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Old 04-12-2014, 12:03 PM   #1
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Help!!! In Need of logical choice!

Good Afternoon wrangler friends.

Long story short, I bought a used 2012 JKU Sport three weeks ago and two weeks ago i found out that i bought from a shady dealer that did not do any updated maintenance that they said they would do as well as neglected to tell me there was the unfixed transmission coolant tube recall that hadnt been done on the Jeep. Needless to say, i requested my trade in vehicle and my money back on principle as well as at the direction of Jeep Corporate.

Unfortuatley i understand why now the price was low balled to me. oh well.

My question is as follows. I have wanted a jeep for a long time now and I thought that I had m heart set on the 2012+ 3.6L engine. However, looking at the actual priced vehicles, they are out of my price range. Would I be selling myself short if i "settle" for an 07-11 JKU? Or should i save up for a year and get a 12+? If you think I will be okay with an earlier model, what years should i avoid? READY GO!

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I just got my trans cooler lines replaced, it'll be free for jeep to do it. Didn't take them long either. What else is wrong with it?

Mines a 2010 and I love it.

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Old 04-12-2014, 12:11 PM   #3
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Recall repairs aren't limited to the original owner or warranty period. If you take it to a Jeep dealer, they will fix the recall for you. What other maintenance hasn't been done on the vehicle? It's only 2 years old.


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Old 04-12-2014, 12:12 PM   #4
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I just got my trans cooler lines replaced, it'll be free for jeep to do it. Didn't take them long either. What else is wrong with it?
All the area dealers had me 20+ in line and they are only allowed one per 7 day period... and the people at jeep corporate told me to take it back and they would deal with the dealership. They did not do anything maintenance wise like the sheet that I signed said they did and they admitted to it that it "must have just been missed" Trustworthiness = out the window
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What maintenance/ repairs did they not do? If its a warranty issue like the trans line that can be replaced for free. Other maintenance on that vehicle should just be oil changes or tires, nothing to try to get your money back over. I'd bring the jeep to another dealer to get the warranty work done and then you can either do fluid changes yourself or have that new dealer do it
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Old 04-12-2014, 01:28 PM   #6
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the issue isnt the jeep anymore i guess. corporate told me to take the vehicle back... the issuwe here is is it worth waiting to afford a 2012+ model or will i be happy with the performance of the pre 2012 engine. any years to avoid?
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I have an 09 and absolutely no complaints. It's no beast on power but i came to the jeep from a Mustang Saleen and a 350hp escalade and don't mind the 3.8 at all.
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Old 04-12-2014, 03:25 PM   #8
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Only you can answer your question. Find a 07-11 that you like and drive it extensively. Also, have a mechanic that you trust look it over. Don't assume that a Wrangler purchased from a dealer is going to be mechanically sound. Most car dealers, whether they are a small used car dealer or a new car dealer, are going to put very little time and effort into preparing a used car for sale.
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Having owned both, I greatly prefer the new motor. But you should definitely drive a pre-2012. The six speed manual works pretty well with the older motor, but the auto was a bit sluggish.

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I have a 2011. Last one on the lot brand new with 10 new 2012's. I drove both and picked the 2011 and never looked back or regretted it. No issues and I am happy.
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I have a 2011. Last one on the lot brand new with 10 new 2012's. I drove both and picked the 2011 and never looked back or regretted it. No issues and I am happy.
Do you have the Auto? Do you tow? Do you off road? Do you wish you had the 84 more HP?
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Do you have the Auto? Do you tow? Do you off road? Do you wish you had the 84 more HP?
It sounds to me that you already have your mind made up that you want a 2012 + but you just want to hear it from someone else. I have a 2012 and love it. No problems so far.
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I don't know why you're stressing over this. You apparently got a price in your price range on the Jeep that you wanted. Do whatever maintenance is required yourself and get the cooler tube replaced. I really don't see what the problem here is - if it were me I'd be proud that I got a 2012 at a low price and all I had to do was put a little bit of work in.
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i Was very proud. At the direction of Chrysler LLC, I instructed to take it back. I know I wasnt required to, but nothing felt right about the sale. I am just trying to hear about peoples experiences. No need to get testy!
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If I had bought my original 2008 with what I wanted, a manual trans Unlimited, I'd still have it. But I let my wife talk me into a 2-door autotrans.

Now that I have a '14 with manual, very happy.

The auto on the 3.8L was a bad mistake by Jeep. That would be my only caveat with an older model.
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Do you have the Auto? Do you tow? Do you off road? Do you wish you had the 84 more HP?
Yes on the auto. Most I tow is a 5x8 utility trailer with fourwheeler, etc. Occasional offroad, mostly daily driver. Does power compare to some vehicles I have owned? Of course not, but it suits my purposes. I didn't buy it to drag race.
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Good Afternoon wrangler friends.

Long story short, ....
Perhaps you should do the "Long" version cause I'm not "getting" the short one.

What you explained, happens to about half of all used cars sold: Outstanding recalls, shoddy maintenance etc. We all learn to deal with it. So If your remaining question is: Is the 2012+ model worth the extra $$$? Yes. If you find a pre 2012 for a good price with the options you want and color... go for it.

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As the left bar said, I am a NEWB. haha. Also a newb buying a used car. I have only even owned one vehicle ( my Truck) and I bought it brand new. I was very turned off when I found out that a Jeep Dealer didn't do that maintenance that Jeep Corporate said they were "required" to do. Understandbly, I attempted to get the maintance work and recalls done that they had "missed" and they refused to do anything and told me it would be a 35 week wait for the recall replacement. I didn't feel comfortable with my jeep so I have my truck back. I have decided on a 2012+ but now I am trying to convince myself to have self control and wait to get a New one...but at this point in time, I have the fever... and the only cure is to wrangle the road...and more cowbell! I found a 2012 stick with 48K miles on it for 25K from a dealership a few towns over...im trying to decide on if that is a good deal or not...
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I bought my 2012 2 door sport brand new for less than that. $25K is insane. Buy a new one at base model and build it up yourself.
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I'm not trying to offend you, but since you are admittedly new at purchasing vehicles, take someone with you who knows what they are doing. I'm guessing that English may not be your first language based on your writing style. It seems you have some confusion regarding recalls and required vs. suggested maintenance, as well as what a dealer should be required to do or not.
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^^^ agreed, dealers are not required to do maintenance work before selling a used vehicle... That is recommended maintenance not safety or driveability issues which they would be required to fix before selling. Maintenance is up to the buyer or you could try and work it into the deal before signing the papers when purchasing
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Most dealers are just pimps. Buy from a dealer you trust.
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When you find a good dealer, hold on. Cherish. Celebrate. Tell the world.

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