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Old 04-05-2014, 09:44 AM   #1
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Hardtop in Minn Winter - Cold?

Newbie looking at first jeep, new JKU, were pretty well set on a sport and sales guy mentioned even with a hardtop in a Minn winter this will be colder than your average vehicle, but did add by turning teh vents a certain way it woud be OK.

This has my wife all concerned as she is quite the cold baby and she is now thinking we will need heated seats, blowing up the sport plan and now looking at Sahara's, more $$$ all for this one option. BTW aftermarket seat heater not an option, will go with factory if at all.

Question is how cold are the hardtops in a northern climate, we get to -20.

Also much real world driving experience difference Sahara to Sport, Sahara says upgraded suspension. Drove a SPort yesterday and felt good to me.

Lastly, will evnetually want a soft top, get it new with purchase or wait and buy on ebay or CL? Assume many people do not use and sell cheaper.

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Old 04-05-2014, 09:48 AM   #2
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I'm in MN and I just got my first Jeep. The Jeep heater will cook you if you want it too, you will be fine.

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Old 04-05-2014, 09:50 AM   #3
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Hello neighbor. Im From Wisconsin and the hard top does just fine kept me warm this winter and you know what kind of winter we had. With the hard top on its just like any other vehicle when it's that cold. Just keep the heaters going
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Hello neighbor. Im From Wisconsin and the hard top does just fine kept me warm this winter and you know what kind of winter we had. With the hard top on its just like any other vehicle when it's that cold. Just keep the heaters going
Thanks guys, big help.... if you were fine this winter it will be OK for any winter, was a tough one! Will go sans seat heaters then and stick with original plan.
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I think you'll be fine as well though the heated seats are real nice for when you first get in. As for the top, definitely get the hard top only. You can get aftermarket or as you said factory from someone else cheaper later.
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I've had my soft top be warm on the lowest fan setting in -25* temps. Haven't had my hard top that low but it is a little better insulated
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:41 AM   #7
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We had our fair share of cold here in NY also and the heater did just fine but I will say that I do love me some heated seats, never had them before and I am hooked, I like the extra bells and whistles the Sahara has to offer.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:51 AM   #8
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IMHO if you are determined to get a softtop anyway, just get the dual top package and be done with it. The hard part of finding a used softtop, although cheap, is getting a complete top with all the extra brackets and door surrounds. One trip to a dealer to order a missing piece and your savings are gone.

The hardtop is another story. Definitely better off to buy that on the new Jeep.
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Plus, you can add heated seats after the fact if you need to.
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Factory hardtop for sure. and I would get dual top option and just be done with it. You will be able to find a soft top via craigslist cheaper, but it will require some patience to find exactly what you want. Regarding the heat you will be fine with either top in the winter.
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I'm in MN and I just got my first Jeep. The Jeep heater will cook you if you want it too, you will be fine.
Im also in mn, i have a soft top and the heater kicks in quite quick, whichever one you pick it will be just fine temperature wise.
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MN here too. 2nd Wrangler, no issues with the cold at all. Wouldn't give it a second thought!
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Old 04-05-2014, 05:39 PM   #13
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I have always thought with the great heater it was fine, my wife not so much
...but I have heated seats which helps her a lot and I just added some Hot Head head liners and now she doesn't seem to complain much anymore. Having said that she still prefers her Grand Cherokee.
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Hard top is fine. I knew people who ran soft tops in MN all winter.
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Appreciate all the input, we worked with a dealer today and looks like we are going to order one, tough to find copperhead sport with 3.73 and couple other options we want. Will be taking the concensus advice and doing the dual top right away, way things go for me I'd buy soft top from private party and be missing all sorts of parts, not worth it. And really one big benefit of this whole jeep idea is summer top down, hell of alot easier to do with the soft top.
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I live in central Alberta and all I have is a soft top. Never had a problem with being to cold as long as you let the cab get warm before you start driving. Wish I had the hard top to make it easier to get into the back when it's covered in ice and snow. Also put my snow brush through the plastic window of the soft top when it was -40. Haha
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I'm in MN and I just got my first Jeep. The Jeep heater will cook you if you want it too, you will be fine.

I concur. I am north of you in Manitoba Canada and had no issues with the cold this winter (BRUTALLY cold).

The heater is up for the task, but without a doubt with better insulation you would be able to turn down the fan. I will likely add some insulation for sound/better heat retention over the summer.

I have heated seats and they really sucked at the beginning, but somehow appear to working better over time.

The passengers in the rear don't complain about being cold in the winter either.
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I would run the hard top in the winter in Minnesota if I had a hard top because of the wiper and the rear defrost. But otherwise, it's not a big deal. The heater is good, especially if you have heated seats, and the soft top shakes the snow off just with a knock or two.
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Old 04-05-2014, 10:06 PM   #19
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With the hard top you can also add an after market headliner to help insulate and reduce road noise. I think mine helps, but a MN winter is a bit more severe than northern CA.

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It all depends on where you park and how you use the vehicle.

I love my hard top in the winter (I have Hotheads and heated seats as well)....but I also park outside and I have drop off duties for our 9 month old at day care in the morning...so the cabin HAS to be warm.

If I parked in my garage, it would be much easier to deal with a soft top (from a heat perspective).
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One thing I have learned from 33 years of marriage "get the seat heaters". If that is all it takes to have your wife LOVE your Jeep go with the Sahara and dual top option. If you don't I guarantee you will pay for the "cold Jeep" as it will always be the "cold Jeep."

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One thing I have learned from 33 years of marriage "get the seat heaters". If that is all it takes to have your wife LOVE your Jeep go with the Sahara and dual top option. If you don't I guarantee you will pay for the "cold Jeep" as it will always be the "cold Jeep."

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I don't live there but north jersey has its fair share of cold winter weather. The hardtop will be fine!! I'm pretty sure the jku heater is straight from hells furnace. That thing will cook your face. Even when it was 1 degree here and I was leaving for work at 5am I couldn't have the heater more than half power. I'd get the sport and add mopar remote start and heated cloth seats. That's my set up and I could not be happier or warmer
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i live in michigan, never had an issue with staying warm in my hard top. prefer it to my KJ liberty actually, and that bitch had heated seats. I just do what my old man says and sack up, tell the kid that every morning on the way to school (parent of the year right here)
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You'll be fine

North Dakota here. I've never had a problem with the cold winters. The heater kicks out more than enough heat for me. The CJ7 w/ the soft top we had when I was a kid was an icebox. We had a stack of blankets in the backseat to make up for lack of heater output.

+1 for the seat heaters for the Mrs., money well spent

As for the dual tops, I ordered the hardtop only from the factory and use a Bestop Trektop for the summer months.
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I have a soft top and live in the Minneapolis area. I park outside all winter and have no issues. I do have remote start.

The heat really blows in these things. I have the top down now for the rest of the week.
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With the hard top you can also add an after market headliner to help insulate and reduce road noise. I think mine helps, but a MN winter is a bit more severe than northern CA.

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Mine are the mopar headliner set which includes back window surrounds. They are not as thick as the hotheads brand but they have a good finished look to them. I read a couple comments from folks that they had to trim the hotheads to fit properly. No issue with these.

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