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Old 11-30-2013, 12:08 PM   #1
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Well we took our Jeep on it's first road trip and it ran like a champ. We did have a problem with a TPMS sensor reading low, but otherwise it handled some snowy and slippery conditions just great. The one glaring issue, was who in Jeep approved that stereo? We have the Alpine upgrade and it still sounds awful. I just can't imagine that someone could sit in there at the Jeep R&D facility and approve that piece of garbage. I would have paid an extra couple hundred dollars for something decent. Next mod incoming.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:12 PM   #2
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Great thats the same Radio we ordered...I hear that a lot of people are placing the foam ( the stuff you buy at Joanne Fabrics) inside the speaker housing which makes the radio sound better
Jeep Looks AWESOME! glad it rode well!

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Old 11-30-2013, 12:15 PM   #3
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Great thats the same Radio we ordered...I hear that a lot of people are placing the foam ( the stuff you buy at Joanne Fabrics) inside the speaker housing which makes the radio sound better Jeep Looks AWESOME! glad it rode well!
Thanks Jeepgrl, we are loving it.
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Old 11-30-2013, 12:40 PM   #4
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Speaker locations are rubbish to begin with and top that off with (expected) road noise, it's not a winning combo.
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I agree the speaker locations and road noise don't help. I am going to start with new speakers and then see where that leads me
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Old 11-30-2013, 05:33 PM   #6
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So, where else do you think speakers can be put.
The doors come off so they can't go there.
Under the seats? Nope, first time the floors get wet they are toast.
That only leaves dash and sound bar.
I have the older Nav unit and seems to be fine with me. Is it just the Alpine unit? I have heard that the newer systems have auto volume control is this the issue with the Alpine.
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Old 11-30-2013, 08:17 PM   #7
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So, where else do you think speakers can be put. The doors come off so they can't go there. Under the seats? Nope, first time the floors get wet they are toast. That only leaves dash and sound bar. I have the older Nav unit and seems to be fine with me. Is it just the Alpine unit? I have heard that the newer systems have auto volume control is this the issue with the Alpine.
I am not sure what the issue is. I don't think the location is that bad. I seem to have enough volume, which tells me it isn't a power issue. It could be a frequency roll off, to protect the crappy speakers.

My thought is the speakers will need to go either way, so I will start there. If I still have a frequency response issue, then maybe a digital signal processor and last resort, a new amp. I have seen other threads where the speaker replacement made a big difference. Hopefully that will be enough.
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Look into some Dynomat, too, Turchman! Mike swears it made a HUGE difference in his jeep. Granted he did change out the entire system, but he still thinks the Dynomat helped a lot.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:00 PM   #9
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Look into some Dynomat, too, Turchman! Mike swears it made a HUGE difference in his jeep. Granted he did change out the entire system, but he still thinks the Dynomat helped a lot.
It takes twice your current amplifier to even realize 2db of difference. Dynamat can easily reduce noise levels by 2db, so he is correct. It also gets rid of the tin can effect when closing your doors. The metal is so thin on the body it's a bit embarrassing.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:27 PM   #10
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Sounds like a Spring project.
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:41 PM   #11
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Yup, It came with my rubicon. had i paid extra for this garbage I would be furious. My brother has a JKs and i swear i cannot hear a difference between the stock system and the upgraded "alpine" system
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Old 11-30-2013, 10:55 PM   #12
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I guess that is my point, I got the Beats system in my 2013 Charger and it sounds very good for a factory system. I would have paid $800 for a decent upgrade, which I believe Jeep could have put some decent components together for.
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:37 PM   #13
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just noticed in your SIG that you did pay extra for it...Ouch!
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Old 11-30-2013, 11:43 PM   #14
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You will be shocked at how crappy the stock speakers are. That was my first project after I got my jk. Getting to the speakers in the under side of the dash kinda sucks. But after getting them out and they sit inside a box which I filled with poly fill before putting the new speakers in then did the same for the speakers in the sound bar. Could have stopped there and the sound would be way better then it was but I went ahead and ran power and everything for a amp and sub. Once you get your speakers replaced you will be much happier with the sound for sure. Good luck on getting it replaced.
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Lots of issues with the factory premium system. The speakers are actually not bad....BUT...there are a couple of major problems.

1. The 6.5' drivers do not have tweeters....so the only tweeters in the entire system are in the tombstones on the dash.
2. The soundbar "gain" is reduced, and there is also a low pass filter on it (I assume to stop the dome light for rattling).
3. Everything is 2 ohms
4. The processing is in the amp, and there is no way to make any adjustments to it.

Best bet....polyfill the sub. (Remember, too much is worse than too little). Polyfill the soundbar if you want...but that isn't really what polyfill is used for. Go to your super-lame 3 band EQ and turn the treble up to at least +7. Turn the mid-range down to at least -7, and put the bass somewhere around +2 or +3. You have to EQ out (as best you can) the mid-bass, and add in more treble.

Do those things, and it will sound a little better.

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