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Old 11-13-2011, 09:39 AM   #1
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Suspension Kits Part DSIJKCRAWLER2 - Jeep JK Crawler Package

found this and sense im getting stationed colorado. i found a 4wheel parts there close by. im new to jeeps and lifted. give me some review/feedback on what you guys think... i dont plan on offroading awhole lot. maybe hit some small trails here and there. this will be a pavement jeep. just want that offroad stance and be able to go off road as well. also, does anybody know will i be able to use my factory fog lights with this setup?

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Suspension Kits Part DSIJKCRAWLER2 - Jeep JK Crawler Package

found this and sense im getting stationed colorado. i found a 4wheel parts there close by. im new to jeeps and lifted. give me some review/feedback on what you guys think... i dont plan on offroading awhole lot. maybe hit some small trails here and there. this will be a pavement jeep. just want that offroad stance and be able to go off road as well. also, does anybody know will i be able to use my factory fog lights with this setup?
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Gotta admit, I spent all of 10 seconds looking at it. You don't need a 4" lift for a pavement Jeep, even if you're gonna hit small trails here and there and want an offroad stance, and especially not for $6K.

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Suspension Kits Part DSIJKCRAWLER2 - Jeep JK Crawler Package

found this and sense im getting stationed colorado. i found a 4wheel parts there close by. im new to jeeps and lifted. give me some review/feedback on what you guys think... i dont plan on offroading awhole lot. maybe hit some small trails here and there. this will be a pavement jeep. just want that offroad stance and be able to go off road as well. also, does anybody know will i be able to use my factory fog lights with this setup?

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You'd be way better off buying the stuff individually, easier to get exactly what you want and that's half the fun
Thoughts: no more than 3 1/2" lift, check out, BDS, tereflex, AEV, full traction
decide on 16 or 17" wheel with 4.5 bs and 33 or 35" tires
bumpers are well.... there are lots of choices, check out what looks and works for you
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I agree, do it individually. It will take more time, but you'll be happier with the end result.
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Gotta admit, I spent all of 10 seconds looking at it. You don't need a 4" lift for a pavement Jeep, even if you're gonna hit small trails here and there and want an offroad stance, and especially not for $6K.
You sound like my ex-wife. Im just sayin...
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OK. Felt guilty, and looked at it longer. Here's the breakdown, IMO:

Part Number: DSIJKCRAWLER2

  • Jeep JK Crawler Package
  • ProComp Suspension 4" Stage II Lift w/ Shocks At 4", it needs to come with more than shocks. You'll need new driveshafts, adjustable control arms, adjustable trackbar, brake line relo brackets, sway bar links, etc. Around $2K + (without install) in its own right.
  • ProComp AccuPro Speedometer & Odometer Calibrator...Buy an AEV ProCal for $150; can be used for many other things, such as disabling your TPMS sensors, as well.
  • ProComp Xtreme Alloy Series 8188 Gloss Black w/ Accents
  • ProComp Radial Mud Terrain...Not necessary for road driving. Goodyear DuraTracs, Falkens, Cooper SST's or BF Goodrich tires will serve you better on the road and off, and still give you an aggressive look.
  • ProComp Series 7" Driving Light
  • ProComp Light Harness Switch Kit
  • Smittybilt SRC Front Grille Guard Bumper
  • Smittybilt XRC-8 Winch...For a road Jeep? No.
  • Smittybilt XRC Winch Cover
  • Smittybilt Shackle D-Ring
  • Smittybilt SRC Rear Bumper w/ 2" Receiver
  • Smittybilt Oversized Tire Carrier...if you're gonna roll with 35's. For 33's it's not necessary...buy a set of Daystar bump stops to keep your spare snug against the tailgate.
  • Smittybilt Recovery Kit...For a road Jeep? No.
  • Smittybilt Rock Crawler Side Armor...For a road Jeep? No.

4wheelparts JK Crawler Package is designed to create an aggressive Off-Road look on any Jeep JK. Each performance package starts with a Pro Comp 4" Short arm suspension lift system that is engineered to accommodate 35" Procomp Mudterrain tires, improve suspension performance, and maintaining OE steering geometry. Vehicle specific spring rates and shock valving are selected to ensure OE ride quality is maintained. Procomp 8188 17" Custom wheels (you can buy 15 or 16" wheels AND tires for about the same price as the 17" tires alone) with proper off-set and 35” Procopmp Mud Terrain tires are included, adding that aggressive Off-Road look while ensuring proper fit and vehicle performance. Where applicable speedometer calibration is provided to ensure proper vehicle speed and mileage are recorded. This package also includes Smittybilt SRC front and rear bumpers and Smittybilt XRC 8 winch with Accessory kit. Also included are Procomp Slimline lights to make night driving that much easier. If you're offroad. Many aux lights can't be used on roads. check before you buy...
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OK. Felt guilty, and looked at it longer. Here's the breakdown, IMO:

Part Number: DSIJKCRAWLER2

[*]Jeep JK Crawler Package[*] ProComp Suspension 4" Stage II Lift w/ Shocks At 4", it needs to come with more than shocks. You'll need new driveshafts, adjustable control arms, adjustable trackbar, brake line relo brackets, sway bar links, etc. Around $2K + (without install) in its own right. [*]ProComp AccuPro Speedometer & Odometer Calibrator...Buy an AEV ProCal for $150; can be used for many other things, such as disabling your TPMS sensors, as well. [*]ProComp Xtreme Alloy Series 8188 Gloss Black w/ Accents[*]ProComp Radial Mud Terrain...Not necessary for road driving. Goodyear DuraTracs, Falkens, Cooper SST's or BF Goodrich tires will serve you better on the road and off, and still give you an aggressive look.[*]ProComp Series 7" Driving Light[*]ProComp Light Harness Switch Kit[*]Smittybilt SRC Front Grille Guard Bumper[*]Smittybilt XRC-8 Winch...For a road Jeep? No. [*]Smittybilt XRC Winch Cover[*]Smittybilt Shackle D-Ring[*]Smittybilt SRC Rear Bumper w/ 2" Receiver[*]Smittybilt Oversized Tire Carrier...if you're gonna roll with 35's. For 33's it's not necessary...buy a set of Daystar bump stops to keep your spare snug against the tailgate. [*]Smittybilt Recovery Kit...For a road Jeep? No. [*]Smittybilt Rock Crawler Side Armor...For a road Jeep? No.


4wheelparts JK Crawler Package is designed to create an aggressive Off-Road look on any Jeep JK. Each performance package starts with a Pro Comp 4" Short arm suspension lift system that is engineered to accommodate 35" Procomp Mudterrain tires, improve suspension performance, and maintaining OE steering geometry. Vehicle specific spring rates and shock valving are selected to ensure OE ride quality is maintained. Procomp 8188 17" Custom wheels (you can buy 15 or 16" wheels AND tires for about the same price as the 17" tires alone) with proper off-set and 35” Procopmp Mud Terrain tires are included, adding that aggressive Off-Road look while ensuring proper fit and vehicle performance. Where applicable speedometer calibration is provided to ensure proper vehicle speed and mileage are recorded. This package also includes Smittybilt SRC front and rear bumpers and Smittybilt XRC 8 winch with Accessory kit. Also included are Procomp Slimline lights to make night driving that much easier. If you're offroad. Many aux lights can't be used on roads. check before you buy...
This.

For a road jeep/very occasional trail riding, you could just do a 3"-"3.5 suspension lift with 35s. Or you could do a 2" budget boost and 33s. Both set ups are way cheaper and still effective on/offroad. Do a little more research and you'll find that for road jeep, 4" lift on a 2dr JK is overkill. With that kind of lift you're gonna want to run at least 35" tires. With 35s you'll want to regear your axles and that alone is around $2k. That with everything else you'll buy to make the 4" lift work, will cost a fortune. IMO it isn't worth it for a street only jeep. However, If money isn't an issue and you just want it for the looks, than go ahead and get the set up that looks best to you.
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This.

For a road jeep/very occasional trail riding, you could just do a 3"-"3.5 suspension lift with 35s. Or you could do a 2" budget boost and 33s. Both set ups are way cheaper and still effective on/offroad. Do a little more research and you'll find that for road jeep, 4" lift on a 2dr JK is overkill. With that kind of lift you're gonna want to run at least 35" tires. With 35s you'll want to regear your axles and that alone is around $2k. That with everything else you'll buy to make the 4" lift work, will cost a fortune. IMO it isn't worth it for a street only jeep. However, If money isn't an issue and you just want it for the looks, than go ahead and get the set up that looks best to you.
main reason, cause it comes in a package deal. plus they install everything as well. only thing i planned on doing was having them switch from the 35's down to some 33's AT's. heard the mud tires they give wear pretty bad on road. also, could i run 33's with out regear? i have 32's on there and mpg is like 17-18city and 23-24 highway. which isnt that bad. jeep came with bigger rims and tires from factory. assuming one or two inch more tall tires wont make that much different am i correct? plus, after that i was planning on supercharger from ripp mods. thatll help the engine more on pushing them. right??
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main reason, cause it comes in a package deal. plus they install everything as well. only thing i planned on doing was having them switch from the 35's down to some 33's AT's. heard the mud tires they give wear pretty bad on road. also, could i run 33's with out regear? i have 32's on there and mpg is like 17-18city and 23-24 highway. which isnt that bad. jeep came with bigger rims and tires from factory. assuming one or two inch more tall tires wont make that much different am i correct? plus, after that i was planning on supercharger from ripp mods. thatll help the engine more on pushing them. right??
Package deals are shit. Don't buy them. There's a reason they sell you everything, and install it, too. And it ain't for your bottom line.

You can run 33's w/out re-grearing. With a '12, shouldn't be a problem.

Can't comment on the ripp. A member here named Rics1997 can give you some advice.
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Procomp and Smitybilt would be the two reasons I'd avoid this kit.
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main reason, cause it comes in a package deal. plus they install everything as well. only thing i planned on doing was having them switch from the 35's down to some 33's AT's. heard the mud tires they give wear pretty bad on road. also, could i run 33's with out regear? i have 32's on there and mpg is like 17-18city and 23-24 highway. which isnt that bad. jeep came with bigger rims and tires from factory. assuming one or two inch more tall tires wont make that much different am i correct? plus, after that i was planning on supercharger from ripp mods. thatll help the engine more on pushing them. right??
1st,THANKS for your service! 2nd,these guys know what they're talking about,stay with 3in.or less,u will avoid alot of unneeded high dollar issues.you can do what you want for half the cost and you will be way happier with the road manners!
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Thanks for all the info. Well before I even got jeep or seen this kit. I was goon go for 4inch skyjacker with 33x12.50x15x9 and inch spacer. But you guys saying with the 4inch sus from skyjacker I'll have problems down the road. Any examples or 1st hand knowledge on these problems? Thanks
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found this and sense im getting stationed colorado. i found a 4wheel parts there close by. im new to jeeps and lifted. give me some review/feedback on what you guys think... i dont plan on offroading awhole lot. maybe hit some small trails here and there. this will be a pavement jeep. just want that offroad stance and be able to go off road as well. also, does anybody know will i be able to use my factory fog lights with this setup?

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main reason, cause it comes in a package deal. plus they install everything as well. only thing i planned on doing was having them switch from the 35's down to some 33's AT's. heard the mud tires they give wear pretty bad on road. also, could i run 33's with out regear? i have 32's on there and mpg is like 17-18city and 23-24 highway. which isnt that bad. jeep came with bigger rims and tires from factory. assuming one or two inch more tall tires wont make that much different am i correct? plus, after that i was planning on supercharger from ripp mods. thatll help the engine more on pushing them. right??
Don't take this the wrong way, but you definitely need to do more research before you make a decision. The kit that you are considering contains a lot of stuff, but it isn't complete and some of the items are mediocre IMO. It will lift your Jeep to make it look offroad ready, but I don't think you will be happy with the result. You can get a better suspension/kit through some of the sponsored vendors on this site when they are running sales.

You have a 2012, so you can run 33" tires without regearing. You might want to do a small budget lift or at most a 2.5" lift. Running 33" tires with a 4" lift will not only look funny because there will be so much space between your tires and fender, but you will have a higher center of gravity with the lift and you aren't going wider with larger tires to offset the higher lift.

I did a 3.5" lift with 35" tires and I have stock 4.10 gears. You are probably running 3.21 gears and running 35" tires will be iffy with 3.21 gears even on a 2012 without doing a gear swap. You will lose gas mileage with larger tires and a larger lift. On my JKU Rubicon, I lost about 2-3 mpg.

The larger the lift and the larger the tires, the more wear and tear will happen to your Jeep over time and the more things that you will have to modify to get things working correctly. With my 3.5" lift, I had to relocate part of my exhaust and replace the front driveshaft with an aftermarket one. You might not need to do those things with a smaller lift. The money saved from not doing the extra mods to fit the larger lift can be used to buy better accessories for your Jeep. I have fully adjustable control arms to get all of the angles close to stock, but it looks like the kit you are looking at doesn't have those adjustments. Without the adjustable control arms, you will get even more wear on the drivetrain and you will probably have poor driving characteristics. The smaller lifts don't require 8 adjustable control arms. Depending on the lift, you can get away with 4 adjustable control arms or they won't be required at all. The savings from not buying the control arms will allow you to buy even more accessories.

Also, as far as I know, the supercharger that you are looking at won't work on a 2012. I don't think there is an aftermarket turbo or supercharger that works for a 2012 yet.
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Look like your a 2 door? Don't go over 3", you'll need drive shafts. 4" on a 2 door = high COG = not good, even for highway driving. I would do 2.5" and 35's on 17" wheels (cause there's more options for tires). I would suggest for you the 2.5" Rock Krawler stock mod Rock Krawler Suspension, Inc..

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Rock Krawler Suspension, Inc. JK 2.5 MAX TRAVEL SYSTEM

differnece between stock mod vs max travel? would it be alright if i had max travel vs stock mod
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with this kit i was planning to run 33x12.50x17x9. i know you guys said i could run stock sus with 33's but want that extra little lift with comfort room. and with the link i posted would be best one for me? thanks
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Yes, if you have the money then go 2.5 Max Travel. You're going to get lower control arms and brake lines. 33's on 2.5" isn't bad but I had that too and now I am on 35's and want 37's, its an addiction.

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"Measure twice, cut once."

An adage that applies to building your Jeep, as well. Do your homework. You're not in a race. Decide what you wanna do, and then figure out everything you'll need to do it right.

Buy once. You and your wallet will be happier.
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"Measure twice, cut once."

An adage that applies to building your Jeep, as well. Do your homework. You're not in a race. Decide what you wanna do, and then figure out everything you'll need to do it right.

Buy once. You and your wallet will be happier.
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Rock Krawler Suspension, Inc. JK 2.5 MAX TRAVEL SYSTEM

differnece between stock mod vs max travel? would it be alright if i had max travel vs stock mod
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with this kit i was planning to run 33x12.50x17x9. i know you guys said i could run stock sus with 33's but want that extra little lift with comfort room. and with the link i posted would be best one for me? thanks
You can't go wrong with Rock Krawler. Either kit will not only clear the tires that you are looking at, but it will also do great offroad if you decide to do that. Of the two kits, I'd choose the max travel kit to give you more articulation. You will also spend significantly less money than what the other kit in your first post was going to cost you. You can take the savings and buy the tires, wheels, and winch of your choice instead of buying what was thrown into a kit to meet a certain price point.
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I'm going to take the 2.5 stock mod for now. Called rk and tech said if I want to get More ark then just call back tell them I got stock mod kit and want to upgrade to max travel and they'll send the parts I need to add. Love ak sense everything u can upgrade to new kit.
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RK is great with the upgradability of their current kits. Teraflex is like that too. Some companies lifts need to be scrapped if you want to change it up. You will not regret going RK

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