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Old 09-17-2011, 06:21 AM   #1
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Front axle seal leaking

I took my Jeep to the dealer yesterday to confirm what I thought was a seal leaking from my left front axle.Sure enough it was. Only 43000 miles and never off road. Thought it should have last longer, but it still has to be repaired. The dealer said it is about a 3 & 1/2 hour job, and would cost $412 to repaired and that he would pay for the alignment which would have been another $59. This sounds fair to me but I was wondering if anyone else has had this repaired done and is this a fair price.

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Old 09-17-2011, 09:30 AM   #2
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Im not following you??? I already replaced the front axle sleeve on my JK for a worn yoke and there are no fluids there that could cause a leak.Are you referring to the front differential??Just trying to help you out seems alot and if its the diff its really easy to take the pumpkin off and reseal it yourself for a few bucks.

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Diff fluid does flow into the axle tubes while driving. I had a leak in my front passenger side axle, which was fixed under warranty so I don't know how much it costs. Again now I'm seeing very small leakage from both ends of my front axle, but I don't think it's bad enough to warrant the cost of repair. I just keep an eye on my diff fluid level.
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:26 PM   #4
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If I was even thinking about the possibility of doing a regear in the near future--


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I took my Jeep to the dealer yesterday to confirm what I thought was a seal leaking from my left front axle.Sure enough it was. Only 43000 miles and never off road. Thought it should have last longer, but it still has to be repaired. The dealer said it is about a 3 & 1/2 hour job, and would cost $412 to repaired and that he would pay for the alignment which would have been another $59. This sounds fair to me but I was wondering if anyone else has had this repaired done and is this a fair price.
I would just live with the leak untill then, because-

When I did my regearing I also put in new SYNERGY ball joints and axle seals, because every thing has to be torn apart--ANYWAY !!

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Old 12-21-2011, 12:46 AM   #5
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I've just had my front axle seals replaced. I was told they were leaking. The job cost me $484.86.
Not so funny thing is that I was going through some of my old repair receipts and I found that I had the same job done, at the same dealership, just 2 ys and 10 mos and 11,919 mi ago.
What the hell? Did I just get cheated? Does someone owe me a refund?
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Old 12-21-2011, 01:05 AM   #6
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That is close to a couple of quotes that I got too. I ended up having a local shop do the job for $180. Shop around because the dealer and other shops over-charge for this simple service. I would have tackled it myself but did not want the mess and time. They do this type of thing every day so the chance that they will screw it up is a lot less than if I do it.
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Old 12-22-2011, 04:17 AM   #7
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and that's the question -- did they screw it up the first time? I'm gonna try to get my money back for the first job. For that kind of $$$, I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect a job to last longer than 3 years. Especially since I'm my Jeep's sole driver and am very conscientious about good care.
Wish me luck and thank you, tjt94, for the input!
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Old 12-22-2011, 09:52 AM   #8
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Since it was three years ago that you had the service done, it is doubtful that they screwed it up. The seal that is leaking is installed inside the banjo and the axel goes through it. If they screw it up, they usually pinch the seal lip and the leak is obvious from the get go. Hey's your good luck wish.
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good to know -- I really do appreciate a little schooling on this prob. Is this something that has to be done often then? My owner's manual doesn't mention it not even once. I haven't complained yet to the dealership, maybe I have nothing to complain about? Any advice would be of value.
You've probably figured out by now that I'm pretty clueless about this. I just don't want them to think they can take advantage. I think I already single-handedly support all the mechanics over there with all the money I spend on expensive repairs anyway. I wonder sometimes if I'm just their favorite mark!?!
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Old 12-27-2011, 08:40 AM   #10
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It is not something that has to be done often, only when it starts to leak. It may never leak again. Good luck on finding the right shop.
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It's important that ALL SEALS "SEAL", but

The front axle seals are not as important as the rear axle seals, so

Unless you're doing "A LOTTA" driving/turning in 4wd, the seals should hold for over 50k miles-

Why are you getting an alignment ?? any alignment check after the axle/knuckle removal should be free, unless you change ball joints, there shouldn't be any change in the alignment specs and if there is--they can't do anything except alter the toe-in (5 minutes work)-

I'd either go to a better shop, or have a friend that KNOWS something about solid axles (FRONT), go with you !!

Other than looking "BAD" and making a SLOW mess, you could live with a leaking bad front seal for 25K miles, just checking/add front diff. fluid NOW and THEN !

Good luck--find a friend with some savy !

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I just noticed on another thread that someone from NJ says
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Just wanted to leave a big thank you to tjt94 and JIMBOX. Armed with your info, I was able to get a refund (although it is in credit) from my dealership. Moral of the story -- The squeaky (and polite and respectful) wheel got the grease. Thanks a bunch!
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Old 05-16-2012, 08:17 AM   #14
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I just got a new driveway so it is very noticeable when i have a leak. I notice that my front passenger axel leaking so took it to the dealership last friday. They said they replaced the axel seal cover (or something like that). Last night i found it leaking again so it's back to the dealership. This is a 2011 Wrangler w/ 17k miles and 4wd drive has never been used. Should i be concerned that this will be an ongoing problem? I keep my vehicles for 10+ yrs so hopefully this is just a fluke.
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Old 05-18-2012, 02:44 AM   #15
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Hi tink43 --
I don't want to jinx myself, but after my 2nd seal fix things seem to be okay. I, too, like to drive the same car 'til the wheels fall off. My jeep is a '95. This problem didn't show up for me 'til it was already 14 years old. I think, though, that maybe it's just a complicated job and even for an experienced mechanic things can happen.
One other thing -- you say you don't use your 4WD. I was told that you should put it in 4X at least once a month. It's a "use it or lose it" kind of thing.
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Old 05-21-2012, 08:38 AM   #16
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Took it back to dealer and they replaced all 3 seals. It is back in the shop again today.....still leaking....uggghhhh.....this is getting very tiresome.
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My JKUR is almost 4 yrs old and I use 4hi/4lo generally twice a week and there has never been an axle leak--

If the front axle is OVERFILLED-then internal (heat) pressure will cause AXLE BREATHER BLEED and sometimes fluid pushed out the seals--

Another sad cause of front AXLE SEAL DEGRADE is excessive ball joint wear !

Checkitout, if the Ball Joints are failing and they keep replacing the axle seals-

Kinda like shoveling shit against the tide !

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Wow, search is your friend. I was going to start a new thread about this topic. My 2011 JKUR, Auto, 17,000 miles, is at the dealership right now. I had the lift put on Wednesday and they told me that the Ball joint on the passenger side was loose and that the axle seal on the passenger side was leaking. So I went from the 4X4 place to the dealership yesterday. They checked it out today and claim that the ball joint movement is within specs. However, they are replacing the axle seal tomorrow under warranty.
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2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Axle Bleed?

I drive a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. It has less than 10,000 miles on it. I noticed a small leak under the drivers side/front axle/tire and reading all of these posts regarding the front axle being ovefilled and due to internal heat pressure the axle tends to bleed and and the excess fluids are pushed out of the seals. Is this true? Is this a problem that I need to have handled atthe dealership? I washed everything out under the jeep/axcle/wheel and it shows no sign of additional leak. Does anyone think that I need to have it looked at, or see the problem as "fixed" with the excess being pushed out of the seals due to the heat?
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I drive a 2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon. It has less than 10,000 miles on it. I noticed a small leak under the drivers side/front axle/tire and reading all of these posts regarding the front axle being ovefilled and due to internal heat pressure the axle tends to bleed and and the excess fluids are pushed out of the seals. Is this true? Is this a problem that I need to have handled atthe dealership? I washed everything out under the jeep/axcle/wheel and it shows no sign of additional leak. Does anyone think that I need to have it looked at, or see the problem as "fixed" with the excess being pushed out of the seals due to the heat?
We did the ball joints . I should have done the seals to but I did not.
For a day or two my right side leaked. Then stopped and been fine Since. Just keep an eye on it.

You can open the fill plug and check the level. If the diff is over filled it will come out some.
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Wow 500 bones to fix the seal on a JK!! This is a job that a good mec can do in two hours. And you dont have to get an aliment eather!
This is what you have to do to change one out.
Jack up jeep.
You have to do every thing twice since you do both side.
Pull tire off
Take brakes off
Use a 13mm 12 point socket to remove the bolts on the unit bearing(wheel bearing)
Unplug ABS wire.
Slide bearing and axle out of tube.
Now you take the diff cover off and break the bolts on the caps holding the carrier in. (unplug wire if its a rubi)
Pry diff out being careful to keep the shims in order.
Knock out bad seal , clean area and knock new one in.
Put carrier and shims back in just like you took them out.
Torque bolt caps to...... You will have to look it up casue im not 100% sure.
Replace axels breaks and tires.
Two hour job in a shop on a lift, or probly 4 hours if doing it in the driveway drinking a few cold ones.
Its really not that hard folks. You just have to be willing to do it. I know not everyone likes to wrench on things like the carrier. But if you do and you trust your self its an easy enough job. And yes I have done this my self, its not something that I copied and pasted off the net. Im sure the bad spelling and gramer proves it.
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Something that I didnt think about.... Iv only done this on two jeeps and both had RCV shafts in them witch slid through the knuckle. Not sure if the stock shafts will pass through or not. Even if they didnt it wouldnt take much longer to remove the knuckle.

But Im thinking they will go cause I dont ever ramember any wone talking about removing the knuckle to change out shafts.
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Bought a used 2007 Sahara on 7/2 with 33k on her and noticed a fluid on the front passanger side tire. Thought i ran through something so ilet it go for a few days until I noticed several small wet spots on my driveway. it appears the front axle seal is leaking. How do I know it's just the seal and not a bearing issue?
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Wow 500 bones to fix the seal on a JK!! This is a job that a good mec can do in two hours. And you dont have to get an aliment eather!
This is what you have to do to change one out.
Jack up jeep.
You have to do every thing twice since you do both side.
Pull tire off
Take brakes off
Use a 13mm 12 point socket to remove the bolts on the unit bearing(wheel bearing)
Unplug ABS wire.
Slide bearing and axle out of tube.
Now you take the diff cover off and break the bolts on the caps holding the carrier in. (unplug wire if its a rubi)
Pry diff out being careful to keep the shims in order.
Knock out bad seal , clean area and knock new one in.
Put carrier and shims back in just like you took them out.
Torque bolt caps to...... You will have to look it up casue im not 100% sure.
Replace axels breaks and tires.
Two hour job in a shop on a lift, or probly 4 hours if doing it in the driveway drinking a few cold ones.
Its really not that hard folks. You just have to be willing to do it. I know not everyone likes to wrench on things like the carrier. But if you do and you trust your self its an easy enough job. And yes I have done this my self, its not something that I copied and pasted off the net. Im sure the bad spelling and gramer proves it.
now I want to try fixing this myself instead of dropping the jeep at the dealer for six fricking days.
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Thinking to do this job by myself this weekend.. Already ordered and paid for both front seals... Btw, i only have problem with the passenger side, but i guess smart people should do both when you get there...

Seals costed me 57 cdn bucks... Not that cheap as i read somewhere in other threads, but hell... All parts are over priced here in Canada...

Oh btw, after i paid for the seals, i ask service dept how much and long to install the seals... They just limited to said, "this is a big job, might be 4 to 6 hrs"... Wtf..!!! Dealer dudes spend more time than forum people with probably limited tools to do this job..??

I didnt ask again for a price because they probably will come with a ridiculous non sense over price labor...
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Hey guys... Question... Do i have to worry about the BACKLASH at the moment to put everything back on..??

Im not going to change any part of the gear... Only replace the axle inner seals...
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At 16,000 miles I had a leaking rear main seal and leaking inner axle seal on the front passenger side, both were replaced under warranty. I've had several minor annoying issues, but hopefully they will all be fixed by the time the warranty runs out.
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Front tire axle inner seals leak - repair

Long story short:

a month ago i replaced my front tires U-joints, everything was good until two days ago i noticed an oil leak coming from the passenger side wheel.

After some research on the web to try to figure out what could caused this leak, it seems all routes lead to a damaged inner axle seal.

anyway, there is NO WAY i can afford to pay 500-600 bucks for such repair, soooooooo i decided to give a try ONCE AGAIN and do it myself with the help of some forum members who had the same or similar problems.

Here is what i did:

Got my 2 front tires axle inner seals, gear oil, RTV, break cleaner from my local dealer






I removed both driveshaft axles... if you don’t know how to do this, i recommend you to take a look HERE and HERE... you can also check my quote about how to change U-Joints HERE

Anyway, here is how bad WAS the leak:


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Old 06-15-2014, 01:10 AM   #29
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And here is how looked my working area:




Before you start with the mayor work... you have to remove the bar that show in the pic below:


Nothing complicated... just remove 1 bolt and 1 nut on each side:




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Here is the bar itself:


Alright..!!! after you clear up a little bit your working area by removing that bar, then proceed to remove the differential bolt to drain the oil...


Man..!!!! everything was perfect until i tried to remove 1 damage bolt head... Son of a B...!!!!!


I had to visit PrincessAuto.com store and buy some stuff to remove this damage bolt and some other stuff to make my job easier...


106 bucks for these things..!!!

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