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Old 06-18-2012, 11:43 AM   #1
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Grill mod HELP?

I know I'm sure this mod is beat to death. I just did it this weekend first I just used the zip tie anchuors and it looked great drive around and 33 of the 40 anchuors gave up so then I gorilla glued them and had a few more give up. I let the gorilla glue sit over night to dry inside my house so maybe I didn't use enough or did you guys find something better to use?

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:04 PM   #2
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I know I'm sure this mod is beat to death. I just did it this weekend first I just used the zip tie anchuors and it looked great drive around and 33 of the 40 anchuors gave up so then I gorilla glued them and had a few more give up. I let the gorilla glue sit over night to dry inside my house so maybe I didn't use enough or did you guys find something better to use?
Super glue i think works best

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Old 06-18-2012, 12:28 PM   #3
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Super glue isn't flexible and is wimpy for this application.

Use Epoxy/JB Weld/Marine Tex
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:31 PM   #4
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I was thinking about getting the material and glueing the anchors but after reading alot of the comments regarding it not holding, I ordered this today Rugged Ridge 11401.31 Gloss Black Mesh Grille Insert

It seems like it will hold up a little bit better and is only a little bit more than what the material would cost at Home Depot.
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:36 PM   #5
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New here so forgive me if I am wrong, but if you are talking about steel mesh behind the grill I had this on a few trucks over the past few years and I used this product (various brands)

Metal Repair Epoxy Putty from Loctite Adhesives

I simply mixed the putty, created anchor points at corners and long streches on the backside in the grill molding then used a small self-tapping metal screw after it had set.

2 vehicles - 70,000 on one, 100,000 on the other and never had a single screw point fail.
Never had one fail
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Old 06-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #6
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Yeah, something tougher is needed. Maybe that stuff TufB mentioned or JB Weld.

This is the principal problem with the DIY version of this mod, and why many folks eventually convert to a "real" grille insert.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:05 PM   #7
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I did mine a week ago, still holding firm. all the zip ties where attached, lose and then i tightened them up slow, nto too much pressure, but trying to do a little at a time, and when i felt pressure, moved to a new one. no issues. here, they seem to be holding. i did gorilia glue the top and bottom and sides, i have the single sheet method. of steel mesh.
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I used an epoxy and let it dry over night. Have had no issues with it since. Make sure that the epoxy works on plastic.

I did a run from Los Angeles to the Grand Canyon, 7ish hours one way. The guard was great, I caught so many bugs in that instead of in my radiator, big bastards too. I was very impressed with the genius of this mod.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:20 PM   #9
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Ok so I should have went with jb weld I thought about it but thought gorilla glue would be good enough. But next question what did you guys use for paint? I used some rust preventer high gloss black rustolium and it chips right off. I used this stainless gutter mesh from lows
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I did mine a week ago, still holding firm. all the zip ties where attached, lose and then i tightened them up slow, nto too much pressure, but trying to do a little at a time, and when i felt pressure, moved to a new one. no issues. here, they seem to be holding. i did gorilia glue the top and bottom and sides, i have the single sheet method. of steel mesh.
I did the same and it has worked for a few hundred miles.
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Old 06-18-2012, 01:32 PM   #11
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So maybe I just put to much tension on the zip ties I can try and leve them loser next time I will have to basically do it all over again to get my three other anchuors back down
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So maybe I just put to much tension on the zip ties I can try and leve them loser next time I will have to basically do it all over again to get my three other anchuors back down
do u have a single sheet of mesh steel or are u using the plastic individual ones? and yes. dont tighten 1 up at a time, u need to to them all a little, it take some time and you will "want" to rush, but dont. and dont over tighten. if u think one is too tight, u can always cut it and put a net zip tie. they are cheap.

a friend fo mine did the same thing, he did not use any glue, jsut what came on the holders. he has had his on for about 3 months. no issues. recently he got some plasti dipp and took removed the front grill and sprayed his mesh and the whole front grill with the plasti dipp. even the inside.. sealing the ancors and zipties in plasti dipp lol he said he wanted to make sure it was not coming out. i was like OMG, but. it sounded fun, i may do that. anyway. just take your time, and dont over tighten. imo thats a key. the issue with the plastic parts is the zip ties can pull thru if the platic grip part was cutt close to an edge..
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:17 PM   #13
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Yeah, something tougher is needed. Maybe that stuff TufB mentioned or JB Weld.

This is the principal problem with the DIY version of this mod, and why many folks eventually convert to a "real" grille insert.
I agree. Don't understand cheapin it on this mod that needs to last.
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Old 06-18-2012, 02:20 PM   #14
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I have seven pieces of mesh that I cut. They overlap each other. I must be over tightening the zip ties I'll try doing that over. What are you guys using for paint?
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:02 PM   #15
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I just finished this mod. Boy oh boy I cleaned the hell out of the grille, sand papered it and everything else. I still couldn't get the tabs to stick, so I used some apoxy around the edges on the ones that kept popping out. Then I got some gorilla glue and smothered the bottom and edges of the tabs on the others, those things are not gonna move, however the backside of my grille doesn't look so pretty, its full of the gorilla glue foaming out the sides of the tabs, and apoxy all over the place. But no one can see that. I did set my turn signal on the floor and stepped on it. This simple mod turned into a 2 day project.

All in all apoxy/gorilla glue the hell outta the tabs, let em sit then thread through the zip ties it should work just fine.
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Old 06-18-2012, 03:45 PM   #16
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I've just been using the double stick tape on the ziptie anchors. If they pop off, I just redo it with a new zip tie anchor. With as much moneyI've put into my rig, I just can't get myself to spend 200 bucks on something I did with 20.
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Old 06-18-2012, 09:51 PM   #17
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I used gorilla glue on my anchors. Did it a little over a month ago. I have had no problems with it. I let the anchors set over night and I peeled off the double sided sticky tape to ensure plastic to plastic contact. I guess we'll see how long it holds.
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Old 06-18-2012, 10:19 PM   #18
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I used super glue at first and it wore off in about a month. Then I tried Gorilla Glue and that lasted about a month also. What I found to work best is JB Weld. It's been on for about 3 months and and still holding strong.

Good Luck.

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