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Old 03-10-2011, 04:35 PM   #1
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Help! My New Jeep is leaking!!

I just bought a 2011 wrangler. The roof is not just leaking, the water is pouring in like crazy.... It's pouring in through the speaker bar and flooding in through the speaker, and the hole that the screw goes into to hold the roof down.

I never left the freedom top screws in on my 2008 jeep, and didn't on this one. I never had a leak like this.

If you don't screw down the hard top
Into the speaker bar with those big plastic screws, would it cause that muck leakage?

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Old 03-10-2011, 04:42 PM   #2
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You should try it & there's your answer. I wouldn't leave those out it's not a good idea & may not seal properly without them. If the problem is still there when the screws are installed take it back & tell them to fix it, pronto!

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I don't keep the screws in mine (2010) and I remove them at least weekly. Since I'm in FL, we have plenty of rain. Never had an issue (fingers crossed).

I'd look to see if one of the rear seals is rolled when you put the tops back on.
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I took it to the dealer and they are looking at it in the morning. It's the amount of water that leaked in that's alarming to me....
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Ya' seal can't be doing it's job properly
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Old 03-10-2011, 05:59 PM   #6
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Is it not sealing right because of the screws you think? Could my speakers have been damaged?
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Old 03-10-2011, 06:01 PM   #7
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I have a 2007 and even with the screws in it leaks in that spot. It has been dry the past few days and we have had a lot of rain. so maybe I finally have it positioned just right.

Do the soft tops leak? I've about had enough of the leaking from the freedom top. Looks great, has been nice all winter, but i'm over it.
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It wasn't just leaking, it's pouring in
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:00 PM   #9
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I have a 2009 4 dr JK and my freedom top has never leaked. I have a soft top for the summer and I use the hardtop for the winter. I would check your seals and tighten down the top using the screws.
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:35 PM   #10
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Yes, the soft tops leak. Search the forum.
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My '08 JKU has NEVER leaked and I figure, because I follow the correct procedure for re-installation of hardtop/"T" tops and the final security point is the two rear thumbscrews --FINGERTIGHT-

The overall purpose of the two thumbscrews, is to provide the final seal for the rear gaskets-to the hardtop and provide center stability for the hardtop-cause there's NOTHING ELSE !!

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My '08 JKU has NEVER leaked and I figure, because I follow the correct procedure for re-installation of hardtop/"T" tops and the final security point is the two rear thumbscrews --FINGERTIGHT-

The overall purpose of the two thumbscrews, is to provide the final seal for the rear gaskets-to the hardtop and provide center stability for the hardtop-cause there's NOTHING ELSE !!

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Exactly.

Seems obvious, but why wouldn't you use the screws? They serve a purpose...

Additionally, why wouldn't you just screw them back in and see if that fixed it, instead of hopping on your computer and posting on the forum while your Jeep was getting soaked... ?
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I screw mine in finger tight and still leak. but it is not consistent. this last round of rain, i leaked one day, reached up and tightened the side that leaked. no problem since.

the middle rubber piece on mine is twisted which is probably causing the leak on the dash.

other than that, my tops don't sit flush. about a 1mm higher than the rest of the top. I have a bunch of black foam and crap on there. not sure if it is supposed to be there or not. I am second owner.

I usually don't notice a leak until I back down the driveway which is at an incline, then it pours down on whatever child drew the short straw and is sitting in back.
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Yea, I'm afraid that you can try to use TOO MUCH gasket to stop a leak, but


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I screw mine in finger tight and still leak. but it is not consistent. this last round of rain, i leaked one day, reached up and tightened the side that leaked. no problem since.

the middle rubber piece on mine is twisted which is probably causing the leak on the dash.

other than that, my tops don't sit flush. about a 1mm higher than the rest of the top. I have a bunch of black foam and crap on there. not sure if it is supposed to be there or not. I am second owner.

I usually don't notice a leak until I back down the driveway which is at an incline, then it pours down on whatever child drew the short straw and is sitting in back.
You'll have to stand either on a ladder or the jeep sill and look ("T" tops OFF) at the mating edge of the HARDTOP, just forward of the rubber seal-there's a GROOVE that runs from port to stbd or right to left ALL THE WAY accross and it's the final drain groove, for any water that makes way thru the seals--see if that groove is "clear" all the way across !!

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I can do that Jimbo. thanks for the tip. I am going to take some pics of all the crap on my tops too. Maybe that stuff needs to be removed. or replaced. something.
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So it was a bad seal, and the water sloshing around was actually water inside the freedom top itself.

I had nothing but problems with my 2008 wrangler, and now it's happening again.

I will never buy another jeep. Suck bad quality and workmanship on two vehicles now
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a bad seal where?
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:55 AM   #18
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hmmm. Turns out the little rubber piece on the front clamps was missing on one panel and twisted on the other. probably not helping my leaking.

vismich, it's Jeep not a Lexus.
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hmmm. Turns out the little rubber piece on the front clamps was missing on one panel and twisted on the other. probably not helping my leaking.

vismich, it's Jeep not a Lexus.


thanks pal. It was a lot more than a leak. So I'm guessing because they put the name Jeep on it they can cut corners and make a crappy product?

Let me explain again...

Water was POURING into the car. Through my seams and through the speakers. There is water TRAPPED inside the hardtop as well, which also need to be replaced.

Is that a Jeep thing? Should I just say , "Ahh.... F@$# it's a jeep."

I have more self respect for myself than that buddy.
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So it was a bad seal, and the water sloshing around was actually water inside the freedom top itself.

I had nothing but problems with my 2008 wrangler, and now it's happening again.

I will never buy another jeep. Suck bad quality and workmanship on two vehicles now
It's a jeep thing, you obviously don't understand ha.
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vismich i'm sorry if I pissed you off. Not my intent. You may notice I also posted that I too have water pouring in the screw holes.

for what it is worth, this link came up in another thread about leaks. Not sure if it will help you directly, but i bet if you printed it out and put it in a service manager's hands, explained your problem, you might get some movement.

http://www.wkjeeps.com/misc/Wrangler..._Leaks_All.pdf

that thread is here: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/my-...ing-84239.html
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Old 03-15-2011, 09:30 AM   #22
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thanks asshole. It was a lot more than a leak. So I'm guessing because they put the name Jeep on it they can cut corners and make a crappy product?

Let me explain again...

Water was POURING into the car. Through my seams and through the speakers. There is water TRAPPED inside the hardtop as well, which also need to be replaced.

Is that a Jeep thing? Should I just say , "Ahh.... F@$# it's a jeep."

I have more self respect for myself than that buddy.
Easy man! I understand your frustration. I would be pi$$ed as well if water were pouring into my new $30Kish vehicle. I think you are misdirecting your frustration. Call your dealer and yell at them!
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:21 AM   #23
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Here is a TSB for you buddy
Project-JK.com - Jeep JK Wrangler Resource » Jeep JK TSB & Recalls
Look on January 6, 2007 to find your issue.

I can feel you...I JUST bought my first jeep the last week of Feb, 2010 Unlimited sport and yes it cost all the money I have and a lot I don't......2-3 weeks later I notice a little tiny drop of water on my dash right below where the left and right panels meet on the freedom top.

So far it seems like it might be false alarm....had monsoon rains for a week, and not a single drop more showed. But if it does, the dealer has to fix every single thing in that car that goes wrong due to workmanship, including the speakers, right???
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:26 PM   #24
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Traded my 08 JK in, and this was one of many reasons why. My 91 doesn't leak at all lol
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Old 09-03-2011, 07:28 PM   #25
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WARRANTY and if they fix it over and over lemon law comes into effect and they are forced to give you the full money you paid back or give you new car.
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is there a hole in the top, there is an recall notice that came out about premature wear and they put reinforcements inside the top to prevent wear, not sure if your having a problem in the same area
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Old 09-03-2011, 09:06 PM   #27
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I've been lucky without leaks so far, but did notice those screws seem to loosen up on there own over time. I reach up and check them once in a while and usually get a half turn to three quarters without any effort.
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is there a hole in the top, there is an recall notice that came out about premature wear and they put reinforcements inside the top to prevent wear, not sure if your having a problem in the same area
LOL jeep quality

CUSTOMER SATISFACTION NOTIFICATION L24
SOFT TOP PREMATURE WEAR AT ROOF BOWS
Dear: (Name)
At Chrysler Group LLC, you can be assured that we are changing the way we look at quality. To prove our commitment to quality, the company is investing in and prioritizing improvements for every vehicle that we build. As part of that commitment, we are also targeting existing vehicles on the road today and contacting our customers to provide these quality improvements, at no charge, that will help to improve your ownership satisfaction.
We are recommending the following improvements be performed on some 2010 and 2011 model year JeepWrangler vehicles equipped with 4 doors and a soft top or dual top. Recommended Service:
The soft top on your Jeep (VIN: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) may wear prematurely at the second and/or third roof bows.
What your dealer will do:
Chrysler will service your vehicle free of charge (parts and labor). To do this, your dealer will inspect the soft top for pin holes and/or tears at the second and third roof bows. All vehicles will receive roof bow shields to prevent excessive wear. Soft tops found with pin holes and/or tears will be replaced. Installing the shields will take about ˝ hour to complete. If the soft top requires replacement, an additional 1.5 hours will be required. We recommend that you make an appointment with your dealer to minimize your inconvenience.
What you should do:
Simply contact your Chrysler, Jeep, or Dodge dealer, at your convenience, to schedule a service appointment. Your dealer will collect the necessary information to ensure that the appropriate parts are available so your service can be completed in a timely manner. Although not required, we recommend bringing this letter with you to your dealer, when you bring your vehicle in for this service.
If you need help:
Please contact the Chrysler Customer Assistance Center at 1-800-853-1403.
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YUP Thats that one
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Old 09-04-2011, 08:14 AM   #30
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Wow...there are so many threads and reports of tops leaking on JK...Is this really such a huge problem with the JKs ?

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