasn't planning on doing that.

Also agree on the gears. Right after I posted, I went and did some more research and found that 4.56 would be a good median for 33's, but I may consider 4.88. Correct, I do have an auto with 3.73...going up only .43 in gears just doesn't make sense...too much $ for too little benefit.

Yeah, I've looked at a superchip but for some reason I'm just not confident in them even though I've heard they are safe and can be uninstalled if ever needed.

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I'd do the lift first. It'll look fine with stock tires and will clear the way for your other stuff. Though I do agree with Zombie that, for 33s, it's really a lift OR flat flares--both together would show a little too much wheel well IMO.

I just researched the gearing qurstion and can tell you that 4.10s are not practical aftermarket. You'll pay twice as much for not a lot of improvement. Aside from that, you have an automatic transmission if I recall correctly, so 4.10s are still numerically too low for 33s. Heck you've already got 3.73s. You'd bump to 4.56s or 4.88s. Even 5.13s would be manageable.

Have you considered a superchip or ProCal? If I had an auto, I'd do that before even the lift.
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The philosophy for my jeep is buying armor first. New tranny and oil pan skids, rockers, etc. Sure, you can have the lift, tires, and the ability to do more difficult trails but if you don't have the protection underneath, lift and tires didn't do any good when your oil is spraying out of the bottom oil pan. That's just how I've been doing my jeep though.
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I agree with Wesley and 4jeepn, I've got the Rescue Green Mountain and I started with skids (oil pan and evap can) I figured it was going to be awhile before I lifted it and I ride trails as much as possible so that seemed like a necessary first.

Next was lights for the windshield and bumper and a few interior mods and some random dress-up stuff.

Then was the winch setup. If it's lifted or stock you can still get stuck or your buddy behind you in his ranger is gonna need some help so a winch is always good to have and I wanted to knock that out early.

After that was a leveling kit to level out the rake and take the sag out from the added weight from the winch setup.

Once I get my ass back to the states the real lift, tires, gearing....basically the good sh!t will be getting added.

but, it's all up to you and what you want...I would really suggest that before you start buying stuff (like I kind of did at first so now I have some useless light brackets...) take a step back and figure out what you want a little further down the road and build it stage by stage.
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Evidentaly you have a 2dr, mine is a four door and any diff ratio in the 4's is worthless-


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Yeah I agree about the lift but I know I would find a lot of use for a winch if I were to do that instead. Yeah I think it would look stupid with both the flat flares and lift, I wasn't planning on doing that.

Also agree on the gears. Right after I posted, I went and did some more research and found that 4.56 would be a good median for 33's, but I may consider 4.88. Correct, I do have an auto with 3.73...going up only .43 in gears just doesn't make sense...too much $ for too little benefit.

Yeah, I've looked at a superchip but for some reason I'm just not confident in them even though I've heard they are safe and can be uninstalled if ever needed.
My 5.38s, make my JKU a whole new 4x4-I have read that even 2drs, JKs/auto- have been generally content with 5.13s, especially if it's not a Rubi-

Course if it's a DD, thats a big consideration !!

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I dont do a lot of wheeling where there are protruding rocks that could damage key components...but they keep seeing like more and more of a good starting point.

I know that i would find very good use for the winch because i wheel a good bit, and in NC there are some pretty good places to get stuck and other people to get stuck, so i know i would get my moneys worth very quickly.

If i got a winch, would it sag a significant bit? or should i buy 3/4" spacers for the front? It seems like if i sat on it, it would sag more

The lift is seeming less likely because once i intall it, i would keep the stock wheels/tires so i would need 2.5" spacers to make it less roll prone...another $200.

I know for gears i would upgrade when i went to 33's, so it wouldn't make sense to do it now with no other mods. I keep hearing so many recommendations for gears...first 4.10, then 4.56, then 4.88, now 5.13 haha. I think im going to do that once i upgrade tires/wheels.

Here is about an average cost for each category:

Skids: $250-300
Lift: $500-600
Winch: $450-550
Gears: $400-450
This is just the price of parts alone. I plan to do it myself.

This is the order im considering...?
-Skids/winch (cant decide which one first )
-Tires/wheels/gears
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Understandable, but you better triple the gears cost--


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I dont do a lot of wheeling where there are protruding rocks that could damage key components...but they keep seeing like more and more of a good starting point.

I know that i would find very good use for the winch because i wheel a good bit, and in NC there are some pretty good places to get stuck and other people to get stuck, so i know i would get my moneys worth very quickly.

If i got a winch, would it sag a significant bit? or should i buy 3/4" spacers for the front? It seems like if i sat on it, it would sag more

The lift is seeming less likely because once i intall it, i would keep the stock wheels/tires so i would need 2.5" spacers to make it less roll prone...another $200.

I know for gears i would upgrade when i went to 33's, so it wouldn't make sense to do it now with no other mods. I keep hearing so many recommendations for gears...first 4.10, then 4.56, then 4.88, now 5.13 haha. I think im going to do that once i upgrade tires/wheels.

Here is about an average cost for each category:

Skids: $250-300
Lift: $500-600
Winch: $450-550
Gears: $400-450
This is just the price of parts alone. I plan to do it myself.

This is the order im considering...?
-Skids/winch (cant decide which one first )
-Tires/wheels/gears
-Lift
Unless you're an accomplished Diff/axle/suspension expert-those should be done by a reputable /Auto race shop that has a good record and warranty !!

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Understandable, but you better triple the gears cost--




Unless you're an accomplished Diff/axle/suspension expert-those should be done by a reputable /Auto race shop that has a good record and warranty !!

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Hahaha I knew someone would point that out. Thats the only thing that i wouldn't actually do myself. Triple the gear cost...man i hate labor fees
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