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Old 07-02-2013, 09:03 AM   #31
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Could you make an enclosure for an amp that would replace the factory sub? Would be a nice stealthy combo.

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Old 07-02-2013, 09:10 AM   #32
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Curious... with the sound stage of the Jeep with the top on, I can see this sounding good.. but with it being up-firing and having nothing for the sound to resonate against if the top is off, I see it a waste. Have you thought of some sort of down-firing box instead?

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Old 07-02-2013, 11:30 AM   #33
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Do you lose the use of the storage area of a 2door jk with it and the rear seats installed, or can you put stuff on top of it.
No loss at all- a big part of why he designed to begin with. Its designed so that the current cover lays flat like it normally would. My aftermarket sub. currently locks into the seat and takes up most of my space behind the seat. Plus I want to leave the seat out permanently. But I don't want to give up my bass. Problem solved....
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:39 AM   #34
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So if I have the Infinity system, the only thing I would need to add/upgrade is an amp?

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LOC and Amp or Amp that accepts speaker level inputs...
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Old 07-02-2013, 11:56 AM   #36
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Curious... with the sound stage of the Jeep with the top on, I can see this sounding good.. but with it being up-firing and having nothing for the sound to resonate against if the top is off, I see it a waste. Have you thought of some sort of down-firing box instead?
Yes but there just isn't enough space to leave room for the drivers to move and have enough air to move. Hopefully going to be the best of both worlds- excellent bass but still practical and hidden. Plus there are plenty of aftermarket big boxes you can throw behind a seat somewhere.

Could you make an enclosure for an amp that would replace the factory sub? Would be a nice stealthy combo.

Not a bad idea. We'll have to tinker.

The factory amp struggles to drive the stock sub, it would fail miserably at driving three. This would need a replacement/additional amplifier(s) to get proper results.

I suspect you're right. But we'll be testing it as soon as I get it. You'll have to splice the wiring either way. It won't be plug and play. It might be down the road but not for now.
This will drop in to completely replace the existing enclosure- not just a frame. You should be able to still put plenty of weight on it- its still using the flip cover. You can't damage the foam really but the sound may be muffled. Good point- and now thinking about a grill.....
Thanks for all the input and questions! Keep in coming!
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Are they ready to ship yet??
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:10 PM   #38
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Here is a better shot of the entire unit.....
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:13 PM   #39
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LOC and Amp or Amp that accepts speaker level inputs...
Haven't gotten there yet. Ideally the amp would have both high & low level inputs so you can choose the installation method. Looking for preferences...yours?
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Looks nice. Have you guys installed one yet? Curious to see whether or not the storage area cover flops around making noise as air moves.
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Old 07-02-2013, 12:25 PM   #41
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I put some pretty heavy stuff in the back cargo area of my Jeep. Either a tool bag full of wrenches and sockets or a range bag full of hundreds of rounds of ammo.

I would like to see some kind of extra support for the factory cover to rest on. You can put several plastic spacers around the perimeter of the speakers and maybe even a thin metal grate on top to help distribute the weight.
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Old 07-02-2013, 01:47 PM   #43
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This is pretty dope.
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unsuedusername makes a good point. how much space is there between the top of the speaker and the bottom of the plastic cover that goes over it? mostly concerned about how much weight can sit on top of that before it sinks down enough to possibly damage the rounded edge of the foam on top of the speaker (why i cant remember what it is called right now is beyond me...)
You can put metal grating between the speaker and the plastic that will hold up very well depending on how much you want to spend.

OP, nice design and you're absolutely right. People tend to focus on giant subs when some of the best sounding installs relied on 8's and 10's. Great setup with the passive radiators.
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Install pictures please.
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OP just posted this thread yesterday.
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One additional though I had about this sub.

I leave my top down or even just my back window out from time to time. If it happens to rain I can get some water accumulation in that area where this sub will fit.

How tough would it be to make the enclosure and/or the components at least water resistant?
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One additional though I had about this sub.

I leave my top down or even just my back window out from time to time. If it happens to rain I can get some water accumulation in that area where this sub will fit.

How tough would it be to make the enclosure and/or the components at least water resistant?

Do you get water in the enclosure or just pooling around it? The sub. will be fully sealed and bedlined for water resistance but fully waterproof is a concern. My JK is a 2 door soft top/top off and no rear carpets- we'll be hosing her down.
(I live in California so I can't test for actual rain LOL). I did just come across this- pretty cool. Just an FYI speaking of waterproofing.
Superhydrophobic Coatings | Corrosion Control & Waterproof Coatings | NeverWet
We also figure with no carpet test sound in my JK will be pretty much worst case scenario.....same for testing the flap/cover for vibration. Its easy enough to design a latch for it though. I'll pile on a bunch of weights too.
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I left my back window out recently on a day it rained. There was a lot of water under the insert. There was a bit of water inside as well. Not nearly as much as underneath though. I do have full carpets in my JK so I don't know how that affects things. I know water can wick through the carpet material. I'm not sure what would change by removing the insert (which I'm assuming is completely removed and not replaced if the sub is placed there).

It wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure the enclosure is set up to have water migrate on top of it.
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That design looks pretty awesome. I'd be in for one.
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:07 AM   #51
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Looks good keep the "info" coming...
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Old 07-03-2013, 10:37 AM   #52
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Haven't gotten there yet. Ideally the amp would have both high & low level inputs so you can choose the installation method. Looking for preferences...yours?
Sorry, my response was for the post above mine asking about how to power it/get signal to it.

In response to you however, the amps like alpine that have a built in speaker level input as well as RCA inputs for low level are great and very reasonably priced. I prefer an all in one unit rather than a 2 piece. Also the speaker level inputs serve as the amp turn on so there is no need for that additional wire.
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Darn, I thought this a was a Bass fishing thread.
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Old 07-03-2013, 04:26 PM   #55
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Here is an easy to follow diagram for wiring any audio equipment.

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Old 07-03-2013, 06:32 PM   #57
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Funny I should see this post today as my wife just asked about adding a sub yesterday. When I told her she'd lose precious "trunk" space she said to forget it. This would be ideal!
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:17 PM   #58
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im really interested also.
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Old 07-03-2013, 07:44 PM   #59
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so here's a related question. I have a downfiring 2 - 10 closed, behind the seat box from my tj (that fit snugly). will it fit ok behind a 2dr jk rear seat?
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So can I ask why I searched for the last two years for a sub, was frustrated with everything on the market, dropped my money on a stealth pod a couple of months ago as a last resort, and now you are telling me this???? Next time you guys are planning to come to market with a practical product can you please tell me telepathically?! For real.....get this on the market before Jeep changes the design of the wrangler!

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