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Old 11-12-2011, 02:48 PM   #1
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Question Front Grill Removal

I need to remove the grill to install the mesh on the inside. I read the OM on this and it says to remove these plastic fasteners by turning the counter clockwise 1/4 turn and remove. These of mine just seem to spin and never allow themselves to be easily removed. I don't want to destroy them if I don't have to.

These pics are of the fasteners on the top of my grill. Same as all you others ? Can someone explain exactly how to remove them ?
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:53 PM   #2
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Pry up on the round insert (the top part)...it will come about 1/2 way out (or all the way, doesn't matter). Then pry out the lower part. The top part "widens" the lower part when you put them back in, kind've like a sheetrock insert. To reinstall, push the top part only partway into the bottom part, then push the whole thing back into the hole.

It'll become obvious once you do it.

Turns, 1/4 or counter clockwise or whatever, have nothing to do with it.

I used a "V" shaped trim tool to do it, with a rag under the head of the tool so I didn't gouge the plastic grill.

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Old 11-12-2011, 02:56 PM   #3
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If they are really stuck in there you can a small drywall screw. Screw it in about 1/8" and then pull up the stem.
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Old 11-12-2011, 02:59 PM   #4
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If they're stubborn – before you go the sheetrock screw route – try pressing in on the grill a little bit. Mine came out very easily.
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Old 11-12-2011, 03:00 PM   #5
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On mine I turned it so the lower piece had the seam pointing front to back - not side to side, then popped it off:

Here is what the pieces and the hole looks like:


You’ll notice the hole is oblong and the inner piece is oblong. When you rotate the piece (per the manual) you get the correct alignment to remove the pieces without ruining them.
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OK...thanks you guys. Mine came out easily once I knew how to do it. I love this forum..I have now epoxied the plastic tabs down between the slots and once dry/set I'll secure the mesh down.

I can hardly believe the price differences for such kits at various places....some well over $100. Mine was about $35 from Amazon and it looks just fine as far as quality goes. The tabs to thread the zip ties thru come with sticky back but everyone says to used glue. I just happened to have fast setting epoxy.

Since I have new headlight bulbs on the way, I think I'll leave it all apart so I can install them. Should be here by Monday...
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Would you show us a close up pic of the install. I have black plastic grill inserts. They snap into place. Once in place they had tabs that protrude a tiny bit on the inside of the grill.

I wonder if the kit you have will fit flush OR will the tabs that protrude cause the mesh to sag/bow as it passes over the part of the tabs that protrude. I hope this males sense.

I could always try a "frame" to streach the mesh and do a stand off (about 1/4").....my other question is I wonnder how the mesh will hold up against snow-sleet-ice????? I have seen the kit and it does look great!
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I had to be kinda careful since the epoxy is not really set hard enough yet but here's the idea. The white tabs have hole that allow the ties to thread thru. You can use one tie to hold down sides of two panels sxs or one each. I happen to have a supply of more substantial ties so may use them as they are longer and thicker. I've threaded a couple as you can see. Once the ties are zipped tight I think there won't be any movement or problem. The ratings on the Amazon site are all pretty good except they tell you to be sure to glue these tabs down instead of relying on the sticky back. The mesh pieces are curved/domed and I"m presently not sure whether the dome needs to be up or down. I doubt it'll matter after the ties are tightened.
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Mark. Thanks a ton!!! That makes all the sense in the world now!!! MANY thanks for taking the time. It would work.

Now I'm thinking about gettig some mesh,.....its the clips that are the hard part. now I see why the kits are picked up.......yours looks good. I think thats going to hold up fine...Jim.
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Mark. Thanks a ton!!! That makes all the sense in the world now!!! MANY thanks for taking the time. It would work. Jim.
No problem, Amigo. Once it's set and I tie them all down I'll post another pic or two. The only thing I wish I'd done differently now is to put the ties thru the plastic tabs before glueing them down.. No big deal either way though.

My job may look a little sloppy in that the tabs moved slightly after I set them in epoxy. I guess they kinda 'slid down' a bit due to the angle/gravity. They still will work fine.
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Those guards are actually very functional. Next time you see a 3 year old JK without them look at the radiator, you can see exactly where the slots are because of all the little dents on the radiator.

Here's anther cheap way to do this. You can find this steel mesh at Home Depot, cut to size and screw it into the plastic part that surrounds the radiator. 4 self tappers with big washers, one in each corner. Yeah you are making holes that weren't there before but it's quick.

I used those white tabs at first but they all came loose after a while. Maybe the glue will help and your guards are a lot lighter.

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I actually looked for this expanded mesh in a lot of places...especially McMaster-Carr but could not find it with small enough open spaces to suit my needs.
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It stops the bigger rocks. I live in Colorado and they still use grit and not Mag Chroide (sp) on the reads in some counties.

This was my first go around, all the little tabs came loose so I doubled the number the second time and the same thing happened. You know what a PITA is it to thread all the little zip ties, so I said fawk it and screwed the mesh into the radiator surround, it's not going anywhere now

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Well, this is my first attempt. I hope it holds up but if it doesn't I'll figger something else out.
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I bought this. One piece grill, slotted so it stays in place with two backing bars that screw into the Jeep grill. It's pricey, and I had to bend the bars slightly to make them fit the way I wanted, but if the grill comes out it's cuz I got nailed by a semi.

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I should be pimping the grill inserts I sell but...

I'm cheap, even though I can get my own stuff for wholesale I like to tinker with stuff. Like my homemade crappy looking front winch bumper... but... it comes with a beer bottle opener


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Sorry for the thread hijack, but the OP's question was answered.
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Camping yes, I don't drink on trails, I'm bad enough sober . The real reason though is that my beer fridge in the garage is about where I am standing taking the picture. That is very strategic placement and actually gets used a lot

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