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Old 11-16-2011, 06:47 PM   #1
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Front lug nuts problems

I have a 2008 wrangler. I changed the rear brakes and was going to rotate the tires. When I went to break the front lugs, they were darn near impossible to break. I'm a relatively strong guy, and found it near impossible to get them off. One of them will not come off, it's pretty much seized on there. I'm the last one that rotated the tires and torqued all the lugs, front and rear the same, but all of the front ones somehow became ridiculously tight. Has anyone else had this issue or are you familiar with Chrysler recalling this?

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Old 11-16-2011, 07:01 PM   #2
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A 1/2 x 20 lug nut shouldn't be tightened beyond about 125 ft-lbs. Maybe you overtightened?

Don't know about the seizure, and can't really think of a way the lugs would've gotten tighter, to the point of being hard to remove, on their own.

Especially if it's just the front.

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impact gun?
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:21 PM   #5
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Probably impact gun the last time you got serviced - those really shouldn't be used but lazy mechanics always use them.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:24 PM   #7
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I'm the last one that rotated the tires and torqued all the lugs, front and rear the same, but all of the front ones somehow became ridiculously tight.
Can't fault your logic, though, Black.

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Probably impact gun the last time you got serviced - those really shouldn't be used but lazy mechanics always use them.
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Old 11-16-2011, 07:35 PM   #8
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A 1/2 x 20 lug nut shouldn't be tightened beyond about 125 ft-lbs. .
Are you sure?
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3 foot breaker bar with a 6 foot piece of pipe over it for leverage. You'll either get the bolts loose or break a lug.
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Are you sure?

Actually I'm way high there. Should be about 85 ft-lbs for a 1/2" w/a 5x5 bolt pattern.

My bad.
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Actually I'm way high there. Should be about 85 ft-lbs for a 1/2" w/a 5x5 bolt pattern.

My bad.
Sounds much better.
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Sounds much better.
Only 40 ft-lbs off. What the hell?

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3 foot breaker bar with a 6 foot piece of pipe over it for leverage. You'll either get the bolts loose or break a lug.
^This. Spray it with PB Blaster first for good measure.
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just swing by a tire shop or gas station and have them break them free for ya.. simple solution
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Breaker bar, hex socket, small propane torch, use "CONE" of foil around lug, flame for 20 seconds---"BAM"---lug comes right off !!

At least it works for me on Extreme Alloy wheels, I don't know about steel and the salt you guys get on the roads !!

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Old 11-17-2011, 08:02 AM   #16
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yeah, pretty sure some idiot loctited some of my lugs from the factory. even found blue goop on the lugs when I took off the wheels the first time.

Now I white lithium every time!
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Old 11-17-2011, 08:09 AM   #17
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My 09 had a seized lug on the rear and we had to break the lug. It was not over tightening but probably corrosion that caused the seize. Very common. I was very lucky many years ago when I had 3 of the 5 lugs fail on a '70 Challenger during a 100 mph run between a couple of towns in Montana. I didn't discover it until the next morning. I would have much preferred seized lugs instead of them missing.
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Old 11-17-2011, 09:30 AM   #18
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My owners manual says 85-125 ft-lbs for wheel lug nuts. Doesn't really say if you should go low or go high and I was wondering about that myself as I was planning to check and reset in the next few days now that I have a new torque wrench.

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