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Old 08-22-2013, 12:16 AM   #1
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Freedom Tops

I just got a Rubicon with the hardtop. Was wondering if you can remove only the 2 freedom tops from the front and leave the rear bolted on and run like that?

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Old 08-22-2013, 01:06 AM   #2
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Yes, you absolutely can.

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Yep, I do it all the time!

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Yep. In fact, you can run any combo. I run with just the front panels on to keep the sun off most of the time.
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I just got a Rubicon with the hardtop. Was wondering if you can remove only the 2 freedom tops from the front and leave the rear bolted on and run like that?
You've already heard all the Yes's, but no one has filled in the blank that it's what the freedom top was designed to do. Allows you the function of a hard top with the "freedom" to remove the front panels and enjoy an open air experience.

You'll notice that the freedom top bag has a strap with clip. This is so you can remove the freedom tops, put them in the carrier and use the strap to store them vertically behind the rear seats to take with you.
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Old 08-22-2013, 07:22 PM   #6
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Anybody know any way to secure the FT bag in a 2dr JK with the rear seat folded up?

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:18 AM   #7
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Dang I didn't know it was designed to store vertically behind the rear seats. I have been rustling it underneath my golf clubs all this time. Anyone got a pick of them stowed like this, or is it in the manual?

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You've already heard all the Yes's, but no one has filled in the blank that it's what the freedom top was designed to do. Allows you the function of a hard top with the "freedom" to remove the front panels and enjoy an open air experience.

You'll notice that the freedom top bag has a strap with clip. This is so you can remove the freedom tops, put them in the carrier and use the strap to store them vertically behind the rear seats to take with you.
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Old 08-23-2013, 09:46 AM   #8
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Dang I didn't know it was designed to store vertically behind the rear seats. I have been rustling it underneath my golf clubs all this time. Anyone got a pick of them stowed like this, or is it in the manual?
Put the strap around the headrests of the rear seats. There is also a couple of clips on the bottom of that bag that if I remember correctly, attach to the child seat clips on the floor.
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Sweet. Learn something new everyday

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Put the strap around the headrests of the rear seats. There is also a couple of clips on the bottom of that bag that if I remember correctly, attach to the child seat clips on the floor.
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Old 08-23-2013, 10:01 AM   #10
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The Freedom tops come with two screws. I put them back in once then never again. I guess I shouldn't be so lazy but I seem to be doing fine without them in.
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If I were the OP, I'd be a bit upset that the salesperson didn't clue him in on this basic feature (if not major selling point) of his Jeep.

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If I were the OP, I'd be a bit upset that the salesperson didn't clue him in on this basic feature (if not major selling point) of his Jeep.

ENJOY!!!
Exactly! My salesman showed me this and took it off for the test ride. He thought he was going with when I shook my head no and said I was going alone. He said he had to talk to his manager but I already did :-) He tucked his tail between his legs and I went for a nice ride alone!

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I don't like the way they block your rear view though, or am I stowing them wrong?
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The Freedom tops come with two screws. I put them back in once then never again. I guess I shouldn't be so lazy but I seem to be doing fine without them in.
Mine have been under the rear seat for months. They're unnecessary.
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If I were the OP, I'd be a bit upset that the salesperson didn't clue him in on this basic feature (if not major selling point) of his Jeep.

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I did ask my salesman (which I don't think is up to snuff on Jeeps) and he said that you shouldn't drive in that config. Hence the reason I asked the question in a forum of Jeep enthusiasts.
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I did ask my salesman (which I don't think is up to snuff on Jeeps) and he said that you shouldn't drive in that config. Hence the reason I asked the question in a forum of Jeep enthusiasts.
Ya your salesperson is clueless!

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:21 PM   #17
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Put the strap around the headrests of the rear seats. There is also a couple of clips on the bottom of that bag that if I remember correctly, attach to the child seat clips on the floor.
I never knew that, I always thought the bag was worthless, but it serves a function. I was thinking of building a shelf in the back to store the tops flat and still have general storage on top.
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Mine have been under the rear seat for months. They're unnecessary.
If I go thru a car wash without the screws, it leaks. Just a thought
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I don't like the way they block your rear view though, or am I stowing them wrong?
Do you have the strap around the headrest? Mine doesn't stick up any higher than the third tail light.
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Mine doesn't stick up any higher than the third tail light.
Same here. When they are in, push the bottom of the bag against the seat back. They will sit at the same angle as the seat. Clip the clip to the floor child seat anchor and they won't move.
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Same here. When they are in, push the bottom of the bag against the seat back. They will sit at the same angle as the seat. Clip the clip to the floor child seat anchor and they won't move.
It's still a huge PIA trying to get them into the bag. Looking for a lazier, I mean easier solution!
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It's still a huge PIA trying to get them into the bag. Looking for a lazier, I mean easier solution!
There are other bags out there from quadratech and what. They are a pain but still better than the 70s trans ams and corvettes. =). Could always leave them in the garage on the workbench.
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Here's how the storage bags are designed to fit behind the rear seats.

Note how the two clips attach at child seat anchors.

Shouldn't block view any more than rear head rests or tail light.
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Here's how the storage bags are designed to fit behind the rear seats.

Note how the two clips attach at child seat anchors.

Shouldn't block view any more than rear head rests or tail light.
When I set my bag up like that it sat way higher then the headrests. Clipped and everything. Nice to have that option though. Thanks for the picture!
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Yep. In fact, you can run any combo. I run with just the front panels on to keep the sun off most of the time.
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If you run like this don't forget to flip the black clips. Otherwise you will screw you big bolts through the top.
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It turns out there was enough slack in the straps that the bag was not flush against the seat and sat up a bit higher. I snugged it all down and the bag works as intended. Can see out the back no problem now. Thanks again!
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If I go thru a car wash without the screws, it leaks. Just a thought
I notice a little more road/wind noise on mine when the screws are out.
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Do i need to put the screws back in when just running with FT and no top?
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Do i need to put the screws back in when just running with FT and no top?
If running just the panels and no rear piece you need the screws but if you are just running the back or running the back and the panels they aren't needed

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