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Old 06-14-2014, 12:10 PM   #1
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First time jeep shopping!

Hi yall. This is my first time ever shopping for a jeep and I was hoping to get some feedback! I am looking at nothing less than a 4 door because I have a car seat I need to put in the back. How safe does a car seat fit in the back? What are the best years to look at when buying a wrangler? Such as the motor being reliable and not having to worry about something going wrong at 100K miles.

How long do these jeeps run before serious maintenance takes place? Is it expensive? I have always owned a Honda. And a Ford diesel, which was crazy to fix little things.

Here is my current situation. I have a 2008 honda civic si that has 68K miles. I owe 12K on it, I can probably get around $10,500 to almost 11K for it. So id be upside down on the loan but they would have to add it onto the new car sale price.

I found one 4 door for $14,995 with 99K miles. 2007 wrangler. Can you give me a brief overview on value? Too over priced?

Or has anyone had success with a car seat in a 2 door? It just sounds like a mess.

Here is the jeep online:

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...74022166&Log=0

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Old 06-14-2014, 12:18 PM   #2
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It's not 4x4. I myself would pass.

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Old 06-14-2014, 12:19 PM   #3
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Well I never go off road. I don't tow anything. It will be a regular daily driver. I had a 4x4 diesel truck I never even had to used the 4x4 on it.
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We had a hard winter this year. The most snow in 30 years. And I found nothing that would stop mine in 4 wheel drive. That's why I myself would not buy it. But since you live in Florida. Go ahead. I plan to drive mine till it won't go anymore.
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:29 PM   #5
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I also found these two. I read where some say its not difficult at all to get their child into the car seat. I have to try it of course but the car seat I have is big and a pain to take out! lol

This one looks pretty clean to. http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...73174028&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...70538294&Log=0

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...65119329&Log=0
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Old 06-14-2014, 12:37 PM   #6
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I just did a quick KBB estimate. Based on a Miami zip code they say the price range from a dealer should be $14,283-$16,088.

2007 Jeep Wrangler 2DR 2WD
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If you're getting a 2WD, you'd be better off in a small SUV or crossover. Just sayin. More bang for the buck.

3.8l engine in the 2008-11 are reliable but not powerful. 2012 and up has the 3.6, better engine and reliable. What's you budget? What do plan on doing with it. If you want a Jeep to commute, carry kids and play on weekends, keep the Honda because it will probably last forever and buy a TJ (1997-2006) for fun. You could pick up an older one with reasonable miles for $6k maybe less. The 4.0l engine will go 300,000 miles if minimally maintained. Just a thought.
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My friend has a fourdoor with child seats in the back of his, they fit funny and sit basically upright. I wouldn't even bother with a 2dr as I can't imagine that wrestling match. If all you want is a keep wrangler to cruise around the streets top down, 2wd is fine. But offer the guy peanuts for it as it will basically be unsellable later on. Also if that is your goal, then engine and axle(s) dont really have any importance. Just beware they are a completely different experience and not for everyone.
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Is there anything you can do to them to increase the MPG? Whats the highest you have gotten yours at?

Im talking to the dealership with the 4 door to see what numbers I can get over the phone.

But as far as reliability, can you count on them Iv always driven a car lol.
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I have a 3.6 and I get 15-17. Maybe 19 on a highway. Reliability? Eh. Its a mixed bag. 3.8's burn oil. On the whole I don't think they are to bad but compared to most other cars parts are cheap and repairs arent difficult which means a good shop wont charge too much for most repairs.
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Old 06-14-2014, 01:45 PM   #12
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I get about 24 MPG city in my civic right now. Im just tired of the small space and driving a car for my whole life :/
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Honestly if you live in Florida a 2wd would be fine. Definitely go for the 4 door because it will ride a lot better due to the longer wheelbase. There have been some cheaper 07-08 wranglers around here but all that I have seen were not in that great of a shape. Early 07-08 had oil consumption issues as well. You won't regret getting a wrangler but honestly don't expect more than 15mpg and you will be fine Lil. Good luck!
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:08 PM   #14
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Im using 93 premium gas in my civic now. Roughly $4 a gallon. You guys use regular unleaded?

Whats the most miles you have seen on a newer wrangler?
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They worked out some numbers over the phone. They said I can get about $11,300 if I trade my car in. They are asking $14,995 for the Jeep so I would have to add like $1,200 on top of the loan to have my car paid off.

My current car payment is about $250 a month. I got pre approved and I may be looking at about $275 a month.

is 99K miles too much for that price? Any issues with the transmissions needing replaced in this autos?
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:18 PM   #17
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I dont mean any disrespect, but I dont get it? I do love my jeep, but ur wanting to trade probably the most reliable, lowest cost to maintain, fuel effecient car on the planet for a jeep that is a year older, has 30k more miles, gets much worse gas mileage, and most importantly that's gonna force you to put money from savings in the pot just to pay it off because your upside down AND increase you overall long term debt. Where is the upside? Even after all that if you still go jeep, with car seats or even kids a four-door is a must. You can expect gas mileage in the low teens pre 2012 and high teens 2012-current in my experience. I truly don't mean to discourage you, just know your upside on that one is overall higher cost of ownership and lower resale (2WD) versus what you currently have or a newer model JK. Just my 2cents worth, which may be just that. Good luck with your search.
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So you think its best to just hold onto the civic?
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They run on regular. You just have to realize what you're getting in to. Its horrible daily driver, when compared to a Honda civic. That being said I drive mine 40 miles a day. Its not as reliable as a civic, but its not near as unreliable as a newer BMW. Its not about that. Life is too short to drive a bland appliance. If you have done the research, know what you are getting into, are prepared to make sacrifices of gas mileage, road manners, and some comfort plus setting some money aside for repairs great. Owning one is an experience.

The biggest thing is to beat them down on price and make sure you get a good price for your honda. Best way is to sell it on your own. After that Carmax offers good money, relative to a dealer, for a clean used car. Last is trying to get a car lot to give you a fair price for it. You just have to be a hard ass and grind on them.

Auto trans. ... yes. Chrysler makes a garbage automatic transmission. Who knows what care its had in 100k miles. That being said its a simple box and I dont think its a horrendous repair for a trans. BMW trans is like $7k installed. Jeep 4 speed? Probably a third of that would be my guess.
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And why are you running 93 octane premium in a Civic???
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I have the si model civic. Inside gas cap and manual says 93 octane only. I may take the drive and test drive it.. see what I can get number wise.

Can you mod the jeep to get better gas?. Life is too short but im only 22. Not many adults my age even have the civic I have. Thats why its good to have credit haha

when test driving the jeep, is there any specific way to test the tranny out?
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Old 06-15-2014, 06:25 AM   #22
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Comparing my car now this is what I came up with.

Jeep will spend about $3600 per year vs my $2600 in the civic. Over 5 years Ill spend $18,000 vs $12,400
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I'd think twice about financing a vehicle with 100,000 miles for what I assume is 60-72 months based on the payment you stated. You will be only further upside down on the jeep.
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And how much is everyone actually putting in their gas tank a week? Do you know an estimate of $ you pay per year more than a car that gets good mpg?
Who cares what we pay. More importantly, how much are you going to be paying for gas, and are you comfortable with that? It's easy to do the math. I bet whatever you pay now for gas with your Civic, the Jeep will be double.

Also, I wouldn't buy a 2wd drive jeep. I always think ahead with cars, and you will have a VERY hard time trying to sell a 2wd drive jeep with 100k+ miles (even in FL, that's my opinion).
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Id be looking at 270 or so a month. For 72 months. Right now I owe 12.5k on my car. Room just gets so limited sometimes. Gas is not bad at all. Putting my child in and out gets annoying
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Honestly it sounds like you have never driven a Jeep. I think you should take the first step and test drive one and see how you feel. I disagree on the resale of a 2wd in FL, most jeeps around here just go to the mall and people won't care when you sell it. Having a Jeep is an experience... Sometimes the soft top leaks, the mpg is horrible, it's underpowered...butt... When you take the top off and go cruise around it is just amazing, when it rains and floods they are like a tank, etc. where in FL are you?
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I'd stay away from a 2WD Jeep, also stay away from the right hand drive one too.
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So if you drive 10k a year give or take, that means that jeep will have 160k on it give or take. That means you will basically have a car payment, and repair bills you are responsible for at a time when its eventually going to need lots of work. Not so bad if you're like some of us in here who can basically rebuild a car, not so good if you can't. Also if you're going that long on a loan on such a car with those miles you will be upside down in it for a long time. You dont want to pay $275 a month, and $500 for and water pump, then two months after that another $275 for your payment and $700 for rear brakes and wheel bearings, then another month or two its oil leaks, then suspension parts, trans, so on and so on.

Generally the only time financing a car with those miles works is:

A: its a weekend toy and a spare car that will see little use and can sit if it needs something

B: you are handy with tools, get parts a discount and can do all your own work (my category)

C: you have the money to not only pay your payement, but $3k a year in repairs on top of that wont hurt you.

We have a saying in the car business, you never really own it. Once you've paid the bank, you pay me and the parts department.
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What about a 2 door jeep? Say I wanted to have a second car for a toy... and the summer time.

What year and model of the 2 doors do you recommend??

On that 4 door, what if I got the price down to around $13K? Does that still sound too high?
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