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Old 07-03-2013, 09:41 PM   #61
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Oh, and I think that means I should receive a free sub for product testing!

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Old 07-03-2013, 10:39 PM   #62
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I've given this design some thought for my own uses...

I think I would need to keep the space for the little cargo box under the trunk mat as cargo.

I've got a bunch of stuff that I keep in there and considering the nearly complete lack of hidden storage in the 2 door JKs, I think I've got to keep that space as cargo.

I looked around and nobody makes a box that appears to be a factory sub box, but is actually storage. If such a box were available then I might be able to get one of these.

Also, how do you get to the jackstand if this is wired in? Do you use a disconnect on your wiring to remove the box?

Maybe if I were to get a front bumper with removable storage endcaps then I could relocate the stuff... Maybe more research is needed...

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Old 07-04-2013, 01:14 AM   #63
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I've given this design some thought for my own uses...

I think I would need to keep the space for the little cargo box under the trunk mat as cargo.

I've got a bunch of stuff that I keep in there and considering the nearly complete lack of hidden storage in the 2 door JKs, I think I've got to keep that space as cargo.

I looked around and nobody makes a box that appears to be a factory sub box, but is actually storage. If such a box were available then I might be able to get one of these.

Also, how do you get to the jackstand if this is wired in? Do you use a disconnect on your wiring to remove the box?

Maybe if I were to get a front bumper with removable storage endcaps then I could relocate the stuff... Maybe more research is needed...
Are the two doors different than the 4 doors? My jack and stuff are in a compartment in front of the area that would be used for this. I never looked at a 2 door that close so I honestly don't know if there's a difference.

On another note, what route would wiring have to this? How about the wires if your tub is bedlined? I have mine JKU bedlined, but I use the stock insert and cargo mat. I don't have the plastic side pieces though to run wires under, so I would be looking at having to run a line on the outside and tapping it in through the tub to really hide it.
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Old 07-04-2013, 01:37 AM   #64
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I dont know..I am not sold. Its not going to sound good with soft tops. I didnt see the power rating on those speakers.

I have purchased many custom sound system over a twenty year period and the Jeep has been by far the most challenging to get decent SQ let alone SPL out of normal setups.

I went with a downfire Kicker L7 8" in a ported box. Nobody believes its an 8" woofer.

It even sounds good with the top down.
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When would this be in production?
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Old 07-04-2013, 07:52 AM   #66
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I've tried many a set up in Jeeps over the years being an MECP installer. What is in the OP will sound good with the top up/on. Once you take the top off there simply won't be enough air movement to translate to audible sound in the front seats.

The absolute best solutions are a large 12"+ free air sub mounted in the back or two 8" tube subs (Bazooka tubes) on the floor behind the driver and passenger seat. With the tubes being right behind the seats your spacial loss with the top off is somewhat negated.

I'd be interested to hear the results of the OP's set up in a topless 2dr and 4dr. My thoughts are that it will sound not much better than the stock sub.
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I don't know about you guys but I don't need to drive down the street thumping like an epileptic rhino. I just want a small sub to fill in the bottom end that the factory speakers can't handle. A small sub with an amp pushing 100w or less is just fine for that, even with the top down.
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this little sub would be vehicle specific. you got to have a hard top as soft tops have their reflection issues, add a new amp , metal grills to protect subs from caving and maybe marine grade speakers and a solid frame with no wood. I have never found a 100% application friendly sub in all the installs ive done but this one would work for me in my jeep. the first thing I thought of when I lifted the rear floor cover and saw that compartment, shit I could fit a couple JL 6wo's in there.
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I'd be in if you make them for 2 10's. I currently have a box with 2 infinity 10 and I'm pleased with the sound but not the loss of space in the 2 door I drive
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Old 07-07-2013, 12:19 PM   #73
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I don't know about you guys but I don't need to drive down the street thumping like an epileptic rhino. I just want a small sub to fill in the bottom end that the factory speakers can't handle. A small sub with an amp pushing 100w or less is just fine for that, even with the top down.
I GURANTEE that with a 100 amps or less with this setup with a soft top down you won't hear it , Or out will sound like ass.

The only way to get the factory speakers to sound good is to amplify them. I replaced the ones in the sound bar prior to installing the headunit ,amp ,and sub.

With the stock headunit the aftermarkets sound v just as bad as the stock speaker.

Added a little power and it was like night and day. I was going to change the front ones with components but honestly they sound great with some amplified power.

The Kicker 8"L7 ads the nice bottom end. I have a soft top and the down fire is the only way to go with a soft top.

Space is a premium for me as when we hit the trails the back seat comes out and gear is stored in that area where the OP speaker setup would be. It's not going to hold up to storing things on top of it.

Even if you use your jeep as a grocery getter etc .. things, pets, kids, trampling all over it is the biggest problem I see.

Also it's right over a drain plug...where water could be...no bueno.
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With the stock headunit the aftermarkets sound v just as bad as the stock speaker.
That's a very generalized quote you have there and certainly not true across the board.
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I'd be in if you make them for 2 10's. I currently have a box with 2 infinity 10 and I'm pleased with the sound but not the loss of space in the 2 door I drive
Two 10s? Really? In that space your not getting 2 tens....

I mounted my sub box to my swing gate as that was some space I was willing to give up in my 2 door. Still not any room really with the back seat in...
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[QUOTE=derf;3926935]I don't know about you guys but I don't need to drive down the street thumping like an epileptic rhino.

DERF kind of has it here. I have the Kicker Stage 3 system now. Top down or soft top up doesn't matter- the bass from my sub. is ridiculous. Plenty of big box (literally) products out there. What were trying to do here is provide better performance (no muddling/less boomy) than OEM or upgraded subs, keep it stealth, and put it in a practical space. Reasonably priced- but I can't discuss that here. Trust me- it will drive plenty of power and oomph. I will post more performance numbers but right now I am pushing him like crazy to get it to me. I have a big Meet N Greet in two weeks- perfect place to test (real world) against other subs. And really a sound lab is one thing; actual installed sound is another. Especially in a open Jeep.
As for storage- just a thought.
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Your said practical placement...you're going to have to do some real world testing with coolers etc...stored on top.

It may sound good but who cares if it's not a durable setup.
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I have a buddy who has worked in the car audio installation business for 25 years and he says in a wrangler to get the best sound you've gotta have a special box pointed straight at the ground in the trunk for the best sound. For me though, i don't want to sacrifice my trunk space for 2 10s.. I upgraded my dash speakers and sound bar to pioneer speakers and put a new 6.5" in the center console and it sounds better.. but with the top down I've been looking at other possibilities for increased sound and bass.. a lot of people say to put a sound ordinance powered sub under the drivers seat and it helps quite a bit for such an inexpensive sub and amp
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Any pictures of it installed??
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I have a buddy who has worked in the car audio installation business for 25 years and he says in a wrangler to get the best sound you've gotta have a special box pointed straight at the ground in the trunk for the best sound. For me though, i don't want to sacrifice my trunk space for 2 10s.. I upgraded my dash speakers and sound bar to pioneer speakers and put a new 6.5" in the center console and it sounds better.. but with the top down I've been looking at other possibilities for increased sound and bass.. a lot of people say to put a sound ordinance powered sub under the drivers seat and it helps quite a bit for such an inexpensive sub and amp
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How about an update from the OP!
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I have a buddy who has worked in the car audio installation business for 25 years and he says in a wrangler to get the best sound you've gotta have a special box pointed straight at the ground in the trunk for the best sound. For me though, i don't want to sacrifice my trunk space for 2 10s.. I upgraded my dash speakers and sound bar to pioneer speakers and put a new 6.5" in the center console and it sounds better.. but with the top down I've been looking at other possibilities for increased sound and bass.. a lot of people say to put a sound ordinance powered sub under the drivers seat and it helps quite a bit for such an inexpensive sub and amp
that's what I ran in my tj. 2 downfiring jl 10's in a closed box behind the back seat. I still have it but I'm getting a jk now.

I guess I'll ask this question again: will that box fit ok behind the back seat of a 2dr jk?
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I think I am going to do the full sound system upgrade in a few weeks which will include and LC7i, alpine amp, kicker subwoofer, polk speakers, and polk tweeters.

My question is, has anyone ever run the Kicker CompRT67 ? Spec wise it should fit in the stock enclosure. I have already dynamated the interior of my enclosure but if I do the upgrade I'd pull it completely and dynamat underneath the enclosure as well to help with vibration. So if anyone has any experience maintaining the stock sub enclosure any advice would be appreciated.
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I think I am going to do the full sound system upgrade in a few weeks which will include and LC7i, alpine amp, kicker subwoofer, polk speakers, and polk tweeters.

My question is, has anyone ever run the Kicker CompRT67 ? Spec wise it should fit in the stock enclosure. I have already dynamated the interior of my enclosure but if I do the upgrade I'd pull it completely and dynamat underneath the enclosure as well to help with vibration. So if anyone has any experience maintaining the stock sub enclosure any advice would be appreciated.
I would also like to know. Working on the same set up. Except with a JL 700/5 amp.
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I think I am going to do the full sound system upgrade in a few weeks which will include and LC7i, alpine amp, kicker subwoofer, polk speakers, and polk tweeters.

My question is, has anyone ever run the Kicker CompRT67 ? Spec wise it should fit in the stock enclosure. I have already dynamated the interior of my enclosure but if I do the upgrade I'd pull it completely and dynamat underneath the enclosure as well to help with vibration. So if anyone has any experience maintaining the stock sub enclosure any advice would be appreciated.
Sounds like you need to start your own thread.

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