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Old 01-01-2014, 10:33 AM   #1
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Folding Windshield

If you use your folding windshield And if they stopped putting it on the wrangler would you be upset ?

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Old 01-01-2014, 10:47 AM   #2
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The last time I actually folded a Jeep windshield down was on the 1945 CJ2 me & a buddy had in high school 50 years ago!

If my JK was easy to do, I'd use it. Probably.

It's too complex, my need to do such is very VERY limited, and the probability of causing some issue with the Freedom Top wind/water sealing capability is too risky. But that's just me.

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Old 01-01-2014, 11:09 AM   #3
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With today's design I see no need for this functionality and should be discontinued.

If they made it easier maybe I'd do it but as it stands, I have to urge to do it.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:29 AM   #4
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Last thing I want is more leaks from breaking the seal after lowering the windshield.
IMO, JKs don't look good with the concave windshield Down. CJs look awesome.
I say either keep it for historic value or just ditch it all together.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:40 AM   #5
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Folded it once on both my YJ and TJ for one weekend each. Did it, done with it. It didn't make driving or maneuvering any easier, but I did get an education on how much crap flies into the front of a vehicle on even at low speeds. I never bothered on either of my JK's and will likely never do so.
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:50 AM   #6
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This feature is going away for sure on the JK's successor. It just isnt practical to use and increased saftey standards tell me this feature is done. If the JK had a flat windshield and it had been easier to fold it might be useable but it is too time consuming now for most to bother with it.
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Old 01-01-2014, 12:28 PM   #7
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I can only see a benefit in lowering it after having it shot up in a gun battle during the apocalypse, lol. I don't think I ever would, I don't even know if I'll ever take the entire top off either.
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Old 01-01-2014, 01:56 PM   #8
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Yeah, it really is one of the quintessential jeep design features that I wouldn't miss or complain about. I bitched more about square headlights then I would if they did away with the foldable windshield.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:02 PM   #9
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In my old CJ7 I lowered the windshield often as it was really easy to do. Not so much now-a-days on the JK's. Wouldn't bother me in the slightest if they removed the folding windshield.
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:52 PM   #10
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I really have no use for it, last time I used the folding windshield was on an M-38 when I was in Vietnam
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Old 01-01-2014, 02:55 PM   #11
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I have no intent to ever lower mine for all of the aforementioned reasons. But I like that it will fold if I ever want it to. Part of what makes it a jeep.
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If you use your folding windshield And if they stopped putting it on the wrangler would you be upset ?
If they do, most likely it would be more on that list to remove. So, no I prefer it to stay as it is. They could improve current Wrangler without changing current design.
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Old 01-01-2014, 04:06 PM   #13
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I think it'd be a cool dealer "add on" option after they take it off the JK.

Personally I've taken mine down twice on my TJ and I think it makes my Jeep a Jeep. They can take it off the JK but I think they should make it an add on which'd be cool.
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Old 01-01-2014, 04:40 PM   #14
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How hard is it to put down?
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Old 01-01-2014, 11:23 PM   #15
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I don't even know how to do it. Seen it down during safari's.
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I dropped the windshield on my '82 Scrambler and on my '03 Rubicon virtually every time I was out on a trail...and would do so on the JK if it didn't require an hour and the removal of 18 bolts. The Scrambler was super simple from the factory...just remove two knobs on the dash. You didn't even have to remove the wipers. On the '03, it took less than a minute after I replaced the two side bolts with knobs and put in a sport cage that was not connected to the windshield.

Every year, I told the Jeep reps at the annual Moab safari that I refused to buy a JK because they had made the windshield almost impossible to lower. The first year the JK was manufactured, the Jeep reps at the Safari did not even know how to lower the windshield. Well, I finally broke down and bought one because I wanted the extra space offered by a 4-door.

Overall, I'm happy with the JK. But in my opinion, the fact that they have made the windshield so hard to lower is the single WORST thing they ever did to a Jeep. It may be more luxurious now, but it's not nearly as much fun.
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:17 AM   #17
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I've never dropped mine, and I doubt it if I ever will.
If they removed it, I would be at best (worst) slightly bummed. But if safety, fuel economy, and leaks were all improved, I would be OK.
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The JK is an excellent, capable vehicle, but compared with the MB and GPW it is *soft* with creature comforts and even curviness. Due to the shape of the windshield and hood I think it would look ridiculous with the windshild lowered.

My TJ windshield has been down about four or five times in the last decade. All of those times were in my first two years of ownership. It looked silly with all that extra weight and all the plastic bits on the windshield frame, and there was no safe way to keep it from bouncing and breaking the glass.

On the CJs it could be physically locked down. Not on so on the TJs. You have to tie it down, and on anything beyond very smooth pavement this is an invitation to expensive repairs. And the JK is set up the same way.

With the JK moving even further in the direction of the TJ away from the original, boxy, tiny, damned near disposable design, the modernity and chunkiness of the current windshield would just look bad folded down.

And there is no reason for it in most cases. I picked a lot of bugs out of my teeth and hair during those four or five short drives with my windshield down.

If Jeep decided to ditch that feature I would not be upset. I would be more wistful about losing some of its inherent jeepiness, however.

If offered as an option as mentioned above, I would probably be a fool and pay for it, though. HAHAHA!!!

I included a photo of a very nice JK with the screen down. This is not a comment on the guy's jeep at all; I like this color, especially.

I would like my TJ with the windshield down if the roll bars were gone. They just look lame like that. Same with the JK. The CJ bars with the slanted brace looked *ok* with the windshield down. But it never looks quite right unless there is NO cage at all.

And I am not willing to pull my cage for an afternoon of fun with the windshield down on the beach. Too bad for me, I guess...
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Gee...I was always having too much fun to worry about how it looked. I couldn't care less if someone didn't think it looked good. I always felt sorry for folks I passed on the trail who were trapped inside their hardtop cages and behind their aquarium glass. And on the countless times I dropped my windshields on countless trails, I never had the slightest bit of damage.

I would not drop the windshield on the JK without a sport cage. If someone makes one that is easily detached from the windshield, I'll be the first in line to buy it.
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Its too cumbersome on a JK, and on top of that, almost everyone I have seen on the forums that has tried it ends up with leaks. If there was a "windshield folding delete" option from the factory, I'd definitely get it.
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Old 01-02-2014, 01:39 PM   #21
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i say keep it.. never stray from heritage. I'll never be folding mine down though lol
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Old 01-02-2014, 02:26 PM   #22
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Well they added 2 more doors. Nope make the windshield welded shut. Now all they have to at the assembly plant is get rid of those silly fender flares........ wa-law instant H3
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Right, with a flat windshield, that was fine, but now, just erase it.
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:15 PM   #24
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I love folding the windshield on my TJ, and would be pretty disappointed of they deleted it. Sure the cage looks a little odd without the front bars, but I couldn't care less. Although i do think the JK looks odd with it folded down.
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Old 01-26-2014, 12:02 PM   #25
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I was curious about folding down the windshield on my 2014 unlimited rubicon. since so many people mentioned wind/water leaks or paint damage I decided to email jeep and ask...

This was their response, if it helps anyone!

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"Thank you for contacting the Chrysler Assistance Center.

The fold-down windshield and removable side bars on your vehicle are
structural elements that can provide some protection in some accidents.
The windshield also provides some protection against weather, road
debris and intrusion of small branches and other objects.

Do not drive your vehicle on-road with the windshield down and the side
bars removed as you lose the protection these structural elements can
provide.

Lowering and raising of the windshield properly should not cause
interference with the top or doors if performed properly. If required
for certain off-road uses, the side bars can be removed and the
windshield folded down. However, the protection afforded by these
features is then lost. If you remove the side bars and fold down the
windshield, drive slowly and cautiously. It is recommended that the
speed of the vehicle be limited to 10 mph (16 km/h), with low range
operation preferred if you are driving off-road with the windshield
folded down.

Raise the windshield and reinstall the side bars as soon as the task
that required their removal is completed and before you return to
on-road driving. Both you and your passenger should wear seat belts at
all times, on-road and off-road, regardless of whether the windshield is
raised or folded down.

Outside rearview mirrors are mounted on the doors. If you choose to
remove the doors, see your authorized dealer for a replacement
cowl-mounted outside mirror. Federal law requires outside mirrors on
vehicles for on-road use.

Carefully follow these warnings to help protect against personal injury:
Do not drive your vehicle on-road with the windshield down.
Do not drive your vehicle unless the windshield is securely fastened,
either up or down.
Eye protection, such as goggles, should be worn at all times when the
windshield is down.
Be sure that you carefully follow the instructions for raising the
windshield. Make sure that the folding windshield, windshield wipers,
side bars, and all associated hardware and fasteners are correctly and
tightly assembled before driving your vehicle.

Failure to follow these instructions may prevent your vehicle from
providing you and your passengers protection in some accidents.

If you remove the doors, store them outside the vehicle. In the event of
an accident, a loose door may cause personal injury.

Thanks again for your email.

Sincerely,

Tony

Customer Service Representative
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Is this guy's roll bar different than mine or does the rest come off with the windshield folded down?
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Is this guy's roll bar different than mine or does the rest come off with the windshield folded down?
You remove the front portion of the roll bars as well with both the 2 and 4 door... looks goofy all and all in my opinion but appreciate having the option
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Honestly I can't ever see the need on my JK to fold it down. If they could slightly angle the windshield just a bit so it's not a rock magnet I'd be happy. But nothing extreme to take away from the Jeep's image.
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Definitely dont want to roll over with the windshield down and that front rollbar out.

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