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Old 07-19-2013, 03:07 PM   #61
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I think some of the issues people have with the sound system arent entirely the fault of the system itself. Most modern vehicles have much higher insulation and sound deadening values. Neither the soft top nor the hard top provide quality insulation to allow the sound system to really shine. Things like removeable doors and hard tops are horrible for sound quality. Jeep would be wise to fill the hollow core of the hard top with an expanding foam. That would quickly change the sound quality. Insulating the door panels and tub with sound deadening layers would also help. These are things that are standard on most high end cars.

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Old 07-19-2013, 03:27 PM   #62
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gotta wounder how many folks are going to re up sirius subscription judging on the lackluster performance from the factory sound system
even if sirius offered it to me for free I would have to think about it as the sound quality is worse than AM radio

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Old 07-19-2013, 04:01 PM   #63
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I ordered these tweeters today: Amazon.com: Infinity Reference 1031t 1-Inch, High-Performance 150-Watt Textile-Dome Tweeter (Pair): Car Electronics

Well overdue. I see some people have already installed them with good results.

And yes, Sirius quality is terrible. Sounds like 96kbps (at best) music streaming. What a joke.
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I ordered these tweeters today: Amazon.com: Infinity Reference 1031t 1-Inch, High-Performance 150-Watt Textile-Dome Tweeter (Pair): Car Electronics

Well overdue. I see some people have already installed them with good results.

And yes, Sirius quality is terrible. Sounds like 96kbps (at best) music streaming. What a joke.
Let us know how they go....especially if they fit without having to trim the factory tombstone.
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Old 07-19-2013, 10:19 PM   #65
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I'm unhappy with the sound system in my 13' JKU but haven't done anything as I have other things that take priority right now. Eventually I'll get to it. Everything will be redone from scratch, matched and crossed over properly.
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WOW, a ton of responses. I will agree that the satellite radio is terrible, it sounds like a 64kpbs stream.

I am coming from subaru (2009), saab (various years), land rover (1998), and honda (2003) backgrounds - all of which have absolutely terrible audio systems (the premium ones even) and have sounded worse than the Wrangler.

I did end up putting aftermarket systems in most of those.

The Wrangler is good enough for me as it is now. In a few years I may decide to upgrade if I have an extra $1,500 laying around. But I am genuinely surprised at how many people think it's so terrible. Jeep must have thought Wrangler people don't care much about audio quality?

I guess there are qualities in the wrangler's driving experience that don't make me focus on it as hard on sound quality I did in my other vehicles. Driving the subaru was so boring I NEEDED good sound I guess haha. I would consider myself a bit of an audiophile - built my own home theatre system, can appreciate the difference between a 192kbps mp3 and a 320kbps mp3. I know that the Wrangler still isnt AMAZING - but for me it's not bad enough to want to replace immediately.

I have not been able to find any aftermarket head units for a decent price with the same voice activation features that the stock wrangler head unit has. I could not live without that now that I have it.

What I would really like is an aftermarket android head unit I could add to my 4g plan with built in Google Now voice activation and Google Maps Navigation - why does no one make this yet?
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Mines not too bad actually. el cheapo 130 .I wish it just had a little more power and I would be a happy Jeeper. One good thing about it.With the top off the thugs walk by and must be really disappointed to see a 130 HU.
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What I would really like is an aftermarket android head unit I could add to my 4g plan with built in Google Now voice activation and Google Maps Navigation - why does no one make this yet?
I've seen guys put an iPad mini in the dash with a head unit tucked away. Maybe this could be done with a Nexus 7 or Samsung Galaxy tablet.
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Some people gripe about leaks. Some people gripe about squeaks. Some people gripe about sound. Some people gripe about the people who gripe about leaks or squeaks.

I'm guessing some people who gripe about people who gripe about leaks and squeaks gripe about sound.

Some people don't give a hoot about anything.

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Old 07-20-2013, 07:34 AM   #71
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I've changed my speakers, but I think I had it at:
Treble +7
Mid -7
Bass+3

Or something like that.

The problem with the factory system and why everyone calls it muddy is because there is WAY too much mid-bass and there are only two tweeters in the entire system (the tombstones on the dash are not even powered by the amp). Plus you can't control the sub separately.
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Thanks for the tip.

I might crank my mid's low and see how that helps!
After a 10 hour road trip to Orlando, I can say that adjusting the mids to -6 or -7 really helped clean things up. Good tip!
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Old 07-20-2013, 07:43 AM   #72
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2010 here with a factory head unit. It had a premium sound system when I bought it, but like many others, I couldn't stand it. Changed out all of the speakers (filled sound bar w/foam). Added two amps, a 4 channel Alpine amp (had for years) and a 2 channel Rockford amp. Put a sub box in (2 tens). Now I don't have any issues hearing it without the top. Not the best sounding system I've had, but I can't complain.
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Some people gripe about leaks. Some people gripe about squeaks. Some people gripe about sound. Some people gripe about the people who gripe about leaks or squeaks.

I'm guessing some people who gripe about people who gripe about leaks and squeaks gripe about sound.

Some people don't give a hoot about anything.

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Old 07-20-2013, 08:45 AM   #74
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just recently did a total upgrade on my 2012 rubi unlimited sound after living with the average sound quality for a year - went with pioneer avic z150bh HU with pioneer iphone 5 connection (HDMI/lightening), alpine pdx-v9 5 channel AMP, morel components upfront and morel coax in sound bar - IT IS NIGHT AND DAY COMPARED TO STOCK - of course it cost a bundle, but there's really no comparison. i left the current infinity sub for now, but will probably upgrade that next. just trying to decide if i go for something bigger or work with existing enclosure. (BTW, the morel tweeter is a little "oval" out of the box, so installer needed to modify a bit by putting a truly round "collar" over it, but it ends up looking exactly like stock set up when done, no one would notice, except for the morel logo).
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First thing I noticed on my '13, with the 130, and U connect Alpine system, was the mids sounded flat, and the highs were virtually non existant. I replaced the tweeters in the tombstones with a pair of Alpine SPS-110TW. After removing them from the housings they came installed in, I removed the OEM tweeters from the tombstones, and the new Alpines fit right into the OEM housings. I used some double sided tape along the sides of the tweeters (thin strips), to aid in holding them in place. I did not use the crossover that came with them. This was a dramatic improvement, however, the rear still sounded flat. I replaced the speakers in the sound bar with the Polk Audio DB651 (non shallow mount), and after messing around with the adapter, I was able to find a way to mount them with the OEM grills. Sound, once again, was improved. After messing with the bass/midrange/treble settings, I am happy enough with the sound, that I dont think any further mods can be done to improve it, aside from a full HU/Amp/ more speakers. The sound is on par (better actually) than the OEM system in my Accord.....which I thought was pretty dam good for an OEM system. The highs are crisp, with clear, and precise midrange.
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Wtf are you talking about
Jeep owners love their vehicles as much or more than any other group of owners I have seen, and offer many different takes on what's "normal" and what's not.

I just like reading the back and forth, nothing less, nothing more.
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I have an '11 JKU with the Infinity premium 430N with UConnect. It's been my experience that the system is average...not the worst I've heard, but not the best for an "upgrade premium" sound. However, I really do like the hands free integration for making/receiving calls and voice commands. That is why I will not mess with replacing the stock HU, despite the NAV being older generation technology.

Bottom line- it works for me. Maybe someday if/when I blow the speakers, I'll do the Polk upgrade. I have Polk in my home theater system and I am a huge fan of their speakers...very clear mid range and highs (listen to a lot of guitar/classic and alternative rock).

Which begs the question: Could it be our tastes in speakers and sound quality are aligned to the TYPE of music we listen to? I could see how fans of hip hop/rap or commercial top 40 stuff would be disappointed with a stock system weak on bass, but for me (think Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam) the premium system works great for guitar!
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For the ones who replaced the stock speakers with the Polk was it worth it ? Will the stock HU drive the polks or is it a waste to put in the polks with the stock HU ?
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For the ones who replaced the stock speakers with the Polk was it worth it ? Will the stock HU drive the polks or is it a waste to put in the polks with the stock HU ?
I found them VERY much worth it. They seem to have a little more volume than the OEM speakers, so they are driven fine by the OEM head unit.
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I found them VERY much worth it. They seem to have a little more volume than the OEM speakers, so they are driven fine by the OEM head unit.
They are more efficient so they can be run with very little juice. They'll play louder compared to less efficient speakers, with the same wattage.
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The polks are 4 ohm and factory is 2, so they should be a little quieter. They make up for it because the polks are 2 way, and factory is just a woofer, so the polks are playing the highs more clearly which makes it seem louder. At least that was my hypothesis when I made the switch.
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The polks are 4 ohm and factory is 2, so they should be a little quieter. They make up for it because the polks are 2 way, and factory is just a woofer, so the polks are playing the highs more clearly which makes it seem louder. At least that was my hypothesis when I made the switch.
"Should be". However, if the Polks are more efficient, then that will negate the OHM rating. Before the swap, I would have the volume at 19 for a comfortable listening level when on the freeway, while after the swap, 16 is about the same level. I haven't performed any DB readings, so this is just "seat of the pants" type testing.
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When I swapped in my Kicker's, I noticed the biggest drop in volume at higher volumes...specifically bass....the stock speakers "hit" a lot harder than the Kickers. That is where the 2 ohm vs 4 ohm issue played out.
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Old 07-20-2013, 03:56 PM   #84
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What I would really like is an aftermarket android head unit I could add to my 4g plan with built in Google Now voice activation and Google Maps Navigation - why does no one make this yet?
I found a YouTube video of a Nexus 7 tablet installed into a Dodge. I'm now interested in the under seat sub.

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For the ones who replaced the stock speakers with the Polk was it worth it ? Will the stock HU drive the polks or is it a waste to put in the polks with the stock HU ?
I have the 730 RER and I replaced the stock speakers with Polks in the dash and the soundbar and poly-filled them all too. I think the sound is much better. I had a 12 JKUR with the Infinity sound system and when I swapped for a 10A (like a brat) I thought the Alpine sytem sounded muddy and lacked bass as well. To me it seems like the amp is either weak or the Head unit software is really dampening the sound. Even after replacing the speaker and poly-filling the sound was still not where I wanted it. The satellite radio did sound worlds better, but I was still dissatisfied with how my Iphone sounded playing through the speakers. I wasn't going to pay big $$$ to replace any more components so I started hunting for solutions.

I came across an app called Equalizer (it was $3, I think) that lets you tweak the bass, treble, midrange and multiple other elements of the sound prior to it going into the HU. I had tried to do this with the Iphones native EQ settings and never got the results I wanted. This app is also unique because it has the ability to boost or lower the pre-amp output better than just playing with the Iphone's volume. It has a bunch of preset EQ settings but you can also create and save your own. After playing with it for a while I found that tweaking various preset EQ settings I could boost the bass and the volume significantly. While this was very noticeable as I played the Iphone thru the HU via bluetooth, the volume and bass boosted even more when I connected via the aux audio input jack on the HU. The bummer was that I got none of these results thru the USB input (bummer because it was nice ot have my phone charge while it played). The cool thing is that the amp also has a built in limiter that prevents you from blowing out your speakers--it judges the quality of the track, your pre-amp volume setting, and your selected EQ settings and will automatically lower the pre-amp so your system is not in jeopardy of blowing out.

Nowadays, I roll with the top and doors off and my tunes are loud and clear and my bass has far more thump. I listen to all kinds of music and can honestly say it helps across the board.I have had the most success making my own settings based off of Equalizers "Xtreme" preset EQ setting and the "Bass Boost" setting. Hint ---each time you switch from one EQ setting to another, reset the pre-amp volume because some EQ presets can hanlde more pre-amp than others.

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For the ones who replaced the stock speakers with the Polk was it worth it ? Will the stock HU drive the polks or is it a waste to put in the polks with the stock HU ?
You'll notice a difference for sure and it will sound better.

With that said the factory units have $@$& for power. Its terrible at best. To really make the speakers sound as good as they can you'll want more power to them. I replaced the stock head unit and didn't look back.
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You'll notice a difference for sure and it will sound better.

With that said the factory units have $@$& for power. Its terrible at best. To really make the speakers sound as good as they can you'll want more power to them. I replaced the stock head unit and didn't look back.
Agreed. Not one piece of the stock equipment is any good. It's just stuff that was thrown together as cheaply as possible to make it adequate for most people. Audiophiles will rip it all out anyway.
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I have the 2013 Alpine system and don't think it is that bad, this is a Jeep and I didn't expect the system to be all that great, I am thinking the Jeep is not designed for a great stereo system. I am not planning any upgrades at this time.
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I have the 2013 Alpine system and don't think it is that bad, this is a Jeep and I didn't expect the system to be all that great, I am thinking the Jeep is not designed for a great stereo system. I am not planning any upgrades at this time.
Forgot to say, really don't care for the rear sub, thinking of getting the plastic from a non Alpine unit and replacing it.
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I just got my first Jeep JK 2014 to replace a 10 year old Freelander. Got the stock unit with the U connect and the dreadful Sirius (really does sound like shit). My Rover had a Harman Kardon System that was absolutely great, better even than the Premium Upgrade on my BMW. Love my jeep, seriously, I can't see myself not having a jeep now LOL, but the sound system sucks. I mean to me it is really bad, sure it plays music but I didn't get the upgrade so I have no bass to speak of and the rest of the system does not offset the loss. I like the functionality of the head unit, plus the fact that most thieves wouldn't give a second glance, but will definitely be getting replacement speakers, for sure a under-seat sub for at least some bass and toying with the idea of an amp. Have to tread lightly as I have the wifey scrutinizing my mods already. Guess she already had enough of the mods I made to my Z Nice place you guys have here, think I am going to hang out a bit

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