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Old 02-21-2013, 04:53 PM   #1
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Good day to have a Jeep

Okay, every day is a good day to have a Jeep, but especially today in St Louis.

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Very pleased with how the JKUR with the OEM BFGs did in the snow.

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Just curious as I don't ever see that kind of stuff: how do those things like traction control, abs etc work in snow? Can you tell they are there/at work? I was wondering if the cars that are sideways on the hill have those features.

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Please be careful on ice or hard-packed snow with those tires. You will hear many different opinions, just keep it in mind. I think they are fantastic tires for a lot of different circumstances but not hard-packed snow (glazed over) or ice.

The stuff in your pic looks a little looser and that gives those big tread blocks something to dig into, they are pretty darn good on anything with texture.
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Okay, every day is a good day to have a Jeep, but especially today in St Louis.

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Very pleased with how the JKUR with the OEM BFGs did in the snow.
Shoulda bought a jeep... shoulda bought a jeep...

That is what they were thinking.

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Had a fun trip from St. Louis to Hooterville today...
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Just curious as I don't ever see that kind of stuff: how do those things like traction control, abs etc work in snow? Can you tell they are there/at work? I was wondering if the cars that are sideways on the hill have those features.
Traction control takes all the fun out of driving in the snow. How am I supposed to kick the tail out and drive sideways with the darn thing on? Thank goodness for the button.

Traction control and abs are all perfect for the snow. This is my first traction control vehicle and it does exactly what it is supposed to do. Tires spin or slip and it cuts power (engine not electrical ) which is really what you want. Spinning your wheels in snow is a waste.

I do hit the button quite a bit. This is a Jeep. Jeeps are about fun!
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You can definitely feel the ABS if you hit the brakes hard. Fun to get the Jeep to fishtail a bit.

I work in Clayton and have a 10 mile commute. Can't tell you how many cars were stuck and having problems getting up hills. I probably saw (other than the hill stretch in the pic) a car stuck at least once per mile. Most probably didn't have tow points so not sure I could have done much.

Defiantly have experienced some slippage in some conditions with the BFGs, but today in the new snow they did what was asked of them.
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Had a fun trip from St. Louis to Hooterville today...
Hooterville??? Green acres?
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Hooterville??? Green acres?
Close.... Bonne Terre... Just south of Petticoat Junction....

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Close.... Bonne Terre... Just south of Petticoat Junction....

Ah..I bet that was a journey today then. It took me about n hour to get only 17 miles from downtown to home n south county! I frequent that area kinda close to you on weekends, bloomsdale n weingarten. Was hoping my rear bumper and some other little things would get here by this weekend but I think this storm screwed that all up.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:26 PM   #11
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Just curious as I don't ever see that kind of stuff: how do those things like traction control, abs etc work in snow? Can you tell they are there/at work? I was wondering if the cars that are sideways on the hill have those features.
In my personal experience abs and traction control get in the way when it comes to snow they are really designed for wet conditions, especially abs because it prevents you from building up snow in front of your tires to help you stop and I can't speak about jeeps traction control but in other vehicles I have driven with it in the snow it causes them to behave in unexpected way, I have gotten into a bit of a slide in a chrysler lhs and the traction control turned on as I was correcting and it locked the rear breaks and almost caused me to crash when it was a really just a little slide. My evo doesn't have anything but abs and it is by far one of the most predictable vehicle in the snow I have ever driven, but when it gets really bad my jeep in 4 low is never really going fast enough to use those electronic nannies

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In my personal experience abs and traction control get in the way when it comes to snow they are really designed for wet conditions, especially abs because it prevents you from building up snow in front of your tires to help you stop and I can't speak about jeeps traction control but in other vehicles I have driven with it in the snow it causes them to behave in unexpected way, I have gotten into a bit of a slide in a chrysler lhs and the traction control turned on as I was correcting and it locked the rear breaks and almost caused me to crash when it was a really just a little slide. My evo doesn't have anything but abs and it is by far one of the most predictable vehicle in the snow I have ever driven, but when it gets really bad my jeep in 4 low is never really going fast enough to use those electronic nannies

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I thought the same thing. My first few experiences with my JKU in snow....i really didnt care for the traction control. It was unpredictable, i'm sure I could get used to it. For now I switch it off when I'm getting into something so I know how its gonna act.
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My personal feeling is that traction control if for people that don't know how to drive in certain conditions.

I just turn it off when its snowy so I control the vehicle instead of the vehicle controlling me.
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My personal feeling is that traction control if for people that don't know how to drive in certain conditions.

I just turn it off when its snowy so I control the vehicle instead of the vehicle controlling me.
I'm not sure that this could be said better!
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My personal feeling is that traction control if for people that don't know how to drive in certain conditions.

I just turn it off when its snowy so I control the vehicle instead of the vehicle controlling me.
I'm not sure that this could be said better!

Although on my 12 it can't really be turned off until its in 4wheel
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We just had over 14 inches here in Wichita. Had a blast! BFG MT"s ate it up. Predicting 6-12 more Monday!!! Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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We just had over 14 inches here in Wichita. Had a blast! BFG MT"s ate it up. Predicting 6-12 more Monday!!! Yippee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My brother in Wichita wishes he had my Jeep and my snow blower. I should probably send him the snow blower but he needs the exercise.
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Also in Kansas and we got 16 inches where I live. Stock Goodyear Silentarmor tires were fantastic. The ABS and ESP made it near impossible to lose control. I picked up four colleagues and drove them into work. Along the way, I got to pull out a stuck snow plow! Actually, it was a county road maintenance vehicle, but it was a Chevy 2500 HD 4X4 with Duratracs, tools, and a blade on the front. About 1/5 of the 1000 employees made it to work Thursday, but they were all talking about how Jason pulled a snow plow out of the ditch with his new Jeep.
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In my personal experience abs and traction control get in the way when it comes to snow they are really designed for wet conditions, especially abs because it prevents you from building up snow in front of your tires to help you stop and I can't speak about jeeps traction control but in other vehicles I have driven with it in the snow it causes them to behave in unexpected way, I have gotten into a bit of a slide in a chrysler lhs and the traction control turned on as I was correcting and it locked the rear breaks and almost caused me to crash when it was a really just a little slide. My evo doesn't have anything but abs and it is by far one of the most predictable vehicle in the snow I have ever driven, but when it gets really bad my jeep in 4 low is never really going fast enough to use those electronic nannies

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You do know its a very bad idea to lock up the brakes in the hardpack right?

I love the traction control on these things. It is very nice to just drive and it will help control the vehicle if the backend gets loose. It has never "locked up" the rear on me, it has only guided the Jeep back to going straight. The only time I ever disable the first stage of traction control is when im going in deep snow and want the tires to slip to help me keep going forward. On hardpack and ice I want all the help I can get.
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Snowpocalypse 2013 in Kansas City. Great day to have a Jeep!

All this after about 3 hours of snowfall


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You do know its a very bad idea to lock up the brakes in the hardpack right?

I love the traction control on these things. It is very nice to just drive and it will help control the vehicle if the backend gets loose. It has never "locked up" the rear on me, it has only guided the Jeep back to going straight. The only time I ever disable the first stage of traction control is when im going in deep snow and want the tires to slip to help me keep going forward. On hardpack and ice I want all the help I can get.
Yeah I know on hardpack it's bad to lock your breaks, I was talking more fresh snow and my experience was with older traction control systems so maybe they have gotten better, but personally my preferred method of dealing with snow is gearing because breaks are never 50/50 biased front to back and can quickly lead to problems. My personal opinion though is that the traction control takes some control away from you and makes some decisions for you that may not be best at the time but then again I'm old fashioned
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Old 02-23-2013, 10:23 AM   #22
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We got a whole mess of rain, sleet, snow, and pea sized hail, all coming down to a total of a whooping 2 inches at most! Yet somehow, almost every public school, church, and event was canceled.

The only bad thing to come of it for us came at 2:30am when a guy on medication did a hit and run on my girl's car which was parked on the street in front of the house. They caught him two blocks away after he totaled his car into a concrete retaining wall by the highway.
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We are looking at 8-10 inches tonight, with high winds. Could be fun.

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