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Old 04-09-2012, 02:15 AM   #61
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Wow this is exactly what I needed. I'd been plotting to build something to set my top on against the side of the house and cover it with a tarp for the summer. This makes it even easier. Quick side question, anyone see any issues with the top sitting outside in a fairly shaded side of the house under a tarp for 3-4 months? It gets into the upper 90's to 100 here. I don't want any weird warping issues with the top sitting vertical like that.

When I say shaded I mean the top will probably see very little sunlight except some indirect light maybe later in the day. It's a west facing wall with another two story house right next door so pretty much no direct sun is what I'm trying to say.

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Old 04-09-2012, 12:12 PM   #62
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I built this cart weekend before last and then waited to get my hoist installed in the garage this past Saturday before I attempted to use it since I live alone. While the cart worked, I would not recommend that anyone with a color-matched hardtop use this...especially if you do not have anyone to help you take this from the hoist to the cart (which kinda defeats the purpose of a hoist/cart combo).

Because the thin lip of fiberglass on the back of the hardtop takes the weight when you flip the hardtop upright, that lip can flex and that means the paint can flex...and can crack.

This cart is not intended to have the back of the hardtop ride on top of the front 2x4, it's made so that the areas to the sides of the glass window actually rest on the side 2x4s. That front 2x4 is basically a backstop to keep it in place. Flipping this from a horizontal position can cause a pinching action as well as some grinding against the side 2x4. So if you are not planning on picking the entire top up to make it vertical and then sitting it down gently on that 2x4 joint, then beware of what could happen.

If you decide to use it anyway, I would say that at a minimum you need to make sure you carpet that area where the front 2x4 meets the side 2x4 and be sure there is absolutely no gap there for the lip to catch in. That way when you go to flip it upright, it will keep the potential for pinching and abrasion to a minimum.

I will stress that the cart does work, it's just that I experienced a slight crack in the paint from fiberglass flex and after a several moments of sadness (and near tears), I had to reevaluate it's usefulness (and strategically affix a sticker there )

I did think about this for a day and then on Sunday I decided to remove the two stacks of 6" 2x4 risers and extend the width of that end with a 6 foot length of thick PVC pipe with carpet over it so the front of the hardtop can rest on it in the horizontal position. It still rolls around nicely, it just takes up a little more room in my garage since it is not upright. Not much though since it's a 2-dr JK.

So in the end I just had to realize many scars and blemishes are in my future as I take it off-road more. I'm just glad that the thin crack wasn't a snapped off piece of fiberglass.

Hope this helps someone avoid a little sadness!

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Never even considered that with a painted hard top. Once I got my black hard top to sit properly it seemed like it "found its balance".
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:34 AM   #64
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Thanks for the heads up on the painted tops. I was gonna build this cart this weekend but now I'm reconsidering.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:11 PM   #65
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I built this cart weekend before last and then waited to get my hoist installed in the garage this past Saturday before I attempted to use it since I live alone. While the cart worked, I would not recommend that anyone with a color-matched hardtop use this...especially if you do not have anyone to help you take this from the hoist to the cart (which kinda defeats the purpose of a hoist/cart combo).

Because the thin lip of fiberglass on the back of the hardtop takes the weight when you flip the hardtop upright, that lip can flex and that means the paint can flex...and can crack.

This cart is not intended to have the back of the hardtop ride on top of the front 2x4, it's made so that the areas to the sides of the glass window actually rest on the side 2x4s. That front 2x4 is basically a backstop to keep it in place. Flipping this from a horizontal position can cause a pinching action as well as some grinding against the side 2x4. So if you are not planning on picking the entire top up to make it vertical and then sitting it down gently on that 2x4 joint, then beware of what could happen.

If you decide to use it anyway, I would say that at a minimum you need to make sure you carpet that area where the front 2x4 meets the side 2x4 and be sure there is absolutely no gap there for the lip to catch in. That way when you go to flip it upright, it will keep the potential for pinching and abrasion to a minimum.

I will stress that the cart does work, it's just that I experienced a slight crack in the paint from fiberglass flex and after a several moments of sadness (and near tears), I had to reevaluate it's usefulness (and strategically affix a sticker there )

I did think about this for a day and then on Sunday I decided to remove the two stacks of 6" 2x4 risers and extend the width of that end with a 6 foot length of thick PVC pipe with carpet over it so the front of the hardtop can rest on it in the horizontal position. It still rolls around nicely, it just takes up a little more room in my garage since it is not upright. Not much though since it's a 2-dr JK.

So in the end I just had to realize many scars and blemishes are in my future as I take it off-road more. I'm just glad that the thin crack wasn't a snapped off piece of fiberglass.

Hope this helps someone avoid a little sadness!
Very good point. Its the one area that I don't have carpeted. Maybe an even better solution would be to rest the lip of the hardtop on pieces of carpet so when you tilt it the only thing that slides is the pieces of carpet.
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:14 PM   #66
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Very good point. Its the one area that I don't have carpeted. Maybe an even better solution would be to rest the lip of the hardtop on pieces of carpet so when you tilt it the only thing that slides is the pieces of carpet.
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:13 PM   #67
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Very good point. Its the one area that I don't have carpeted. Maybe an even better solution would be to rest the lip of the hardtop on pieces of carpet so when you tilt it the only thing that slides is the pieces of carpet.
When these plans came out I bet color hard tops was not an option, Glad I ordered black hard top, should have a caveat on these instructions for colored hard tops. Great info here tks
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:18 PM   #68
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I build this this weekend, and it may be the best mod ever for my Jeep! Any ideas for what to do with the other two pieces of a 3 piece top?
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Old 04-22-2012, 03:31 PM   #69
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I thought about building the storage cart, but decided to purchase the winch/hoist and store up in the rafters of the garage. To me having the top up in the air and scrured is better than having it on a rack with casters. Now it can't get bumped or moved. Plus with the painted top, I don't want it flexing and cracking the paint.

Got it hoisted up and stored all by myself too, which is nice. No need for help to take off and put on.
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Old 05-09-2012, 08:06 PM   #70
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Built one of these today. Followed the instructions then lined it with some high traffic carpet I had laying around the shop. Once I installed the top on it put some floormats down and laid my freedom panels down on them. Then strapped it all up and wheeled it out of the way. Couldn't be happier

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Old 05-19-2012, 12:18 PM   #71
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so it seems the link no longer works. could someone possibly pm me if they have a PDF copy of it? Looking to build this puppy soon, thanks!
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Old 05-19-2012, 02:47 PM   #72
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Here it is!!!!
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Old 05-19-2012, 07:55 PM   #73
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Was really disappointed on first page when link didnt work. But continued reading and was very happy it was brought up today and even more happy deepair3 posted the instructions. Thanks guys, this is happening in the next few days for sure. Right now my top is in the garage on a extra twin mattress we had out there and taking up a bunch of room. So this will help alot.
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Old 05-21-2012, 03:27 PM   #74
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It looks like they still have the plans on their website they just want you to go through the checkout process (the product page used to actually have a download link). It's still free as near as I can tell without creating an account to actually check out with .
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Old 05-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #75
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Thanks for the info! Just finished mine. I might add some more felt along the other pieces like some of the other photos. They look really nice.
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Old 06-23-2012, 12:52 PM   #76
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can some please send me the pdf plans to sgtkuzma20@YAHOO.COM I am having trouble opening it from the link
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Old 06-23-2012, 09:25 PM   #77
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Old 07-03-2012, 01:00 PM   #78
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Built mine and took the hard top off for the first time today. Seems to work great, but I'm a bit concerned about the glass. The 1x2 bows a bit from the weight of the top.

Is anyone concerned about this being too much pressure for the glass to handle? I'd hate to look one day and find a shattered or cracked rear window!
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what can't i find the instructions???
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what can't i find the instructions???
Genius... look 2 or 3 posts above yours. The link worked when I hit it. If it doen't, email me at deepair3@aol.com. I will send you a copy.
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Thanks guys, this is great! I just got into a 13 Unlimited with the Matching body color paint and I am a little more nervous about this one than my 09 - 2 door top that was black. Think I need to be a little more cautious with this one (and the money for storage units I am seeing is amazing...) Maybe I should just make and sell them for a living...
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The link doesn't work anymore. Can someone repost the directions or send them to me?
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I used this last year with my painted hard top - no issues whatsoever. I checked it almost every other day - the hard top is solid enough so it wont bend and crack the paint, IMO.
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The link doesn't work anymore. Can someone repost the directions or send them to me?
Try the one in My post # 77. It's 7 above this one. I tried it and it still works.
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Try the one in My post # 77. It's 7 above this one. I tried it and it still works.

Thanks. Missed that one.
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Thanks to everyone for the directions and tips. $46 for parts and materials at HD (I got the 2 1/2" casters with brakes...$6.48/ea). Besides stripping the first 3" screw, it went according to plans. With padding it'll be ready for its first tenant.
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So what's the verdict on this dolly with painted hardtops? Would one of the pre built models on quadratec be a safer option?

I also can't find the working link to the plans in this thread. Maybe it's something to do with the mobile app.
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I also can't find the working link to the plans in this thread. Maybe it's something to do with the mobile app.
I just downloaded the instructions from post #77 on my home computer. It may be a mobile app issue.

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