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Old 10-15-2012, 06:26 PM   #31
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Was it the rear top corners of the doors? Reason i ask is b/c i just found a new, pretty bad leak today. It leaked while driving and poured in when i slowed to a stop.

If your prob is the same, please let me know what the dealer does.

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Discovered a leak today located at the top corners of both front doors. Water was coming in where the pad/seals touch the door rubbbers. Took it to the dealer and i hope they fix it. Brand new!! 1 month old!

Also is it normal for water to build up on the bottom frame area for the doors.. Where u can put door sills?

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i have not used those knobs for months with no issues at all. i just put them back in for the winter. i just snug them up slightly but dont really tighten them up much.
Same here, took the knobs off after the second time having the top off. No leaks or rattles.

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Yea. At the top corner. It appeared that water was saturating and leaking in from the rubberish type padding thats between the edge of the fredome top. I point it out to the service rep today. I will be getting it bak next week. I just hope that they really address the issue because y work order states ""cust complains of leak on roof above driver"(hopefully me pinpointing the area will be noted. i may have to call back to confirm).

I also did my own water test with a hose. And confirmed it was coming from the corner....

Dealer was asked if this is a common thing. Service rep says no and i think hea lying lol!!

I will post the result and status as it comes. I feel bad that this is happening since its a new car...i love my jeep but didnt expect this with its "tried and true" reputation.
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Was it the rear top corners of the doors? Reason i ask is b/c i just found a new, pretty bad leak today. It leaked while driving and poured in when i slowed to a stop.

If your prob is the same, please let me know what the dealer does.

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Old 10-16-2012, 06:56 AM   #34
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Taking my Jeep in this friday for service to replace the door power connection which was frayed (not fried) by the salesman when he was trying to "demonstrate" how it disconnects. Noticed rain coming in pretty bad yesterday so having that looked at now as well.

For anyone who took their Jeep in, did they actually help you at all, or should I just expect them to say they "tried duplicating the issue but found nothing"?
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:11 AM   #35
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I took my jeep in an they replaced the driver an passenger side weather strips an seals an realligned my driver side door. Hasn't leaked since! Knock on wood
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I hear you. I dont take the "its a Jeep thing" as "ok". My 2010 Sahara did it once and never did it again, but as i think back now, it did it prior to me removing the top..which i havent done on this one yet.


Maybe i'll go try that today.

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Yea. At the top corner. It appeared that water was saturating and leaking in from the rubberish type padding thats between the edge of the fredome top. I point it out to the service rep today. I will be getting it bak next week. I just hope that they really address the issue because y work order states ""cust complains of leak on roof above driver"(hopefully me pinpointing the area will be noted. i may have to call back to confirm).

I also did my own water test with a hose. And confirmed it was coming from the corner....

Dealer was asked if this is a common thing. Service rep says no and i think hea lying lol!!

I will post the result and status as it comes. I feel bad that this is happening since its a new car...i love my jeep but didnt expect this with its "tried and true" reputation.
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Old 10-16-2012, 09:58 AM   #37
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discoloration on new hardtop window

picking up '13 sport S tomorrow. noticed after test drive a blemish about 1&1/2" X 3/4" on lower corner of passenger side hardtop window. can't tell if it is just a bad application of tint or what... told sales mgr. he said he would notify service dept. , i am concerned maybe gasket or glass itself may have issue. anybody ever have this ? i am buying my 2nd wrangler after owning 1 from 03-07 & new to this forum. appreciate any feedback
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:08 AM   #38
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I hear you. I dont take the "its a Jeep thing" as "ok". My 2010 Sahara did it once and never did it again, but as i think back now, it did it prior to me removing the top..which i havent done on this one yet.


Maybe i'll go try that today.

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Its not a "Jeep Thing" its a "Modular Removable Top" thing. Which means there are several components to the hard top that have to all line up in order to work properly. Things might not have been aligned properly in the factory or at the dealership if they were removed for some reason. Either way, I would take the panels off, inspect all the insulation points, clean them with a rubber protectant and reposition the panels according to jeep's instructions keeping in mind not to over-tighten the rear knobs.
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:58 PM   #39
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You guys take your Jeeps out in the rain??
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:46 PM   #40
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I just got my 2013 2 door, soft top, this happened to me the first rain too. I didn't really do anything about it, I thightened the door surrounds and it never did it again.
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Old 10-16-2012, 11:16 PM   #41
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Mine leaks on the front passenger side corner by the pillar when I pressure wash it, not when it rains (and I have driven through a monsoon without a drop).
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:40 AM   #42
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I just joined WF today.

I have a 2010 Islander package two door that has a case started on it for water leaking on the passager front floor. I have been reading all the posting about others having the same problem. I found the leak when I had 11420 miles on it and still in the first year of warranty.

It was just in the dealer for a week on the fifth try to fix it. The dealer said they followed the lastest 25 page bulletin from Chrysler. Did not work.

Is there anyone who has been able to get Chrsyler to buy back or got help to get into a new jeep have any suggustions?
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I just joined WF today.

I have a 2010 Islander package two door that has a case started on it for water leaking on the passager front floor. I have been reading all the posting about others having the same problem. I found the leak when I had 11420 miles on it and still in the first year of warranty.

It was just in the dealer for a week on the fifth try to fix it. The dealer said they followed the lastest 25 page bulletin from Chrysler. Did not work.

Is there anyone who has been able to get Chrsyler to buy back or got help to get into a new jeep have any suggustions?
I have never had to do it thank goodness, but the question isn't about getting chrysler to agree to buy it back, its about the law. Your states lemon law is stated clearly (look it up) regarding its parameters, and if you meet those requirements, then they have to, by law, buy back the vehicle. If you are outside of those parameters, then you will have to beg.. simple as that.

This is my first jeep, but I don't think a leak coming from the floor falls under the "its a jeep" category... that is a defect. I had a leak in my Jeep Liberty coming from the floor (turned out to be a seal under the window somewhere) and they replaced all the seals, entire carpet for the front, and some other stuff... no questions asked.
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Old 10-17-2012, 11:03 AM   #44
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The Chrysler Executive Rep is supposed to be calling me back on the next step of the process today. The dealer has already replaced the hard top seals, windshield rail seal, door seals, added new foam seal for the door and top; replace the carpet on the passage side. The last visit the checked the fender attachments and body seams and it still leaks. The Rep is waiting for more information from the Technical group and wants the dealer to call the Star group (??) to detail what they have done to the vehicle to this point.
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Discovered a leak today located at the top corners of both front doors. Water was coming in where the pad/seals touch the door rubbbers. Took it to the dealer and i hope they fix it. Brand new!! 1 month old!

Also is it normal for water to build up on the bottom frame area for the doors.. Where u can put door sills?
yes, this is the source of my leak and addressed in the may-12 TSB. water builds up here and runs over the sill into the front footwells. had dealer do the TSB, an no water so far. fingers crossed. i posted the TSB in here in its own forum.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:44 AM   #46
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The Chrysler Executive Rep is supposed to be calling me back on the next step of the process today. The dealer has already replaced the hard top seals, windshield rail seal, door seals, added new foam seal for the door and top; replace the carpet on the passage side. The last visit the checked the fender attachments and body seams and it still leaks. The Rep is waiting for more information from the Technical group and wants the dealer to call the Star group (??) to detail what they have done to the vehicle to this point.
Do you guys have a lemeb law like california? In cali, after 3 tries to repair a problem, u get a new car
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:54 PM   #47
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Do you guys have a lemeb law like california? In cali, after 3 tries to repair a problem, u get a new car
Damn that must be nice! Lol
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Old 10-19-2012, 02:45 PM   #48
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Just picked my Jeep up from service to repair the leaking. The front passenger side leak was caused by bad weather stripping which is being replaced. The rear driver side leak was caused by bad (or lack thereof) sealant around the the center of the hardtop window. That repair had to be "okayed" by Chrysler- which it was- and now has to be resealed.
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:10 PM   #49
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Its not a "Jeep Thing" its a "Modular Removable Top" thing. Which means there are several components to the hard top that have to all line up in order to work properly. Things might not have been aligned properly in the factory or at the dealership if they were removed for some reason. Either way, I would take the panels off, inspect all the insulation points, clean them with a rubber protectant and reposition the panels according to jeep's instructions keeping in mind not to over-tighten the rear knobs.
We can call it what we want but, Jeep is the one that allows it to happen via either poor engineering or poor quality control.

I take mine in on Thurs of this week. My local Jeep dealer has a "leak specialist" that comes in every Thurs.

I'll post up what they do.
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My local Jeep dealer has a "leak specialist" that comes in every Thurs.
I don't drink beer on Thursdays. Wondered who worked that day.
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Old 10-23-2012, 03:55 PM   #51
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I test drove a 12 2dr Wrangler last week just after it rained. Got in, closed the door and water started dripping on the dash in the center by the rear view. Not very impressed. The salesman was like
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Old 10-23-2012, 09:34 PM   #52
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My new 13 JKUR has sat through two days of monsoon like rain.....all good, no leaks. I had to take the hardtop off to uninstall the soft top as it came shipped that way and made sure to set the freedom panels down vertically instead of sliding them on. You can see how sliding them on would allow them to not sit correctly.
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Old 01-26-2013, 01:15 AM   #53
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Leakage

I bought my 2012 Wrangler during the summer, leaked on the passenger side with the first rain. Took it to the dealership and they "fixed" it, next rain it leaked on the drivers side. Took it back again and it still leaks on the drivers side. The dealership was awesome, they took good care of me, detailed my Jeep because mold was growing everywhere. I have an appointment next tuesday to fix it again. I'm very unhappy, I know they got as much of the mold off they could but I'm sure its all in the ventilation system and under the seats. It smells musty with an ArmorAll tang.

I love my Wrangler, but not this one. What recourse do I have? Would this be covered by the Lemon Law? It has about 4k miles.

What would make me happy is if they gave me a Jeep from the lot that has sat through the rains without leaking. I really dont want to resort to a Soft Top, I use this like a car, but a car that I enjoy driving P.

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Old 01-26-2013, 01:36 AM   #54
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I picked up my 2013 last weekend, took the freedom tops off next day, just put them on yesterday because of rain and no leaks so far, must be lucky.
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Old 05-11-2013, 01:22 PM   #55
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Had my 13' Sahara for 4 months now had the whole top off once to remove softop and since the weather changed in Philly routinely take off freedom panels, and never any issue with water. This morning on my way for coffe WATER started coming through the back panles on passanger side. I removed the panels and replaced, then I ran a hose on roof....Water did leak/drip through the rear panel near sound bar and down through the rear knobs....Took it to the dealer and got the Its a "JEEP" thing....no tops are 100%, more like 95%....They said the took off the panels and re-installed and ran a water test. They said no water.............So it is raining really good today, so we will see. When you pay +30Gs for a Jeep, that shit should not leak...Other than that it has been a blast.
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Old 05-11-2013, 06:51 PM   #56
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Wipe down the rubber seal with a rubber safe oily cleaner / armorall ect. Put panels back in and leave out the sound bar screws.
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Old 05-11-2013, 08:36 PM   #57
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Normally, cleaning the seals with alcohol and then apply a thin coat of Vaseline to the seals will stop most leaks. Since it is a 2013, I would take it back to the Dealer and have warranty fix it!
My 2013 does not leak, even when I wash it with a hose at full pressure.
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Old 05-13-2013, 08:06 AM   #58
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Quick Update....I was basically told by dealer that I must have not had the freedom panels set properly...Even though I have had the freedom poanels off and on a dozen times and no leak issue immediatly following a rain (its not like the fredom panels are that difficult to remove/replace). It looks like Im going to need to just keep an eye on it and if it happens again after I remove and replace panels go back to dealer and be a jackoff....
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I am on 3rd try with all the same issues.
Brought it to local dealer, just noticed wet carpers.
They replaced some seals. Next rain it was worse, with water on doors floor, and shifting column.
Brought it back. No better next rain.
I noticed the issues that people were having and have involved chrysler customer service since beginning with a case.
Chrysler called with me and the dealer's leak tech was on vacaton for two weeks.
I am at a new dealer now.They are doing all the seals again.
They prepped it yesterday and had to get the parts from Boston this am or something.
At least it was in a garage last night.
The rain here was crazy.
They won’t come out and say it, but it appears the dealer that had this twice did some “work not up to standard” and has a reputation for “blowing customers off”.
It is not this dealer’s fault, let’s see what they can do. If not, it will be jeeps problem directly. 3 strikes and I get angry.
This new dealer seems much more professional.


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Fifth time the charm?

As sad as it is, I'm glad to know I'm not alone in this!
Bought a brand new 2013 JK Unlimited at the end of January.
While there was snow and ice, no leaks.
The first rain after it all melted, and the passenger footwell had several inches of water in it (not a great start to a Monday).

Took it to the dealer... they tried the "it's a jeep, it's normal". I pointed out this was my third Wrangler and none of the previous ones had leaked. They fixed it.
Next rain storm, the driver side filled with water.
Took it back to the dealer and asked what they'd done to the driver side. They insist nothing.
They "fixed" it by changing a bunch of gaskets and telling me the Freedom top wasn't properly installed. I pointed out that up until that point, there had only been snow and ice... I assured them I had not removed it in those conditions.

Next rain... it still leaked, back to the dealer.
They re-hung the door (now you have to SLAM it to get it to close) and changed some more gaskets.

Next rain... it still leaked, back to the dealer.
They had it for two days and were telling me something about a seal up under the dash near the firewall. They returned it grudgingly the end of the second day saying they were waiting for Jeep (tech line?) to call them back.
Dealer joke "don't park it outside, park it in a garage".

A month goes by with several rains.. still leaking, no call back from dealer.
Go on a business trip, come home to find a voicemail "hey, weren't you going to leave it with us for a week? Jeep called back, we have some stuff to do."

Brought it back in, they fixed it... went on a 5 day road trip, no leaks (only a small amount of rain though). Got home, went on a business trip, parked it at the airport for ten days. Got home (last Friday), an inch of water on the drivers side. Drove straight to dealer, "apparently it's not fixed". Well, we've had a lot of heavy rain. The Service Manager cracks a joke "he just doesn't want to admit he parked it at the airport and left the window open for a week!". Made an appointment for today...

Overnight Friday, there's a light rain... 1/2" of water on the driver side Saturday morning.

They just called. "It's fixed, but we want to keep it overnight to dry it out".

...what do you think? Way past time to try another dealer?
This one is a 15 minute walk from my house... too darn convenient!

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