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Old 08-11-2013, 05:13 PM   #1
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Grrrrrrr! I HATE MUD!

So lost my mind the other day and decided to run through some mud while wheeling with some great WF guys. I Hit the mud hole that didn't look too bad on the surface but got swallowed up.
Once I got pulled out we had a fun day on the hills and sand pits.
I get home and wash the massive amount of mud from the undercarriage and off the paint and as the Jeep dries I have all these hazy spots all over my hood and doors where ever there was large hunks of mud on the paint.
I tried some solvents with no luck. It appears that what ever was in that mud damaged the clear coat. I got my buffer out and some clear coat rubbing compound and it did help on a small portion of the hood but took a lot of rubbing and buffing.
Any of you guys got any suggestions on what to use?? How about a clay Bar? Help?!
The Area is close to a major highway which makes me guess there was possibly some oil, acids or solvents in the run off into that area.

Here's some pics. I'm at work so I took them in the parking garage at work where the light is not ideal, but you'll get the idea.

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Old 08-11-2013, 06:13 PM   #2
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Crazy. Never seen that before. Glad I bypassed mud for once! Lol
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #3
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cover the whole jeep in mud and then it will not be noticable
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:23 PM   #4
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I've played in mud a lot over the years and never saw anything like that.....usually I just power wash and quick hand soaping....pressure wash it off and it's like new.
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:33 PM   #5
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cover the whole jeep in mud and then it will not be noticable
Yea and call it a "matte" finish! Why didn't I think of that.
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Clay bar works great. Mud I prefer to not do
For cleaning- I find it easier to let try and brush off or just smack the flares, let it fall out. Water + mud = mess
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Crazy. Never seen that before. Glad I bypassed mud for once! Lol
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Lol! Gotta be some dummy to test out the water first.
I should have passed like I usually do.
Wheeling's like sex, when you haven't done it for a while you tend to get a little overzelous!!
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Old 08-11-2013, 06:38 PM   #8
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Clay bar works great. Mud I prefer to not do
For cleaning- I find it easier to let try and brush off or just smack the flares, let it fall out. Water + mud = mess
Thanks kjeeper, I'll pick up one tomorrow and try it out.
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:46 PM   #9
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If the clay bar doesn't work you might want to try a product called "Swirl and Haze Remover" from Adams Polishes. This stuff works wonders but if the clear coat is damaged then you might be SOL. Good luck!
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Old 08-11-2013, 08:49 PM   #10
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Worse comes to worse you could try wet sanding, but that's a last resort and you need to be pretty careful. I use 2000 grade sandpaper, then rubbing compound, then polish, then wax when I do it.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:28 PM   #11
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How did the fenders and other plastic parts do? I've seen mud stain the metal parts on a couple of 4 wheelers, but not the plastic. Weird.

Sorry I don't have a fix, just curious about the plastic thing.
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Old 08-11-2013, 09:29 PM   #12
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Ugh...good thing we have mountain trails and roads, so I don't have to go play in the mud. Maybe someone dumped some chemical in there...trying to get rid of it.
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Old 08-11-2013, 10:10 PM   #13
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That's why I got Kevlar paint. Couldn't imagine abusing the paint on a new jeep. If clay bar does not work, try pinnacle wax products. Their finishing and swirl remover should take care of it.
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Old 08-11-2013, 10:32 PM   #14
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Man that sucks. I just lifted mine and WAS looking foward to hitting up some mud
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Man that sucks. I just lifted mine and WAS looking foward to hitting up some mud
Don't be afraid of mud. This is an isolated incident. I mud a ton, and never came across this. Ironically I bypassed this hole that day (I took pic!).
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Mud here stains the plastic pieces and the powdercoated metal, SimpleGreen to the rescue for those but don't think that will be a solution for paint issues.
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Old 08-11-2013, 11:49 PM   #17
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Maybe some chemicals or gas got into the water/mud. Really the only thing I can think of.

On a side note I don't completely avoid it but I don't go out looking for mud. That stuff going in every nook and cranny in the undercarriage can't be that great for a lot of the stuff. Either way when I do go through it I always go to the wash and blast the undercarriage.
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Old 08-12-2013, 08:24 AM   #18
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It probably was some isolated thing where maybe something was leaked on the highway, possibly even years ago and got churned up when the hole got deep enough.
My plastisic fenders and rear bumper were ok. My black wheels are also ok. Just seemed to affect the clear coat. I'll try some of your suggestions today and report back any results tonight. I'm pinning most of my hopes on the clay bar.
Thanks everyone.
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I don't think a clay bar will help much, but it can't hurt either. Try a good cleaner wax.
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Good luck.. My wife thought she would be funny and run right through an alabama red clay mudpit one time in my jeep. Yea, I'm still trying to get that crap off of my softop and fender flares. She needs to screw up her jeep and not mine.
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I think you might be hosed. If the mud was acidic (likely) like bird poo it could have permanently etched your clear coat. This is why I try to avoid mud at all costs if I can.
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if the clay bar doesn't work you might want to try a product called "swirl and haze remover" from adams polishes. This stuff works wonders but if the clear coat is damaged then you might be sol. Good luck!
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I live in FL too and when I go mudding I have the same problem. It goes away with a couple washes but the soft top never loses the marks. Just leave it outside for the summer rain to get it for a couple days and then wash it again. Hopefully that helps
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I live in FL too and when I go mudding I have the same problem. It goes away with a couple washes but the soft top never loses the marks. Just leave it outside for the summer rain to get it for a couple days and then wash it again. Hopefully that helps
I remember having this issue when I lived in FL and it eventually would go away like mentioned but it took forever to come out of the soft top. Not sure what was in it but it would stain clothes or anything it touched...
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Mothers Powerball on a drill and scratchx 2.0 by meguiars. Should cut the clear coat enough to take it out if its not too deep.
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Old 08-12-2013, 12:02 PM   #26
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I mud a lot in Florida and it always just washes off, however, I clay and wax the Jeep along with the BMW at least 3 times a year. I use Pinnacle products/waxes seem to be the best.
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Don't be afraid of mud. This is an isolated incident.
No, it's not.

This exact same thing happened to me, except it's only on the plastic painted parts (fenders, grill, hard top). Same "splotchy" look.

Clay bar didn't do squat to help out. Seems like the clear coat is jacked.
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I don't think a clay bar will help much, but it can't hurt either. Try a good cleaner wax.
You're right. The guy at the parts store looked at it and said that the clear coat was etched and gave me a more abrasive 3M rubbing compound.
I did the spots by hand with the 3M and then used the less abrasive clear coat rubbing compound on my orbital buffer and buffed it off then put on a final polish and used my high speed buffer to finish it off. Took about 3 hrs to do the hood and doors but it took about 99% of the etching out.
So yea, no mud when possible for me.
Might be a little hard to see in the shade on this pic, but I'm pleased with the results.
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wow this forum is great I just learned you need to wash jeeps and stay out of the mud with them--quite a concept for a maine boy
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You're right. The guy at the parts store looked at it and said that the clear coat was etched and gave me a more abrasive 3M rubbing compound.
I did the spots by hand with the 3M and then used the less abrasive clear coat rubbing compound on my orbital buffer and buffed it off then put on a final polish and used my high speed buffer to finish it off. Took about 3 hrs to do the hood and doors but it took about 99% of the etching out.
So yea, no mud when possible for me.
Might be a little hard to see in the shade on this pic, but I'm pleased with the results.
Great. Glad most of it came out.

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