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Old 07-08-2014, 10:17 AM   #1
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All the threads I'm seeing people put the aftermarket floor mats on top of the carpet... My carpet on the driver's side tends to come loose around the tranny bump and is just pretty annoying. I was wondering if anyone just removes that carpet and lays down the floor mat for traction directly. Does the tranny bump look bare with this setup?

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All the threads I'm seeing people put the aftermarket floor mats on top of the carpet... My carpet on the driver's side tends to come loose around the tranny bump and is just pretty annoying. I was wondering if anyone just removes that carpet and lays down the floor mat for traction directly. Does the tranny bump look bare with this setup?
I pulled all my carpets last month and ran with only the OEM slush mats up front. It looked great and I loved it. (You would need to remove the ugly red/yellow warning sticker on the tranny hump for aesthetics, though.)

Problem was, I don't like my mats sliding around, and there's no good way to secure them. I Velcro'd them, but the Velcro sticks great to the floorboard but not as well to the back of the rubber mats, so that when you go to pull the mats out and clean them, the Velcro comes off the back rather than separating from the other Velcro.

Wound up using bedtred to replace the carpets (waterproof material). It's pricey, PLUS you have to pull the OEM anchors out of the original carpets to have an anchor for your mats in the BedTred. But I'm super enthused with the BedTred now that's it's installed. Costs about $229 for the front seat/backseat area on a 2-door. Takes minutes to install. Full writeup here: BedTred: easy install including OEM Slush Mat Anchors Note: in the pictures I only installed the front floorboard mats, not the rear floorboard mats that come up under the front seats from behind. That is why you can see Anvil Gray showing under the seat. I have all my drain plugs removed so I didn't want mats in the back. Seat is removed so no feet back there.







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I pulled mine after my interior flooded last weekend. I also have the slush mats, but I'm with NoGaBiker - I hate the sliding. I was going to try to cut a no-skid rug mat to size to see if that solves the problem. That BedTred looks awesome though
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That looks awesome with the bedtred! I've seen a lot of floor mats with the anchor holes (I think... Might defeat the purpose though), couldn't those be used in lieu of the carpet anchors to secure them down? I dunno, just don't really like the carpet... I'm really thinking about the bedtred now.
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Not sure I'm following your question. The reason the carpet and Bedtread work is that they are large and molded to fit the floorboard perfectly, so they stay put and don't slide around. Then you can attach the anchors, as illustrated in my other thread showing how to do that. Without something that attaches securely to the floorboard, I don't know how to get the anchors to stay. No way an adhesive on back of the little anchors is going to stick well enough with its little surface area to hold the slush Mat in place.

Did you have another idea of how to get the rubber mats to stay down when you want them, but be easily and quickly removable for cleaning?
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Bed tred looks great! Are you worried about water getting trapped underneath? And how has it been holding up?
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Yeah, I thought the anchors hooked up to something on the floorboard, and if the floormats had a hole, I could use the anchor just like on the carpet, but on the floormat. I haven't lifted the carpet to see how it was hooked up but that was my assumption.
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Yeah, I thought the anchors hooked up to something on the floorboard, and if the floormats had a hole, I could use the anchor just like on the carpet, but on the floormat. I haven't lifted the carpet to see how it was hooked up but that was my assumption.
The anchors have a front and back disc, with about a 3/4" axle between them. They pass through a hole in the carpet, and the disks clamp together around the carpet. You can see it in the link I posted to my installation write-up.
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Bed tred looks great! Are you worried about water getting trapped underneath? And how has it been holding up?
As far as water getting under it from above, gonna be hard. It fits tight and traps water. BUT, by punching those holes for the mat anchors I did introduce a way for water to seep down to the floor. I would have RTV sealed the holes except for the fact that I...

... pulled all my drain plugs weeks ago and intend to keep them out. So much more water will come up from below (and subsequently drain back out and or evaporate from the heat) than would ever seep down from on top.

I've only had it in a couple of weeks, but it looks exactly as it came out of the box, except dirtier. From using similar material only thinner as tool chest drawer liner, I'd suspect it will have a very long life, UNLESS it degrades from UV, which the tool chest never sees.
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Yeah, I thought the anchors hooked up to something on the floorboard, and if the floormats had a hole, I could use the anchor just like on the carpet, but on the floormat. I haven't lifted the carpet to see how it was hooked up but that was my assumption.
Oh, I guess you mean the anchors that hold the carpets down -- there really aren't any. It just stays because it's easier for it to stay than not. It is sort of pinched down by the seat legs in back, and there are a couple of little screw-down anchors along the leading edge, waaaayyyy up under the firewall, but I don't think any mats will reach up there. You can reach up there and screw those out and see what I'm talking about, without committing to removing the carpet just yet.
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As far as water getting under it from above, gonna be hard. It fits tight and traps water. BUT, by punching those holes for the mat anchors I did introduce a way for water to seep down to the floor. I would have RTV sealed the holes except for the fact that I... ... pulled all my drain plugs weeks ago and intend to keep them out. So much more water will come up from below (and subsequently drain back out and or evaporate from the heat) than would ever seep down from on top. I've only had it in a couple of weeks, but it looks exactly as it came out of the box, except dirtier. From using similar material only thinner as tool chest drawer liner, I'd suspect it will have a very long life, UNLESS it degrades from UV, which the tool chest never sees.
Gotcha, thanks for the info and quick reply
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I've been wanting to take out my carpet after I noticed mildew/mold from a few days of nonstop rain. It was a while before I noticed it. I have weathertech digital floor mats but rain still got under them. I read that after removing the carpet, there is a noticeable increase in heat on the feet. Does this bedliner stuff help block any of that? Will the increased heat damage the floor mats?
Love the clean look, great job!
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I've been wanting to take out my carpet after I noticed mildew/mold from a few days of nonstop rain. It was a while before I noticed it. I have weathertech digital floor mats but rain still got under them. I read that after removing the carpet, there is a noticeable increase in heat on the feet. Does this bedliner stuff help block any of that? Will the increased heat damage the floor mats?
Love the clean look, great job!
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It was mid-nineties in ATL during the couple of weeks I had my carpets out and I never felt anything. I mean, maybe if you were barefoot and rested your feet on the bare metal you'd feel "more" heat than you would through carpet -- that only stands to reason -- but I don't think you'd feel uncomfortable amounts of heat. And with shoes on I don't know how you'd feel it if the metal was 120 degrees.

I did notice a small amount of increased road noise -- sounded a little bit like a bearing just starting to go bad. But as soon as I realized it wasn't a mechanical failure in the making, my brain tuned it out and I never thought about it again till somebody asked me about it on here.

Now -- full disclosure: I haven't had my windows in since early May (top always up, doors usually out, windows always out.) So it's hard to hear little increases in noise, or feel little increases in heat. If you run top up, doors and windows in, AC blasting, you might have a different opinion than me. But the great thing is, putting your carpet back in will take about 3 minutes, so it won't be a problem if you pull it. You need to do that frequently anyway unless you got one of the 1% of Wranglers that claim to have no leaks. (And I believe that like I believe people who say their dogs don't piss on the carpet -- wait till they move and you pull their carpet up and look at the back side of it. )

As to your "does the BedTred block any of that" question: absolutely. The little bit of noise I heard with no carpet went away completely with the BedTred. It's thick and even has foil heat reflector pads on the backside that are probably completely unnecessary but make you feel like there's NO WAY a stray calorie of heat is going to get into this cabin.

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