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Old 08-31-2009, 10:09 AM   #1
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Im 21 years old and im shopping for a new car. I have narrowed it down to a handful of cars and a 4dr 6-speed is on my list. I have about a 12 mile drive to work every morning and make many road trips around maryland. The only concern i have with a jeep is the fuel economy... i wanted a automatic but i believe i can get better gas mileage with a manual. Im so close to just going and getting a wrangler and need just a little more convincing to do so. I have about 25k to spend on a jeep and im sure i could get some help by you guys and ladies. Oh i would also like to be able to go off the road once in a while and make trips into snowy areas. Im big into snowboarding so this could be a plus.

My list of cars is:
2009 Mistubishi Lancer GTS
Jeep wrangler 4dr
Nissan 350Z
Infiniti G35
Toyota 4Runner
Audi A4
VW Jetta GLI

Im looking for a new car and need some feedback. The 4dr is on my list and its high on there. Here is what kind of situation i am in:

1. Need a new car bad!
2. My drive to work is about 30 miles all together.
3. I currently own a 04 Ford Taurus with 19mpg
4. Love the outdoors and fell in love with the 4dr wrangler
5. Cheaper and better fuel economy cars are also on my list.
6. I drive about 4 hours into the mountains to see my friends in college about twice a month.
7. I have about 25k to spend on a jeep.
8. Overall i do a lot of road driving and need a good reliable car.
9. I do a lot of snowboarding in the winter and the Taurus is horrible in snow.
10. I dont want to get a rice burner (Lancer) and regret being able to easliy drive through snow and rough areas with the Jeep.

Thanks for any input!

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I have a 04 Ford Taurus right now and on a good day i get 19mpg so it wont be that much of a difference right?? im trying to make it all work out

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Welcome. I know you will be very pleased with the Jeep if you go that route. If you haven't driven one yet, you need to do so.
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Drive a jeep with the top down. If possible on a scenic or a offroad route.

The mileage is not a very big thing. If you are buying any other 4x4 for snow its not going to give you 45 mpg. may be 25 28 I guess.

If you wont do any off-roading, you won't pay a dime on fixing anything for years to come.

The only thing I saw that some of my friends don't really like about jeep is its stiff ride. Buy hey its a jeep thing they wouldn't understand.

Also space is a little issue for 2 door, 4 door solved that one as far as I know.

Drive some at a local stealership. I think you will like it.

And yes STICK is the way to go.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:39 AM   #5
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I live in the city and drive my Jeep 20 miles total to work every day. I don't get to offroad as much as I would like I admit. But it is always comforting and nice when I drive by a an obstacle and I automatically think to myself "I could dominate that".
Or have you ever been driving on a trip and you notice a dirt road off to the side, and you wonder where it goes or why it is there? Well a Jeep gives you the chance to find peel off and check it out.

I recently traded my 06 Unlimited in for a 09 Unlimited X. No regrets. I have two nieces that I tote around often and it is far easier to pop in a car seat in the back with the 2 extra doors. Also, they added a fifth middle seat in the back, which is the best place to put a car seat. So a 4dr Jeep can be seen as future proof in the sense of family
The 4dr has lots of cargo room. Without putting the seats down I can easily put in 2 full ice chests and 2-4 duffel bags with room to still see out the back window. Also, the 4dr offers more room to store snowboards inside the Jeep then the 2dr models do.

If you are meant to own a Jeep you'll know it the second you get in one. They seem to call out to you. It's a Jeep thing... You'll either understand or you won't :P
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Ill put my input like this. I am the owner of a 93 YJ Wrangler with a soft top as well as a 90 Vette with a Targa top. Though these cars (Such as the 350 you are looking at) are nice and VERY fast and flashy, I would EASILY let the vette go before my jeep. I am actually looking into selling my vette and putting that money towards getting me a 4 dr JK as well.
My personal opinion is that jeeps are just so Versatile that they are perfect for you situation. I go offroading and camping alot and thats not something I can do in my vette, but the jeep is PERFECT for it.
My opinion go with the Wrangler, you will NOT regret it, I PROMISE
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I co-own a 2006 Vette with my dad. The thing is just a toy and for occasional fun. Good for dates and attention grabbing when the top is removed and stuffed in the back. Other then that, there is nothing more it can do. Jeep > Vette.
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Thanks for the replies, I love camping and everything outdoors. And i have a strong feeling ill love a wrangler. Ill have to go test drive one.
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Do you have 25k cash? Or you don't want to spend more than 25k? If Cash do this, go buy a 5k honda and a 5k Cherokee. Invest the rest and enjoy.
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sorry i should have put my limit is a 25k jeep. I have about 9k to put down on it. I dont like the cherokees and i hate honda. if i get a different jeep other than a wrangler i would get the SRT-8
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I was bitten in November of 07. When Chrysler bought my first one back, I could have had anything in the Jeep lineup. I got another Wrangler. My friend that owns a Honda just couldn't understand my logic. I tried to explain the jeep thing to him but he seemed unable to grasp it. I love my Rubi even more than the Sahara that I had. I had a bucket of fun with it in NH this summer. Can't really put it into words. Riding through the woods with the top down is an inexplicable feeling that is all good. Driving over challenging roads with the adrenalin flowing and the feeling of accomplishment after completing the challenge without breaking any parts....what can I say? The more I own it the better it seems to get. If you can see yourself in that frame of mind, get the jeep. No regrets here.
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Welcome Aboard, Shipmate!

Here's what your list "SHOULD" look like:

2009 Mistubishi Lancer GTS
Jeep Wrangler 4dr - WINNER!!!
Nissan 350Z
Infiniti G35
Toyota 4Runner
Audi A4
VW Jetta GLI


Test Drive one! You'll know immediately, the feeling that we get when we get behind the wheel of ours!

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Old 08-31-2009, 05:49 PM   #13
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Nothing on that list even comes close to comparing to a Wrangler!!!

The only three vehicles that come close are

Nissan Xterra
Toyota FJ Cruiser
Hummer H3 (which is way too expensive and the least off road capable of the bunch)
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:53 PM   #14
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Let see...
you like the outdoors
snowboard
camping
outdoors lifestyle
No more discussion needed, you were made for a Jeep.
As said earlier if you can go and test drive both 2dr & 4dr. 2dr's are nice but the ride is a bit boucier than a 4dr. Shorter wheelbase = better trail manueverability but the longer Unlimited gives better road manners. Some people say Jeeps are noisy, well compared to a Lexus, Infinity or Toyota yes it may seem that way. I don't find my JK noisy at all, the soft top on my old CJ used to flop pop and make all kinds of noise. This one is very quiet and have not had any popping or flopping at all. I rode from Kentucky to VA with the grand kids (8-5-2)in the back and could hear them talking to us no problem. The 4dr will give you the storage room you want, if you want to lock it up there are several "add-a-trunk" systems available from MOPAR, Tuffy etc. A Wrangler will make you look at roads in a whole different way and many times you will be looking for roads to explore.
The 25k is right in the ballpark for an "X" model. Sahara = more luxury, comfort, Rubicon = more hardcore items from manufacturer. The X lets you build your own as you see it = believe me you WILL be changing things to make it your own part of the Jeep disease (there is no cure) So if you decide to go with the Wrangler I think you will not be dissapointed
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Before mine I had a Dodge 3500 dually... I also do a little camping (mostly backpack) but when taking the family needed the hitch basket...but generally have had no problems downsizing. Mine is a daily driver to and from the main office and various sites through out the day for about 50 miles a day. During football season it is to and from FedEx from Newport News VA (about 400 mi) and no comfort issues for me, which is great considering having corrective spinal surgery for scoliosis.

On the longer road trips (behaving myself) I am getting 21 mpg according to the computer, and about 16 in town.

You do have an unusual list.... if you want outright mileage and reliablity go with the Jetta... if you want balls-out fun.... go with the Jeep and make friends every where you go.....
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Old 08-31-2009, 09:20 PM   #16
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sorry i should have put my limit is a 25k jeep. I have about 9k to put down on it. I dont like the cherokees and i hate honda. if i get a different jeep other than a wrangler i would get the SRT-8
Good luck finding an SRT8 for that.... I want one bad, but gotta sell the Charger to get one... And if gas mileage is an issue with a Wrangler, you might as well throw the SRT8 out the window.
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If your going off road scratch everything but the toyota or the jeep. The Audi is a great car. My wife traded hers on a JK Unlimited. You can spend more to maintain some of the cars in your list than you will spend to put gas in the jeep. I had to replace two brake rotors on the Audi and they cost $150 each. Just something to consider. Good luck whatever you decide but make sure you post some pictures of your jeep when you get it!
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Old 09-01-2009, 05:18 AM   #18
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From all you have said and seem to want, get the WRANGLER ... you will not regret the day.

We have a 4-dr 6 speed and total average is around 19 mpg, with most of our driving being short runs here and there. Very little highway.

Plus being able to run without a lid is awesome! And it always gets looks, especially when topless.
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Old 09-01-2009, 09:04 AM   #19
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I actually test drove one yesterday. It was a auto though so i couldnt grasp the drive completly. My dad had a 2dr a couple years ago and we had a blast in it. I decided to go with the Jeep. My brother is trying to persuade me into a BMW (he doesnt like dirt like i do).
The one thing that i noticed that i didnt really like was the headrests. Mostly the rear headrests. They seemed like they were in the way of view. That aside, there wasnt much that i didnt like. The one i test drove was a Sahara. They were asking for 28k for it. I tried to look around and find a 6-speed "X" but he said all the dealers are getting rid of the 09's and waiting for the 10's.
What kind of price should i be looking for for a new one? Or should i go slightly used?
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And why cant i find a 6-speed?? There is only the automatics...does it really matter if i get either one?
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You will have more fun with a stick, but then again it's up to you as to what you want.
The rear headrest can be intrusive for the rear view but there are ways around it. I simply lay my rear seat down, fasten a bungee cord to the head rest and raise the seat. The headrest stays down and out of the way. Need to take a rear passenger? Simply grab the headrest and pull it up. When you're done with the trip simply lower seat an raise with bungee attached and it will hold it down until next time. There is also a complete write up on another frorum on how to disconnect the cable that automatically raises the headrest so you have to do it manually.
Oh, I also "flipped" my mirror, just take the mirror and turn it so it is basically upside down (toggle for glare control should be on top) push arm from bracket up and adjust your mirror to where you can see. Mirror will sit higher so it will be out of your line of sight so you will have a complete windshield to look out of but still be easily viewable. Takes a little getting used to if you use the toggle to switch mirror but other than that it's no problem.
Also congrats on the Jeep and don't forget to wave!!!
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Ok great, thats some really good information to have. Thanks
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The one thing that i noticed that i didnt really like was the headrests. Mostly the rear headrests. They seemed like they were in the way of view.
I pulled my rear ones off the day I bought mine. They just pop right off. There's a button on one side, and a recessed button on the other side, so you can slide it right off. GREAT for rear visibility!





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