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Old 04-30-2012, 10:55 AM   #1
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Going uphill in reverse sucks

So I have been doing some searching on here and searching on that intraweb thing. It seems like a lot of people are having the same problem but I haven't found a solution.

I have a 2011 JKU auto. My driveway isn't long but it is at a good slant. Plus the garage opening isn't much bigger than the Jeep so I have to slow down a little to make sure I am ok on both sides. Pulling in forward isn't hard. Going up in reverse is impossible. Even before all 4 tires are on the hill it seems like it starts to slip. I put it in 4WD and took of hill assist and that doesn't work. The main reason I want to back into the garage is so I can make a hoist to take off the hardtop.

Has anyone found a good solution to this problem? Will regearing help? I believe I have 3.73 right now with 255/75/17 tires.

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Old 04-30-2012, 11:11 AM   #2
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Pics of driveway??

Have you tried 4lo? (turns off all the TC/ESC/BLD stuff)

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Old 04-30-2012, 11:17 AM   #3
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I have never encountered a 'driveway' of any steepness a Jeep in 4L could not handle easily regardless of my tires.

If there's ultraslick pavement or supergoo mud, and tires are spinning, that's another circumstance.

Anything you can go forward with your Jeep, you can go in reverse, as balance front to rear is equal.

If you can walk up the incline, I'm sure you will find a way your Jeep will be able to also.

Try 4L. Should be easy.
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I have noticed the same thing. It don't necessarily slip on the surface but seems to slip in the trans. It kind of hops and slips. Only in reverse.
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:09 PM   #5
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I'm not able to actually get in my garage right now (a bunch of stuff in there for donation) but I put it in 4L and backed up the driveway and it didn't flinch. It went right up.

Thanks guys
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:24 PM   #6
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I also have a 2011 auto. I don't have trouble so to speak going uphill in reverse but any slight hill in reverse and the jeep shakes really bad. Donno if that's normal or not but it still goes up. Anyone else have this same thing going on?
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Old 04-30-2012, 12:38 PM   #7
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Simple fix, don't shift to 4wd--

Just back up to the driveway in reverse and DON'T TOUCH THE BRAKES--just use the ebrake if you have to slow down--

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Old 04-30-2012, 01:17 PM   #8
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Pics of driveway??

Have you tried 4lo? (turns off all the TC/ESC/BLD stuff)
4-Lo does NOT turn off the BLD's. The only way to kill the BLD is to pull the fuse.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:19 PM   #9
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4-Lo does NOT turn off the BLD's. The only way to kill the BLD is to pull the fuse.
Or turn on your lockers if you have a Rubicon.

I noticed that after going back through the manual.
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:30 PM   #10
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Simple fix, don't shift to 4wd--

Just back up to the driveway in reverse and DON'T TOUCH THE BRAKES--just use the ebrake if you have to slow down--

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4Lo is the only way it would make it up. I tried 2WD and 4Hi. Both would get about halfway and "skip". I would roll back down and try again faster and still wouldn't make it. I would give it more gas when it started to "skip" and it just stayed there. I'm sure if I gave it a good amount of gas it would but I don't have that much room. My driveway fit the Jeep with about 2 feet to spare. I really don't have much room to give it a good jump start. I basically have to start to reverse climb from the bottom.

4Lo didn't skip at all. It went right up. I even stopped and went a little further and it didn't hesitate at all.
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I gotta see this driveway...

I have a long gravel driveway, with hills and sometimes with ruts after a bad rain,. I've backed up it lots of times with no issues. Maybe try feathering the throttle?
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Old 04-30-2012, 01:42 PM   #12
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http://faculty.fortlewis.edu/may_d/d...20driveway.jpg

This is what I'm envisioning in my head.....
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:33 PM   #13
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No it is't that steep but it is steep. With any kind of snow or ice on it, you can't walk up it without sliding down.

Maybe there is something wrong with my Jeep because I have tried a few times and it can't make it up in 2 or 4Hi. I can try again but the sound it makes sounds like tires spinning out but my tires aren't spinning out.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:37 PM   #14
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http://faculty.fortlewis.edu/may_d/d...20driveway.jpg

This is what I'm envisioning in my head.....
WOW. I hope the designer/builder got fired. That driveway is worthless.
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:40 PM   #15
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Somebody actually had to take a step back, look at it, and say yep that's good
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Old 04-30-2012, 02:47 PM   #16
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Looks like you're gonna have to use 4L0/or regear/or forget reverse on that garage--

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Looks like you're gonna have to use 4L0/or regear/or forget reverse on that garage--

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I would like to re-gear anyway so I might do it sooner than I thought.

Right now I have 255s but would like to get 285s. Would 5.13 be too high? Or should I go with 4.88? I would re-gear now and get the 285s later on so the new gear would need to be good for 255s and 285s. I don't do a lot of driving but I do drive to and from work so it would need to be good for daily road driving as well as some trails.

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Old 04-30-2012, 03:15 PM   #18
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:24 PM   #19
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I would like to re-gear anyway so I might do it sooner than I thought.

Right now I have 255s but would like to get 285s. Would 5.13 be too high? Or should I go with 4.88? I would re-gear now and get the 285s later on so the new gear would need to be good for 255s and 285s. I don't do a lot of driving but I do drive to and from work so it would need to be good for daily road driving as well as some trails.

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I'd go ahead and get the 5.13 YUKONs--you have an O/D and you'd just have to useit-

Find a reputable speed/gear/suspension shop and find out if they know what they're doing, then let them buy all the gears/master kits/fluids and listen to there warranty requirements-

Expect $1200 t0 $1800 bucks !

Good luck

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WOW. I hope the designer/builder got fired. That driveway is worthless.
I can't believe they actually poured driveways like that...
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:09 PM   #21
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That is insaine.... STEEP. I know that others have said the Torqe converters are weak in the autos. I have never seen anything like that driveway.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:51 PM   #22
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http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/aut...se-157064.html

Post in another thread about same problem talks about week converter in autos.
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:48 PM   #23
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Thank you for that pic. I needed a good belly laugh. That driveway is comical
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Old 04-30-2012, 11:16 PM   #24
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I had the same tranny in my 03KJ. It was always pretty crappy in reverse up a hill. That's actually what killed it in the end. My wife ended up at a dead end on campus after driving down a steep hill and the only way to get out was in reverse. It ended up cooking the transmission and some retainer clip inside snapped.

I was never really that impressed with the 42RLE.
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Old 05-01-2012, 01:54 AM   #25
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http://faculty.fortlewis.edu/may_d/d...20driveway.jpg

This is what I'm envisioning in my head.....
Is that somewhere in NJ?
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Is that somewhere in NJ?
LOL Yeh it could be Money Talks and Bull Shut walks here No matter what !!!!!!! LOL
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Old 05-01-2012, 06:22 AM   #27
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That is insaine.... STEEP. I know that others have said the Torqe converters are weak in the autos. I have never seen anything like that driveway.
Insane is any dumb ass that bought it!
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That pic made we laugh
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http://faculty.fortlewis.edu/may_d/d...20driveway.jpg

This is what I'm envisioning in my head.....

Too funny!

On another note, that's a great way to keep the ricers from moving in to the neighborhood.

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