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Old 07-27-2011, 12:38 AM   #1
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I would just like to say that re-attaching the Sunrider feature of my 2011 2-door Wrangler after having it open is a HUGE PITA!! It took me 2 friggin' hours to get it re-attached (working totally alone) after finally figuring out that I needed to unzip all three windows and unhook the rear quarter panel sail cloths in order to re-hook the header latches.

I FINALLY managed to get it re-attached (after several choice words, a bruised inner right elbow from standing on the ground inside the door jamb while "trying" to hold the top down enough to latch, and a couple of scraped knuckles). This is the first time I have attempted to do this......will somebody PLEASE tell me this gets easier?

I also made the mistake of pressing that little clip that sits above both doors thinking that this released the sleeve that slides forward only to find out that it does nothing unless you are totally removing the top. I am hoping that after I got the top reattached that the pins on these clips are back in the hole they belong in. Is there a way to check this since they are almost impossible to see into? I did hear a "click" on the passenger side after latching the header latches and sliding the sleeve back a little further where it belonged, but not sure about the driver side.

Also, right at the corners of the soft top in the front above the doors I noticed this grey sticky type of foam "weatherstripping" (memory type foam) that managed to stick to itself on the passenger side (there is some on the underside of the corner of the soft top as well as some on the frame) that I had to carefully pry apart in order to leave each piece of foam where it belonged. Consequently, the bottom piece of foam on the frame is all "mashed" down and I am afraid it will not keep out the wind, rain, and snow (when it falls) unless it "pops" back up again. However, I did notice that the top is on pretty tight and I could see the foam between the bottom of the top and the window channel --a good sign I hope. Any suggestions to keep this from happening every time I use the Sunrider feature?

And last.....how many of you managed to nick/scrape some of the paint off on the loop that the header latches hook onto while attempting to latch them because you were only 1/8 inch from latching it? Any way to prevent this from happening?

Thanks for all of your answers and suggestions.

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Old 07-27-2011, 01:53 AM   #2
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I feel your pain, I have been through it also.
Sounds like you may have been driving a tad fast with the Sunrider top open and the back window in still? This can cause the whole top to shift back/sag a bit, and make re-attaching it near impossible without undoing everything.

And yep, you hear a click when those pins slot into place, and then you can't push the top upwards at that section.

Regarding the foam - one strip of mine stuck permanently to the top of the windscreen, and I haven't bothered trying to fix it. Haven't had any leak/noise problems.
Haven't had paint problems on the header loop (not that I've noticed). You shouldn't have any more issues once you get the hang of it.

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Old 07-27-2011, 05:23 AM   #3
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Are you dropping the rear window? If not, open it whenever driving sun rider style, it relieves the air pressure build- up when driving. I saw a young lady driving on the highway the other day doing 75 with sun rider position, and rear windows in.... Oppps.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:20 AM   #4
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Wow. All of that was caused by you releasing the latch above the door. Your manual states that you should not drive above 40 with the sunrider open unless you remove the rear window.

Once those pins are released you really have no recourse but to completely lower the top and raise it again.
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:46 AM   #5
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Sorry for the confusion......
I didn't even get out of the parking garage after I put the Sunrider top down because I could not find the straps to hold the top down. After becoming frustrated, I had to put the Sunrider back up. This is where the "fun" mentioned above began. And to add insult to injury (literally), I found the *?%&* straps when I got home neatly tucked in the center console on the very bottom. I also discovered that I somehow scratched my rear window when I had unzipped it to get the header latches to close. Not badly, but I can faintly feel them when carefully running a fingernail over them.

Daggo - So what you're saying is that I should just totally leave those clips alone unless fully dropping the top, correct? Also, what is the best product on the market I can buy for the window scratches as mentioned above?

Last thing......will factory-matched touch up paint be an OK remedy to fix the scratches on the loops the header latches hook into? Right now, there is not much scratched off, but it is down to the metal. I just don't want it to rust, and I don't know if the factory-matched little bottle of touch up paint would be OK for this small job. Anybody know if it has primer and clear coat mixed in with the paint?

Thank you!
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:23 AM   #6
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Daggo - So what you're saying is that I should just totally leave those clips alone unless fully dropping the top, correct? Also, what is the best product on the market I can buy for the window scratches as mentioned above?
Yes! Those are known as the Sunrider latches for a reason! The must me connected to use the sunrider unless you want your top to become a parachute. This is the stuff to use on your wondow scratches. NOVUS Plastic Polish

Touch up paint would be fine on the header loops, but they will wear of the paint eventually anyway. Mine have't shown the least bit of rust in just over 2 years now, so don't sweat it.
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Old 07-27-2011, 09:55 AM   #7
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Thanks Daggo! I'm going to pick me up some of the Novus for my windows and give it a whirl. On that note, any good products for minor paint scratches?

I didn't realize that the header latches would eventually wear off the paint on the loops (even without my assistance ), so I'm not even going to worry about it. I'll just hit them with a little touch up paint now and again for my own piece of mind. The next time I lower the Sunrider, I'll DEFINITELY remember not to touch those darn clips above the doors. Right now, the top is completely closed. Do you know of a way that I can check to make sure the pins and clips are how they belong without totally taking the whole top down? I am thinking maybe opening the Sunrider again and checking by standing on a step ladder. I just don't want to damage anything by not making sure they are in place.

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Old 07-27-2011, 10:08 AM   #8
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If you release the header latches and the top doesn't fall backward, they are attached. You will usually hear a click when they engage.
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OK. I think I understand. After releasing the header latches and sliding the sleeves forward, if the front part does not want to fold back easily, then the clips above the doors are secure, correct?
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Oh wait! You mean if you're actually lowering the whole top and not the Sunrider part, right? I forgot the clips NEED to be attached in order to use the Sunrider.
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Ok, I have a question. I spent many hours assembling my sunrider and installing it. I even watched the videos on the Jeep website to see how to operate the thing. Here's my issue: the straps that are included in my kit in no way resemble the ones in the video (well, they are black). The ones in the video are velcro straps; mine are a closed loop with a snap at one end. Where is this supposed to snap in to? I've looked everywhere and can't find it. I'm assuming the straps are pretty critical to make sure the whole top doesn't get folded back. I'd like to open just the sunrider portion but don't dare to until I find out where that strap goes. Thanks.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:37 AM   #12
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Oh wait! You mean if you're actually lowering the whole top and not the Sunrider part, right? I forgot the clips NEED to be attached in order to use the Sunrider.
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Ok, I have a question. I spent many hours assembling my sunrider and installing it. I even watched the videos on the Jeep website to see how to operate the thing. Here's my issue: the straps that are included in my kit in no way resemble the ones in the video (well, they are black). The ones in the video are velcro straps; mine are a closed loop with a snap at one end. Where is this supposed to snap in to? I've looked everywhere and can't find it. I'm assuming the straps are pretty critical to make sure the whole top doesn't get folded back. I'd like to open just the sunrider portion but don't dare to until I find out where that strap goes. Thanks.
The straps you have are to hold the rear window in place when you roll it up. Throw them away. Do not roll up your rear window unless you don't mind scratches and eventual cracking.

The straps you are looking for are either in your glove box, console, or rear storage box. The are plain balck straps with velcro, about 1 inch wide and 6 inches long. They will no hold the top from folding all the way down, that is what the side latches do. they will hold you sunrider bows together to keep them from rattling and prevent a gust of wind from picking the whole thing up and turning it into a sail.

I also use them to keep the bows from rattling when the top is completely lowered. There is a slot along the back side of the tub where they fit through.
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The straps you have are to hold the rear window in place when you roll it up. Throw them away. Do not roll up your rear window unless you don't mind scratches and eventual cracking.

The straps you are looking for are either in your glove box, console, or rear storage box. The are plain balck straps with velcro, about 1 inch wide and 6 inches long. They will no hold the top from folding all the way down, that is what the side latches do. they will hold you sunrider bows together to keep them from rattling and prevent a gust of wind from picking the whole thing up and turning it into a sail.

I also use them to keep the bows from rattling when the top is completely lowered. There is a slot along the back side of the tub where they fit through.

Thanks, that makes more sense. I'll have to look again for the velcro straps. The elastic ones are the only ones that I could see that came out of the box.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:55 AM   #15
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They should have come with your Jeep if you bought it new. Mine was purchased new. The snap straps you're talking about snap above the rear window so that when you roll up the window (while still attached at the top), the straps wrap around under the window and snap into place to keep the window up. The velcro straps are what you need to secure the Sunrider top after folding it back. The dealer should give them to you if you purchased the Jeep new and they were not included.

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I purchased my sunrider from the dealer about a month after buying the Jeep. I decided to save some money and assemble and install it myself and those velcro straps were not in the box. Guess I'll have to go back to the dealer.
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I found a trick to get the header latches to hook without unzipping the windows.

-If you have a running board stand on it reach behind the headrest and grab the steel bow the top is attached to at the roof. (I don't have running boards I just stand on the doorframe.)

-Pull the bow hard toward the front with your right hand. Don't be afriad to put your foot by the door striker pin and really pull hard on it, it won't break.

-Grab the latch with your left and get the hook set while you have it pulled forward.
Don't latch it shut until you do the other side hokked the same way.

-Other side is the same. Stand on the side pull the bow right behind the speaker bar tight to the front and set the latch.

The latches reach about 2" when fully deployed, it helps.

After 3 or 4 times it gets easier.

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Old 07-28-2011, 04:09 PM   #18
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AWESOME!! I will definitely have to keep that little trick in mind the next time I use my soft top. Sure beats undoing half the darn top just to get the header latches to hook.

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