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Old 04-07-2010, 01:05 PM   #1
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First oil change?

Just wondering when I should do my first oil change on my 2010 Unlimited. It only has 500 miles on it now. I'm going to be using Mobil 1 fully synthetic. It's been alot of years since I bought a new car...I seem to remember years ago that you weren't supposed to leave the break-in oil in for too long.

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That changed a long time ago (about the break-in oil). If you read the maintenance section, no need to change the oil early. I changed mine at 6000 miles and every 6000 miles since. I use dinosaur oil. I currently have 30,000 miles on the odometer. I expect my engine to go 250,000 miles. If it only goes 200,000 miles and then needs work, I will figure that I have gotten my money's worth out of it. I don't think that synthetic would vary that distance by enough to make it worth spending the extra on it. This is in keeping with the advice from click and clack the tappet brothers on NPR. I agree with them on this one. They drove a car without changing the oil...just the oil filter for some ungodly distance expecting the thing to fail well before it did. Synthetic and fancy oils are over-rated. Now...for the science of it...maybe Hilldweller will make a comment or two.

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Old 04-07-2010, 02:24 PM   #3
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To many studies and positive info, about the benificial use of synthetic oils and GOOD filters

I changed my oil at 3000 miles , to Mobile one and K & N filter/w 1" hex base

When you get right downtoit--I don't really matter !!

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The oil boys from a quite a few companies train in my labs and this is what I've gotten from them.

Dino oil works great most of the time.
The times it doesn't work great usually aren't the oils' fault ---- heat and contaminants are to blame.
Since autotrans JKs are made by Chrysler, I use Mobil-1 every 6000 miles.

You can easily go 15,000 miles between changes with some engines. I have a friend that put over 200,000 miles on his motorcycle by using Shell Rotella T 15w-40 (hydrocracked group III "synthetic") every 15,000 miles or so.

The tightness of the engine, temperature regulation, and quality of air that feeds it are what usually matters these days.


My favorite dino oil is Chevron, btw. Those boys have their acts together.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:35 PM   #5
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only one thing to add: put your oil catch pan about 10' further back than you think it should be. when the oil comes out it shoots far. or use some cardboard as a spash shield.
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Old 04-07-2010, 02:52 PM   #6
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My first oil change is free. I'm guessing i'm gonna go with Mobil 1 fully synthetic?
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Yea it's free using their oil, but if you want Mobile one---


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My first oil change is free. I'm guessing i'm gonna go with Mobil 1 fully synthetic?
You gotta bringit, unless it's a really KEWL dealer !!

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Since the dealer gave me a free oil change I had it done at 1,500. I believe the first one is important in a new engine. I plan to change it every 3,000 thereafter, but the next one I'll do at 3,000 and then go with the oil change every 3,000 with a tire rotation at 6,000 (every other oil change). I have used conventional oil since I owned cars/jeeps and using this method I have gone many thousands of miles on numerous engines without one failure and none of them burned oil. My 4.2 YJ only leaks a few drops here and there. This method has always worked for me so it's the old if it ain't broke. Call me old school but if you leave synthetic in for longer miles, even though you're protected, aren't there still contaminants in there with the filter working overtime? Hey, I might be completely off base but too late to change now. The only vehicle I have to use full synthetic is my wife's Mini Cooper (don't want to void the warranty). I still have a problem with it telling me it doesn't need an oil change for 15,000 miles based on whatever logarithem it uses. For now I'll listen to it. Maybe Hilldweller can convince me to change.
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With 6 quarts of oil in it, I'm sticking with every 6000. Unless I put the thing through hell in 4 low. That is a different story.
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I'll trust the computer to say when (about 5k), keep a log book and my oil & filter receipts
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Yea it's free using their oil, but if you want Mobile one---




You gotta bringit, unless it's a really KEWL dealer !!

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I wonder what kind of oil they use when they change it. Before my Jeep I had a Supercharged and fully built Civic Si on 260 something odd whp. I used Royal Purple Fully synthetic and changed the oil every 4500, 5000 miles. The usual people that still change their oil every 3,000 miles are the old timers that don't like getting with/trust new technology. If the dealer says this motor is made to go 6,000 miles on an oil change, then every 6000 miles it'll get fresh Mobil 1 fully synthetic
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My dealer offers a lifetime oil change option for around $300. I love it and abuse the heck outta it. I want my oil changed at 1000 miles, I get it changed at 1000 miles. I want to wait until 5000 miles, they don’t care.

On my wife’s Grand Cherokee, we’ve surpassed the break even point in 14 months. I’ve had my Wrangler since early January and I’ve had 4 oil changes already. For me, it’s a worthwhile purchase.

I do my oil changes around 3000 miles unless I do something unusual. When I go to Chicago, I have the oil changed before and after the trip and sometimes that means having the oil changed as little as 6 days apart.

My daughter just brought home a JK today and she bought the lifetime oil too. We now have 4 Jeeps in the family.
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My dealer offers a lifetime oil change option for around $300. I love it and abuse the heck outta it. I want my oil changed at 1000 miles, I get it changed at 1000 miles. I want to wait until 5000 miles, they donít care.

On my wifeís Grand Cherokee, weíve surpassed the break even point in 14 months. Iíve had my Wrangler since early January and Iíve had 4 oil changes already. For me, itís a worthwhile purchase.

I do my oil changes around 3000 miles unless I do something unusual. When I go to Chicago, I have the oil changed before and after the trip and sometimes that means having the oil changed as little as 6 days apart.

My daughter just brought home a JK today and she bought the lifetime oil too. We now have 4 Jeeps in the family.
Did you have to buy that at the time you bought your vehicle, or can you purchase it after you've bought the vehicle?
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I did it at the time of purchase. You can check with your dealer and see if they’ll seel you that after.
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The only vehicle I have to use full synthetic is my wife's Mini Cooper (don't want to void the warranty). I still have a problem with it telling me it doesn't need an oil change for 15,000 miles based on whatever logarithem it uses. For now I'll listen to it. Maybe Hilldweller can convince me to change.
I had an R53 and two R56s; just one R56 now. It asks for oil changes at about 24,000 mile intervals ---- but I change it at 8,000 miles.

I managed a fleet of Crown Vics years ago, both 5L and 4.6L. Those cars routinely made it past 400,000 miles before being retired. And they all lived on cheap dino changed at 6000-8000 miles.
As an experiment we ran some cars at 12,000 mile change intervals; there was no difference in longevity.

Piece of mind has no price tag; you have to do what makes you feel good.
But if you're really curious about your oil, send samples for analysis to a good lab. It's really eye opening.
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Back in Chicago, I’d have all my oils tested at a lab. They’d tell me to lengthen or shorten my change intervals as needed. They’d tell me what major services to do and when to do them. It cost about $8 back then and it was money well spent. When I had to change the bearings on one of my Macks, it amazed me that they were able to guestimate the bearing thickness and how thin it was. Thin, but not failed.

Always used dino stuff and always had great service out of it.

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