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Old 05-13-2013, 11:34 PM   #91
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I can end this debate, my Corvette uses only Mobile 1 and a Mobile 1 filter. It comes from the factory like that. Why? Because all elite car people know that the best racing engines and high performance motors use synthetic. That's what 60+ years of making the fastest American sports car teaches you.

Although I'm not saying regular oil changes with regular oil won't make your engine last a really long time, but I beat the crap out of my motors and it's Mobile 1 only for me. Doing mine at 500 for the record.
it is a bummer that Mobil 1 does not meet Chrysler specs. I emailed Mobil 1 and they confirmed that at this time they do not meet the specs required by Chrysler.

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it is a bummer that Mobil 1 does not meet Chrysler specs. I emailed Mobil 1 and they confirmed that at this time they do not meet the specs required by Chrysler.
Not a bummer for me; I don't use Mobil 1.

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WHAT THE SAM HELL IS MOBILE I? Hum, maybe it's a new Mobile Cellphone provider. I wonder if they are offering better rates than Verizon. I will have to see if I can save some money on my cell phone bill.

Now let's get back to real oil. If I was to use synthetics, which I am not, it would only be Pennzoil Platinum. SilverSport uses it so it has to be the best!!
Sorry about that, because you missed out on all of that popcorn.............
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I can end this debate, my Corvette uses only Mobile 1 and a Mobile 1 filter. It comes from the factory like that. Why? Because all elite car people know that the best racing engines and high performance motors use synthetic. That's what 60+ years of making the fastest American sports car teaches you.

Although I'm not saying regular oil changes with regular oil won't make your engine last a really long time, but I beat the crap out of my motors and it's Mobile 1 only for me. Doing mine at 500 for the record.
WOW, you lucky guy and or girl to have a Corvette. That was always one of my dreams, Oh well at age 79 it would be just to fast for me. At least if I wrecked it, I would have a Mobile 1 cell phone to call for help......
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SilverSport told me he does not use Pennzoil Platinum.
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SilverSport told me he does not use Pennzoil Platinum.
Here I go again, just getting all mixed up, Oh wait it's coming to me, yes, yes your that Amsoil guy.
Maybe the reason that I get so mixed up on this subject is that these synthetic things just aren't that important to me. At age 79, there are more important things like popcorn and Budweiser. In fact I think it's time for a can' or two, or more..............and of coarse some....
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and of coarse some....
I don't know if I'd like coarse popcorn. A little crunchy, maybe, but not coarse.
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I don't know if I'd like coarse popcorn. A little crunchy, maybe, but not coarse.
When you fail third grade and then never go back to school, well, that's what happens!
Let that be a lesson to all of you young wiper snappers out there, stay in school so you don't wind up a Moron and a old Coot like Old Dogger.
Living on the street when it's 105 degrees outside, just isn't any fun. In fact it really BURN'S me in more ways than one. Hum, yes it hurt's.....
As for the popcorn, well as long as I have the Budweiser to go along with it, then I really don't care how it is prepared!
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Engines with a cartridge style oil filter housing have a spring loaded drain valve in the bottom of the housing that holds the oil in the filter housing when the engine is not running. As soon as you remove the oil filter housing cap the filter comes up and the drain opens so the old oil will drain back into the oil pan. The reason manufactures recommend removing the cap first is to let the oil drain out of the filter housing. It has no affect on how the oil drains out of the pan.
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Craig, what the heck? We're in the middle of a complete digression here and you're trying to bring things back on topic? Something of a party foul I'd say.

You're denying me to the opportunity to tell the Corvette guy that he ought to be driving a 911 GT2 or GT-R, for one thing. I cannot hound OD about his choice of beer, cellular telephone provider, grammar, etc. either.

Priorities, man!
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Engines with a cartridge style oil filter housing have a spring loaded drain valve in the bottom of the housing that holds the oil in the filter housing when the engine is not running. As soon as you remove the oil filter housing cap the filter comes up and the drain opens so the old oil will drain back into the oil pan. The reason manufactures recommend removing the cap first is to let the oil drain out of the filter housing. It has no affect on how the oil drains out of the pan.
This myth has already been debunked. The canister on the Pentastar has an inlet and outlet. When the engine is off and oil pressure reaches 0, the oil drains back out of the canister.


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I will have to take a look when I do my first oil Change. I have done oil changes on tons of vehicles with cartridge style oil filters and have never seen one that goes dry on every start up. I could be wrong but with the majority of engine wear coming from start up I would find it hard to believe the filter housing drains when shut off.
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I will have to take a look when I do my first oil Change. I have done oil changes on tons of vehicles with cartridge style oil filters and have never seen one that goes dry on every start up. I could be wrong but with the majority of engine wear coming from start up I would find it hard to believe the filter housing drains when shut off.
With standard filter vehicles, I was always in the habit of putting a few ounces of oil in the filter before I put it on (as much as the filter would hold without spilling). This was a big deal on Ford 302's... My LX 5.0 had a cringeworthy knocking sound until the filter filled up. Getting a little in the filter ahead of time helped a lot!

For the same old school reason, I actually poured a little oil into the 3.6 filter housing and it sounded like it just drained right down to the pan... Thing is, I don't remember if I already had the filter in. I'm thinking I did not.
Due to the filter housing location, it doesn't seem like it'd do much good anyhow.
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With standard filter vehicles, I was always in the habit of putting a few ounces of oil in the filter before I put it on (as much as the filter would hold without spilling). This was a big deal on Ford 302's... My LX 5.0 had a cringeworthy knocking sound until the filter filled up. Getting a little in the filter ahead of time helped a lot!

For the same old school reason, I actually poured a little oil into the 3.6 filter housing and it sounded like it just drained right down to the pan... Thing is, I don't remember if I already had the filter in. I'm thinking I did not.
Due to the filter housing location, it doesn't seem like it'd do much good anyhow.

not sure how you would do that without making a mess. Nothing going to hold the oil the filter housing on the 3.6L
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With standard filter vehicles, I was always in the habit of putting a few ounces of oil in the filter before I put it on (as much as the filter would hold without spilling). This was a big deal on Ford 302's... My LX 5.0 had a cringeworthy knocking sound until the filter filled up. Getting a little in the filter ahead of time helped a lot!

For the same old school reason, I actually poured a little oil into the 3.6 filter housing and it sounded like it just drained right down to the pan... Thing is, I don't remember if I already had the filter in. I'm thinking I did not.
Due to the filter housing location, it doesn't seem like it'd do much good anyhow.
I also have pre-lubed all of my oil filters, that have been mounted vertically! But with the 3.6, them days are over..........
It doesn't appear that this engine has any kind of a ADBV, SAD....
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So I learned something new last night. I took apart a oil filter housing on a 3.6l and sure enough there is nothing to hold oil on there when the engine is off.
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This myth has already been debunked. The canister on the Pentastar has an inlet and outlet. When the engine is off and oil pressure reaches 0, the oil drains back out of the canister.


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Resurrecting the thread, I'm doing the first oil change on my 2014 JKUR at 700 miles. And installing a "No Spill" drain plug. I'll take pics and post them when I'm done.
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The oil that came out smelled REAL bad!! hard to explain, but even a neighbor came over that has maintained a number of vintage cars and does his own mechanic repairs for many years made a comment, he smelled it from 50 years away!! The NoSpill quick drain was the right diameter but the wrong pitch thread, so the stock plug went back in. Over all, in approx. 50 years of changing oil in all kinds of rigs, including aircraft, this was by FAR the easiest!!! 5w30 Castrol Edge went in, along with a NAPA Gold (wix) filter. So far a conservative fuel economy improvement of at LEAST 20%, ya, no kidding!! Sounds better and is smoother too, noticeably by not a small amount! I don't think it has anything to do with the Castrol per se, but some good CLEAN synthetic oil..
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I need to get mine done. Just over 7000miles now, which is about enough, although I have a slightly more european approach to oil changes.

Although current sat on 25.2mpg for this tank so not doing too badly.
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I need to get mine done. Just over 7000miles now, which is about enough, although I have a slightly more european approach to oil changes.

Although current sat on 25.2mpg for this tank so not doing too badly.
25.2?? I officially hate you, LOL
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Its been a very steady week!

Remember I have to put up with no-one waving as I have a standard looking jkus.
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Today was my first oil change for my 2015 JKU ..

@ 2100 miles

no metal in filter ...no metal on magnetic plug...oil was fairly dark..

easy peessy

Will be using Pennzoil Platinum 20w50 Full synthetic from now on.

As required by Jeep/Chrysler to maintain engine warranty...Oil must meet Chrysler MS-6395

Plus Pennzoil has their own 300K engine warranty

Pennzoil Lubrication Limited Warranty - Pennzoil

Have been using Mobile 1 in other cars ...but Mobile 1 is not Chrysler MS-6395 certified

Also using Fram extra guard oil filter

Jeep manual says not to exceed 10k between oil changes...
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Today was my first oil change for my 2015 JKU ..

@ 2100 miles

no metal in filter ...no metal on magnetic plug...oil was fairly dark..

easy peessy

Will be using Pennzoil Platinum 20w50 Full synthetic from now on.

As required by Jeep/Chrysler to maintain engine warranty...Oil must meet Chrysler MS-6395

Plus Pennzoil has their own 300K engine warranty

Pennzoil Lubrication Limited Warranty - Pennzoil

Have been using Mobile 1 in other cars ...but Mobile 1 is not Chrysler MS-6395 certified

Also using Fram extra guard oil filter

Jeep manual says not to exceed 10k between oil changes...
Your oil choice is good but if shop around for another filter. Fram is one of the lowest rated filters. Go to Bob is the oil guy site.
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Your oil choice is good but if shop around for another filter. Fram is one of the lowest rated filters. Go to Bob is the oil guy site.
X2 ^. I quit using Fram quite a few years ago. Either OEM or Wix for me now.

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Today was my first oil change for my 2015 JKU .. @ 2100 miles no metal in filter ...no metal on magnetic plug...oil was fairly dark.. easy peessy Will be using Pennzoil Platinum 20w50 Full synthetic from now on. As required by Jeep/Chrysler to maintain engine warranty...Oil must meet Chrysler MS-6395 Plus Pennzoil has their own 300K engine warranty Pennzoil Lubrication Limited Warranty - Pennzoil Have been using Mobile 1 in other cars ...but Mobile 1 is not Chrysler MS-6395 certified Also using Fram extra guard oil filter Jeep manual says not to exceed 10k between oil changes...
20w-50!! That's some thick stuff right there...you racing the jeep haha.
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20w-50!! That's some thick stuff right there...you racing the jeep haha.
That's what I was thinking, too. WAY too thick for most applications. I hope he doesn't live in a cold climate in the winter.

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