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Old 03-16-2011, 11:00 PM   #1
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Folding down the rear seats

I may be doing something wrong, but this has become a pet peeve of mine. When I fold down my rear seats, I want them to fold down horizontally and STAY. Either I am doing something wrong, or Jeep designed it so that they don't lock in the horizontal position, and instead, fold over a second time to be vertical against the front seats.

I may be overreacting, but I've had my seat folded down horizontally and while I was driving it flipped over to its vertical folded position... so no, it doesn't stay unless I put something heavy on it.

Also, I find that there is much more cargo space when the seats are in the horizontal folded position rather then the vertical folded position.

....just wanted to vent and hear some thoughts.

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:05 PM   #2
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I took mine out. No problem and more space.

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Old 03-16-2011, 11:09 PM   #3
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I took mine out. No problem and more space.
I live in a college apartment... no space to take out the seats and store them, and I have people in the back often so Id like the seats to be there. lol
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:13 PM   #4
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Put a big rock on it. It'll stay.
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:20 PM   #5
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Put a big rock on it. It'll stay.
Jee, why didn't I think of that earlier?
Maybe Jeep will sell me one for an outrageous price and call it a "rear seat restraint system"...

But seriously, why didn't Jeep just make it lock in either position, like my Liberty was when I had it? They're perfectly capable of making it happen in other models.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:33 AM   #6
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They are not designed to stay flat. I don't know why anyone would want them to since there is so much more room with them flipped up.
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:46 AM   #7
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If it's anything like the TJ, it probably has a spring that makes it sit in the vertical position.If it is spring loaded, you might be able to remove the spring. Not sure though, because I don't own a JK.

My YJ doesn't have that spring, and will sit flat like you say. When I want to keep it vertical, I just hook a bungee cord up to the roll bar. It's actually pretty nice when you want to transport something that is fairly long. You leave the seat flat, and run it to the front of the cab.
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Old 03-17-2011, 01:08 AM   #8
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How do you fold down the seat in your YJ? I've looked on the seats and can't find anything to fold it down
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:18 AM   #9
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my jku seats stay flat when they are folded, maybe u got a bad rear seat :-).....
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:29 AM   #10
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my jku seats stay flat when they are folded, maybe u got a bad rear seat :-).....
Then you've got the only one.

Mine will sit flat until the first time you hit the brakes, and it comes flinging up into its vertical position.

I imagine if you spent a few minutes looking at how the rear feet latch on to the bar when the seat is in "seat mode", you could probably come up with some way of holding it down when it's folded.
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Old 03-17-2011, 06:53 AM   #11
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im going to add to my post which makes sense now, only time i fold my rear seats is wehn i put the two fredom pieces of the hard top on them so that is deff why they dont pop up,
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I took mine out. No problem and more space.
yup and i gave mine away,,,,,,, the dump
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:06 AM   #13
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Maybe I'll get a duster and pretend like the seats don't exist. If the roommates need a DD for the night, they're SOL because my car is a 2-seater.

Win - win?
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Ok, A couple of things...
The JKU seats stay because they are not "fold and tumble" completely different from the 2 door model.
In my TJ I used to make the seats stay in the horizontal position by using a nylon strap. The seats want to "tumble"*forward. Use a strap or even a piece of rope to strap the rear par of the seat to the rear floor board (behind the seat in the "trunk" area). The mechanism that wants to pull it forward will pull tight on the strap and hold it in place.
Lastly- What do the rest of you really care if he wants his seats horizontal? I think flat fenders are silly, but I sure would be happy to help a buddy put a set on his rig.
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Lastly- What do the rest of you really care if he wants his seats horizontal? I think flat fenders are silly, but I sure would be happy to help a buddy put a set on his rig.
It's people like you that make this forum my forum-of-choice for Jeep.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:22 AM   #16
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Buy a strap, and do work. I really dont get how there is more room when its folded only the first time. The seat hasnt moved forward at all, just the seat back has went down, there is loads more room if the seat is folded up.
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Lastly- What do the rest of you really care if he wants his seats horizontal? I think flat fenders are silly, but I sure would be happy to help a buddy put a set on his rig.
I don't "care". I'm just curious as to why. Who knows maybe I'm missing out on something. Flat fenders are a great way to add clearance for larger tires.
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:40 AM   #18
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Buy a strap, and do work. I really dont get how there is more room when its folded only the first time. The seat hasnt moved forward at all, just the seat back has went down, there is loads more room if the seat is folded up.
When it's folded down you can lay things ontop of it, the seat essentially isn't "in the way". When its folded vertically up against the driver's seat, the seat essentially takes up that space in thickness that can't be utilized because you can't really put anything on top of it. Basically, the surface area of your cargo space is less when it's folded vertically.
I've put a lot of thought into this, since I'm still in college and drive home every other month or so. Space in my '08 Liberty was great, but I have no idea how I'm bringing everything home for the summer in the Wrangler.

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I don't "care". I'm just curious as to why. Who knows maybe I'm missing out on something. Flat fenders are a great way to add clearance for larger tires.
Read what I posted above about utilizing surface area.^^^
Also, I just don't like the seat sitting up against the front seats vertically. The passenger can't recline and relax on long drives if you have packed bags up against the folded rear seat, and it just feels weird, like an invasion of space.
I like seeing all of my bags in the back and knowing it's all good when things slide and fly around the cargo.

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