Frameless top? - Jeep Wrangler Forum
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK Jeep Wrangler Forum > JK General Discussion Forum

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Reply
 
Thread Tools

Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about them on WranglerForum.com
Old 11-12-2013, 07:08 AM   #1
Jeeper
 
SaharaSamantha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 269
Frameless top?

I'm wanting a frameless top because the hardware that I have now is rusted and pieces are breaking off right and left. Are frameless tops a bad idea? Are they just a sturdy as the ones with hardware?

SaharaSamantha is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 07:59 AM   #2
The Bad Guy

WF Supporting Member
 
daggo66's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ exile living in Baltimore
Posts: 22,209
The frameless tops are very popular. The fastback window look is very nice as well. Don't forget to check the for sale sections of all the jeep forums as well as craigslist. People are always selling brand new soft tops with all the parts.

__________________
Tom

"I've got two things in this world, my balls and my word and I don't break them for no one."
daggo66 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 08:26 AM   #3
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 174
I liked my trektop till I took it off last month. The zippers just about ate through my roll bar padding
JK NOOB is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 09:40 AM   #4
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 73
JK NOOB- got pix?? Really looking at getting myself one of those tops as a birthday present for next summer.
kernsy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 09:42 AM   #5
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jp2611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Wayne IN
Posts: 6,248
not the exact same since you have JKU but here is mine on the TJ
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN0089.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	153.9 KB
ID:	506426  
jp2611 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 10:08 AM   #6
rabbits eat lettuce

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
tabber02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: left coast, florida
Posts: 11,160
here's a picture of my buddy's JKU with a trektop. looks great. I've had one on my JK for almost 2 years. it has held up pretty well with all the crap I put it through....
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image.jpg
Views:	174
Size:	116.4 KB
ID:	506514  
__________________
-bob

2010 JK - Mountain Edition
i spend way too much money on it... that's all


Do you like bacon? I do too, but only supporting members really like bacon, so.... Support the WranglerForum, you spend enough time here! Click here to find out how to become a Supporting Member...


Do it! DO IT NOW!!!!!
tabber02 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 10:18 AM   #7
Jeeper
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Montebello, CA
Posts: 75
epreza50 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 10:55 AM   #8
Jeeper
 
SaharaSamantha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by tabber02 View Post
here's a picture of my buddy's JKU with a trektop. looks great. I've had one on my JK for almost 2 years. it has held up pretty well with all the crap I put it through....
That's the exact top I want
SaharaSamantha is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 11:01 AM   #9
rabbits eat lettuce

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
tabber02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: left coast, florida
Posts: 11,160
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaharaSamantha View Post
That's the exact top I want
trektop NX... and his, like yours and mine... is rescue green - so you got a good look at what it's going to look like on your rig...

__________________
-bob

2010 JK - Mountain Edition
i spend way too much money on it... that's all


Do you like bacon? I do too, but only supporting members really like bacon, so.... Support the WranglerForum, you spend enough time here! Click here to find out how to become a Supporting Member...


Do it! DO IT NOW!!!!!
tabber02 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 11:11 AM   #10
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Gainesville, Fl
Posts: 952
Trektop NX...it has pluses and minuses. If you like to take the top completely down like the factory top, you won't like it. If you just want to take the windows out and not put the top down, you will be ok. The windows can be a pain to zip up. Because there is no frame everything fits very tightly together. The NX does have a "sunrider" so you can fold the front part of the top back to get open air, but again, to completely put it down you have to remove it.

I like the factory tops because they are easier to completely drop down, and if you get caught in a rain storm its easy to put them back up. I drop my top all the time, sometimes a few times a day depending on the weather. Rain storms pup unexpectedly all the time in Florida.

Your best bet is to due some research. I bet you can find a used factory top in good condition for less than a new Trek top. I'm not familiar with the JKU but the 2 door model has had some changes to the door surrounds, so make sure whatever top you buy is compatible with those surrounds.
Espo78 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 11:19 AM   #11
Jeeper
 
SaharaSamantha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by tabber02 View Post
trektop nx... :d and his, like yours and mine... Is rescue green - so you got a good look at what it's going to look like on your rig...
love it
SaharaSamantha is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 11:20 AM   #12
Jeeper
 
SaharaSamantha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 269
Quote:
Originally Posted by Espo78 View Post
Trektop NX...it has pluses and minuses. If you like to take the top completely down like the factory top, you won't like it. If you just want to take the windows out and not put the top down, you will be ok. The windows can be a pain to zip up. Because there is no frame everything fits very tightly together. The NX does have a "sunrider" so you can fold the front part of the top back to get open air, but again, to completely put it down you have to remove it. I like the factory tops because they are easier to completely drop down, and if you get caught in a rain storm its easy to put them back up. I drop my top all the time, sometimes a few times a day depending on the weather. Rain storms pup unexpectedly all the time in Florida. Your best bet is to due some research. I bet you can find a used factory top in good condition for less than a new Trek top. I'm not familiar with the JKU but the 2 door model has had some changes to the door surrounds, so make sure whatever top you buy is compatible with those surrounds.
Okay thank you!
SaharaSamantha is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-12-2013, 11:27 AM   #13
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jp2611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Wayne IN
Posts: 6,248
I have a TJ also have a JK and JKU......but to keep it simple......The JKU has HT so forget about it.

The JK has factory ST and the Sunrider works fine...and rarely around here do we drop the whole top (lots of pop up showers and 50° nights).

The TJ had a factory top. I replaced with a Half top to gain the sunrider..it was okay but noisy. I replaced with a Frameless NX and am so Happy..I frequently run with just sunrider open on 50° DAYS when there is sunshine, in the summer I pull the 3 windows out and leave them out, and use a duster and windjammer to keep MOST of the rain out and it is plenty warm. If I am going to be wheeling all day, I undo 2 straps, and the header latches and the top is off and under the duster.

Now granted you will not have all those options to begin with right from the start, (would need to buy a jammer and duster and duster exstension for JKU)..but the sunrider can be used with all the windows out, which from the driver's seat feels topless. Will need to tighten up the straps is all.

One word of caution if your Jeep is "lifted" more than a couple inches, the zippers are tough along the rollbar.

IMO it is the best ST available...but for now the JKU still has HT and the JK still has factory top...only the TJ has the Frameless. Good LUCK!!
jp2611 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 05:11 AM   #14
Jeeper
 
kcasey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Georgia
Posts: 252
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by jp2611 View Post

One word of caution if your Jeep is "lifted" more than a couple inches, the zippers are tough along the rollbar.

!!
How does the jeep being lifted, affect the zipers?
__________________
"Drive it like u stole it"
3" Lift 35x12.5R17 Toyo MT's on MickyThompson classic II, 5.13 YukonGears/Eaton Lockers Front&Back, PS BFH Front Bumper&JK Disco Skid,PS Front Diff Cover,OffRoad Lights. Rugged Ridge Heavy Duty 8500 Winch.
kcasey is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 06:42 AM   #15
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jp2611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Wayne IN
Posts: 6,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcasey View Post
How does the jeep being lifted, affect the zipers?

Yeah that does sound funny
...but I am right at 6' and my Tj has about 3.5-4" of lift and sitting on 33"s.

It is tough to start the zippers when standing flat footed in the grass, but if I stand in the driveway, I can barely reach the top of roll bars which is where the zippers line up...too much lift and tires makes it tough to put on windows...and I have to stand on the rails to use sun-rider.....
jp2611 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 07:01 AM   #16
Jeeper
 
kcasey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Georgia
Posts: 252
Images: 2
so its not the lift, but the lack of lift on YOU. use a step stool.
__________________
"Drive it like u stole it"
3" Lift 35x12.5R17 Toyo MT's on MickyThompson classic II, 5.13 YukonGears/Eaton Lockers Front&Back, PS BFH Front Bumper&JK Disco Skid,PS Front Diff Cover,OffRoad Lights. Rugged Ridge Heavy Duty 8500 Winch.
kcasey is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 07:36 AM   #17
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Virginia W of DC
Posts: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcasey View Post
so its not the lift, but the lack of lift on YOU. use a step stool.
One of the hitch steps works great for this--it is very difficult to get the zippers moving from the ground.
taterhed is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 07:38 AM   #18
Jeeper
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Virginia W of DC
Posts: 74
I have an LJ with an early bestop nx. Not sure if it's the same on the JK, but the early series NX on the LJ is a pain.

Avoid an older one as well; they are very tight and get hard to open/close with age.
taterhed is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 10:12 AM   #19
Jeeper

WF Supporting Member
 
jp2611's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Fort Wayne IN
Posts: 6,248
Quote:
Originally Posted by kcasey View Post
so its not the lift, but the lack of lift on YOU. use a step stool.
If you want to haul a step stool and need to put the top up 'cause of rain, or going on vaca and taking windows with you as well pack your step stool...I agree that there are ways to get around it but some people don't want that added issue and with me being right at 6' I consider my self about average height and my Jeep with average lift...just a caution to those who may not know.....
Quote:
Originally Posted by taterhed View Post
One of the hitch steps works great for this--it is very difficult to get the zippers moving from the ground.
IDk so I am asking...how does the HITCH step help start the zippers on a frameless that start above the door surround/ back window leading edge area? Is this one of those that can go over the "tire" and be moved around?

I usually stand on the back bumper to start the zippers that meet the back window....
jp2611 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 11:42 AM   #20
ExtremeTerrain.com Sponsoring Vendor
 
XTRyan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Malvern, PA
Posts: 2,701
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaharaSamantha View Post
I'm wanting a frameless top because the hardware that I have now is rusted and pieces are breaking off right and left. Are frameless tops a bad idea? Are they just a sturdy as the ones with hardware?
From my experience the frameless tops are just as sturdy and quiet as the framed soft tops. of course the quality of the top will greatly effect the sturdyness of the zippers and other attachment points, and also the wind noise.

Best Top NX tops are really top of the line. They feature a high quality fabric, top arch bar system, polymer door surrounds and tinted windows and a built-in sunroof. You really can't go wrong! With the forum discount of 6% this would run you about $677 to your door.

Let me know if you have any questions at all!

-Ryan
__________________
Ryan H. | ExtremeTerrain.com Off-Road Outfitters
Toll Free: 800-988-4605 | Mon-Fri 10AM-6PM EST
Free Shipping on Orders Over $75!
EARN UP TO $200 TOWARD YOUR NEXT PURCHASE!
PM me for our WranglerForum Discount Code (must have 25 posts) or Price-Matching!
GET YOUR FREE JEEP PARTS CATALOG!
XTRyan is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 12:18 PM   #21
Jeeper
 
rockabillyroy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 158
I've got the trektop nx on 33.5s tires with a 2.5" lift.

I just got a spiderweb shade to go along with it when I flip the front open. Unfortunately, they both use the same space around the sound bar, so there's a little offset.

Standing at 5'9", it's still pretty easy to pop on and off the window panels. Remember to wrap around the leading edge of the side windows into that U channel. Makes a difference.
The one one thing I'd have to say be wary of is storage. Take your time and store the rear window.

Mine is all scratched up and I can't see out of it for crap when the sun is behind me or at night.
rockabillyroy is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-18-2013, 12:19 PM   #22
Jeeper
 
Jeeps_and_Boats's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Washington State
Posts: 503
Mine is for sale in the "for sale" section.

PM me if anyone is interested in a basically new top.
__________________
Building and managing websites with the Umbraco CMS
Jeeps_and_Boats is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-20-2013, 07:47 PM   #23
Jeeper
 
SaharaSamantha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 269
whats the difference between the Bestop Trektop NX in black diamond and the Bestop Trektop NX Twill soft top? Anyone have one that they prefer over the other?
SaharaSamantha is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Old 11-20-2013, 07:49 PM   #24
rabbits eat lettuce

WF Supporting Member
::WF Moderator::
 
tabber02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: left coast, florida
Posts: 11,160
if I'm not mistaken - just the color. go with black diamond!

__________________
-bob

2010 JK - Mountain Edition
i spend way too much money on it... that's all


Do you like bacon? I do too, but only supporting members really like bacon, so.... Support the WranglerForum, you spend enough time here! Click here to find out how to become a Supporting Member...


Do it! DO IT NOW!!!!!
tabber02 is offline   Quote Quick Reply
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Download our Mobile App

» Featured Product

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:44 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC