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Old 07-25-2014, 12:02 AM   #1
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Freedom panel question

This might be a dumb question but is it possible to over tighten the 2 large screws that go into roll bar? Is there a way to know when it's tight enough?

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Yes, guys comment that when they over tighten the bolts the panels will leak. Solid snugging is sufficient.

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Old 07-25-2014, 12:38 AM   #3
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Thanks! I took them off for the first time the other day and was concerned I over tightened one if them but it seems to be fine.
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Lots of people leave the bolts out altogether. The only time they NEED to be in is when you are running in reverse Sunrider, where you leave the freedom panels in and take off the back of the hard top. The bolts are needed then to keep the panels from lifting.
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:06 AM   #5
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Lots of people leave the bolts out altogether. The only time they NEED to be in is when you are running in reverse Sunrider, where you leave the freedom panels in and take off the back of the hard top. The bolts are needed then to keep the panels from lifting.
Exactly. I only had mine in when the top was brand new. Never put them back in after first freedom panel removal with no leaks.
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Well its good to know that you don't need them. That's the longest part of taking the panels off.

Since we are on the subject of the panels.
Where do y'all keep them when not on the jeep?
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Old 07-25-2014, 04:21 AM   #7
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I just got a couple of ladder type hooks from Northern tool and mounted them on garage wall. I then store them vertically when not in use. With the hard top off for summer I have a Lange hoist and store theFT's on top of the hard top.
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What about in the jeep? I have been laying them in the cargo area. But they slide. The weather here can change so quickly that I like the have them with me just in case.
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I have the freedom top panel bag,it straps to the back of the rear seat.
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I have the freedom top panel bag,it straps to the back of the rear seat.
Unless you take the headrests out so you can see out your rear window, like I did. Discovered that the a few weeks ago when I went to take them with me since there was a 40% chance of showers.
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Since I take mine off and on almost daily (work's parking lot is a dustbowl so I put them on when I get to work) I leave them laying flat in the cargo area in the back with the freedom panel bag in between them (only real use I've found for that bag) mine never slide around, but I did flip the cargo area carpet over so its the rubber side up...
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If you lift up the cargo mat in the back to get to the jack storage, there are slots for organizing all the bolts you take out when you take the top and doors off. Most are labeled (hinges, roof) but there is a large unlabeled cup, which I think is meant for storing the freedom bolts.

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Nice, now they don't have to occupy the glove box
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Nice, now they don't have to occupy the glove box
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Yeah, I always put mine back in whenever i put the panels back on.
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Maybe I'll flip the mat over and see how that works.
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Old 07-25-2014, 01:27 PM   #17
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Hmmm..... Dang I have been removing/reinstalling mine each time. May try just leaving them out next time too. Seemed like the most time consuming part of the process, that and mabe the bag.
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I lay mine in the cargo area. I have a rubber mat so they don't slide around. I put the first panel on the rubber mat then I lay the storage bag on top of the first panel. I lay the second panel on top of the storage bag. It's a fairly quick process.
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If you lift up the cargo mat in the back to get to the jack storage, there are slots for organizing all the bolts you take out when you take the top and doors off. Most are labeled (hinges, roof) but there is a large unlabeled cup, which I think is meant for storing the freedom bolts.

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Just went into the garage tried to put the screw top in that little cubby
NOPE they don't fit together only one fits
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I didn't think they would fit. But wanted to check before I said something.
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You're getting Warmer.... Lift your tray and put them here. You get your glove box bak and they stay put

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Good idea rubiconss and for those who don't like rattles haha put them in purple royal crown pouches
Keep my change in them for parking meters
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Love those CR "purple" pouches (I have a few) when you put the tray back down the large previously cited "cubbie" keeps they screws pretty tightly nestled to the Right. I am a rattle loon and haven't heard mine. Good place to keep a microfiber though, they always come in handy.
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You're getting Warmer.... Lift your tray and put them here. You get your glove box bak and they stay put
Ah, sweet! I've been just sticking them in the cup holders and glaring at them in annoyance, but this is the perfect spot. Good call!
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Right you are rubiconss
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Oh and to increase rear view if your back seat is still in I took rear head rests off and put them in the large cubby that way when kids ride simple just pop them back on
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Glad I could help
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If you lift up the cargo mat in the back to get to the jack storage, there are slots for organizing all the bolts you take out when you take the top and doors off. Most are labeled (hinges, roof) but there is a large unlabeled cup, which I think is meant for storing the freedom bolts.

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Well I'll be buggered.
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You're getting Warmer.... Lift your tray and put them here. You get your glove box bak and they stay put

Good call, Rubi! I have a soft top, so I didn't realize they wouldn't both fit in the cup. I don't pay enough attention to where Mike puts his when he takes his panels out. LOL
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i put mine in the back with a towel in between then I strap them to the floor...when you put them back on make sure the seals are clean all around and make sure you dont slide them on..set them into the seals and make sure it is flush with the top and header all around..most leaks are caused by dirty seals, tops not sitting flush all around and then the pesky bolts too tight..I run with out the screws all the time...no leaks
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