The last time I actually folded a Jeep windshield down was on the 1945 CJ2 me & a buddy had in high school 50 years ago!
If my JK was easy to do, I'd use it. Probably.
It's too complex, my need to do such is very VERY limited, and the probability of causing some issue with the Freedom Top wind/water sealing capability is too risky. But that's just me.
get in--buckle up--hang on
"soothing agricultural implement/personal servant/Walter Mitty multidimensional access utility device conveniently travels on pavement when necessary and often keeps me warm/cool/dry/soothed as needed."
Last thing I want is more leaks from breaking the seal after lowering the windshield.
IMO, JKs don't look good with the concave windshield Down. CJs look awesome.
I say either keep it for historic value or just ditch it all together.
Folded it once on both my YJ and TJ for one weekend each. Did it, done with it. It didn't make driving or maneuvering any easier, but I did get an education on how much crap flies into the front of a vehicle on even at low speeds. I never bothered on either of my JK's and will likely never do so.
2013 JK Unlimited Sahara Flame Red
This feature is going away for sure on the JK's successor. It just isnt practical to use and increased saftey standards tell me this feature is done. If the JK had a flat windshield and it had been easier to fold it might be useable but it is too time consuming now for most to bother with it.
2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport S - Gecko Pearl Coat
Yeah, it really is one of the quintessential jeep design features that I wouldn't miss or complain about. I bitched more about square headlights then I would if they did away with the foldable windshield.
2013 Unlimited Rubicon - 2.5 Metalcloak - Ripp Supercharger - And Alot of Armor
I really have no use for it, last time I used the folding windshield was on an M-38 when I was in Vietnam
2013 Sport S , BFG KM tires,Pro Comp 7005 wheels, Body Armour Rock sliders, Rugged Ridge light bar and Warn lights and Pavement Ends front bumper, Trucklites, Rubicon shocks , Daystar 3/4" spacer lift and Unlimited 17/58 springs
I dropped the windshield on my '82 Scrambler and on my '03 Rubicon virtually every time I was out on a trail...and would do so on the JK if it didn't require an hour and the removal of 18 bolts. The Scrambler was super simple from the factory...just remove two knobs on the dash. You didn't even have to remove the wipers. On the '03, it took less than a minute after I replaced the two side bolts with knobs and put in a sport cage that was not connected to the windshield.
Every year, I told the Jeep reps at the annual Moab safari that I refused to buy a JK because they had made the windshield almost impossible to lower. The first year the JK was manufactured, the Jeep reps at the Safari did not even know how to lower the windshield. Well, I finally broke down and bought one because I wanted the extra space offered by a 4-door.
Overall, I'm happy with the JK. But in my opinion, the fact that they have made the windshield so hard to lower is the single WORST thing they ever did to a Jeep. It may be more luxurious now, but it's not nearly as much fun.
The JK is an excellent, capable vehicle, but compared with the MB and GPW it is *soft* with creature comforts and even curviness. Due to the shape of the windshield and hood I think it would look ridiculous with the windshild lowered.
My TJ windshield has been down about four or five times in the last decade. All of those times were in my first two years of ownership. It looked silly with all that extra weight and all the plastic bits on the windshield frame, and there was no safe way to keep it from bouncing and breaking the glass.
On the CJs it could be physically locked down. Not on so on the TJs. You have to tie it down, and on anything beyond very smooth pavement this is an invitation to expensive repairs. And the JK is set up the same way.
With the JK moving even further in the direction of the TJ away from the original, boxy, tiny, damned near disposable design, the modernity and chunkiness of the current windshield would just look bad folded down.
And there is no reason for it in most cases. I picked a lot of bugs out of my teeth and hair during those four or five short drives with my windshield down.
If Jeep decided to ditch that feature I would not be upset. I would be more wistful about losing some of its inherent jeepiness, however.
If offered as an option as mentioned above, I would probably be a fool and pay for it, though. HAHAHA!!!
I included a photo of a very nice JK with the screen down. This is not a comment on the guy's jeep at all; I like this color, especially.
I would like my TJ with the windshield down if the roll bars were gone. They just look lame like that. Same with the JK. The CJ bars with the slanted brace looked *ok* with the windshield down. But it never looks quite right unless there is NO cage at all.
And I am not willing to pull my cage for an afternoon of fun with the windshield down on the beach. Too bad for me, I guess...
2003 Shale Green TJ Sport
2013 Black JK Sport S
The terms "PO" and POS" are interchangeable when referring to the guy who used to own my TJ.
Gee...I was always having too much fun to worry about how it looked. I couldn't care less if someone didn't think it looked good. I always felt sorry for folks I passed on the trail who were trapped inside their hardtop cages and behind their aquarium glass. And on the countless times I dropped my windshields on countless trails, I never had the slightest bit of damage.
I would not drop the windshield on the JK without a sport cage. If someone makes one that is easily detached from the windshield, I'll be the first in line to buy it.
Its too cumbersome on a JK, and on top of that, almost everyone I have seen on the forums that has tried it ends up with leaks. If there was a "windshield folding delete" option from the factory, I'd definitely get it.
I love folding the windshield on my TJ, and would be pretty disappointed of they deleted it. Sure the cage looks a little odd without the front bars, but I couldn't care less. Although i do think the JK looks odd with it folded down.
"Thank you for contacting the Chrysler Assistance Center.
The fold-down windshield and removable side bars on your vehicle are
structural elements that can provide some protection in some accidents.
The windshield also provides some protection against weather, road
debris and intrusion of small branches and other objects.
Do not drive your vehicle on-road with the windshield down and the side
bars removed as you lose the protection these structural elements can
Lowering and raising of the windshield properly should not cause
interference with the top or doors if performed properly. If required
for certain off-road uses, the side bars can be removed and the
windshield folded down. However, the protection afforded by these
features is then lost. If you remove the side bars and fold down the
windshield, drive slowly and cautiously. It is recommended that the
speed of the vehicle be limited to 10 mph (16 km/h), with low range
operation preferred if you are driving off-road with the windshield
Raise the windshield and reinstall the side bars as soon as the task
that required their removal is completed and before you return to
on-road driving. Both you and your passenger should wear seat belts at
all times, on-road and off-road, regardless of whether the windshield is
raised or folded down.
Outside rearview mirrors are mounted on the doors. If you choose to
remove the doors, see your authorized dealer for a replacement
cowl-mounted outside mirror. Federal law requires outside mirrors on
vehicles for on-road use.
Carefully follow these warnings to help protect against personal injury:
Do not drive your vehicle on-road with the windshield down.
Do not drive your vehicle unless the windshield is securely fastened,
either up or down.
Eye protection, such as goggles, should be worn at all times when the
windshield is down.
Be sure that you carefully follow the instructions for raising the
windshield. Make sure that the folding windshield, windshield wipers,
side bars, and all associated hardware and fasteners are correctly and
tightly assembled before driving your vehicle.
Failure to follow these instructions may prevent your vehicle from
providing you and your passengers protection in some accidents.
If you remove the doors, store them outside the vehicle. In the event of
an accident, a loose door may cause personal injury.
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Honestly I can't ever see the need on my JK to fold it down. If they could slightly angle the windshield just a bit so it's not a rock magnet I'd be happy. But nothing extreme to take away from the Jeep's image.