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Old 04-12-2012, 02:06 PM
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Here We Go Again Bestop underseat storage box

hi
got today my bestop storage box
read allot about it........
allot guys have this storage box and everyone loveit
everyone compare BESTOP with TUFFY STORAGE BOX
BESTOP $55 TUFFY $115
WHY???MAYBE COZ BESTOP DONT HAVE FULL EXTENSION???
HERE IS WHAT I DID
VISIT HOME DEPOT AND BUY 16'' FULL EXTENSION BALL Bearing Drawer Slides
REMOVE SLIDES FRON BESTOP STORAGE BOX
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INSTALL NEW 16" FULL EXTENSION SLIDES
VERY NICE,GREAT SUCCESS

HERE IS SOME PICS
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lol, hopefully that stays shut...would hate to have the back of my feet smashed when I hit the brakes...cool mod though.

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hi
got today my bestop storage box
read allot about it........
allot guys have this storage box and everyone loveit
everyone compare BESTOP with TUFFY STORAGE BOX
BESTOP $55 TUFFY $115
WHY???MAYBE COZ BESTOP DONT HAVE FULL EXTENSION???
HERE IS WHAT I DID
VISIT HOME DEPOT AND BUY 16'' FULL EXTENSION BALL Bearing Drawer Slides
REMOVE SLIDES FRON BESTOP STORAGE BOX
AND
INSTALL NEW 16" FULL EXTENSION SLIDES
VERY NICE,GREAT SUCCESS

HERE IS SOME PICS

You've got guts! I have thought of that - I hate the short opening of the Bestop - but was afraid I'd just mess it up....

Did you have to drill new holes for mounting? What all was involved in attaching the new slides?

And, thanks for giving me the inspiration to look further into this mod!
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You've got guts! I have thought of that - I hate the short opening of the Bestop - but was afraid I'd just mess it up....

Did you have to drill new holes for mounting? What all was involved in attaching the new slides?

And, thanks for giving me the inspiration to look further into this mod!
I DID SOME NEW HOLES IN EACH SLIDES.VERY EASY TO DO, TOOK ME LIKE 30 MIN.
FUUL EXTENSION ITS GOOD WHO HAVE VERY BIG GUN
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FUUL EXTENSION ITS GOOD WHO HAVE VERY BIG GUN
Like the Pfeifer Zeliska 28mm revolver, perhaps?

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Like the Pfeifer Zeliska 28mm revolver, perhaps?
nice gun
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nice gun
I carry that one in an ankle holster.
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$55 vs $115

I would have to figure my time, what I make working per hour vs the parts, gas to go to the store, etc,. It would not work out for me.

I do understand that there would be a sense of accomplishment but it is kinda like reinventing the wheel. If you enjoyed doing it then I am glad for you.
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Kudos to a great idea for a mod!!

I got the Tuffy with a key lock, decided to change to their combi which they sent for decent price. Took longer than anticipated, but turned out to be a real pleasure as everything still works and I felt a sense of accomplishment, and can now go back to key lock very easily if desired.
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Nice mod, was thinking about doing this and happen to have some 16" full extension glides on hand.
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Vasyl, Thanks for the tip. Home Depot 16" full extension slide. UPC # 885785313138 $12.48.

You drill 4 holes in the slide, reinstall. Just did mine, about 30 minutes work. (unscrew bottom off box to see screws.)

Nice mod.
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no problemo. hey 5
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Did you install it yet?
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I carry that one in an ankle holster.
What does one carry to splint their wrist after firing?
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Nah, I don't know.

I bought the Bestop® Locking Under Seat Storage Box in Textured Black for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK Driver Side, Part No: 42640-01 and I bought the same drawer slides (detailed above) at Home Depot but...

the drawer slides are too tall on the narrow side of the Bestop Box so there's no room for vertical adjustment. I just don't see how to do this with the Bestop Box and the Drawer Slides listed above.

Anyone? Bueller?

By the way (not that it matters) the drawer slides that came with the Bestop Box are cheaper than the ones shown in this pic from the Quadratech website:

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Nah, I don't know.

I bought the Bestop® Locking Under Seat Storage Box in Textured Black for 07-14 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK Driver Side, Part No: 42640-01 and I bought the same drawer slides (detailed above) at Home Depot but...

the drawer slides are too tall on the narrow side of the Bestop Box so there's no room for vertical adjustment. I just don't see how to do this with the Bestop Box and the Drawer Slides listed above.

Anyone? Bueller?

By the way (not that it matters) the drawer slides that came with the Bestop Box are cheaper than the ones shown in this pic from the Quadratech website:

So, Tuffy it is!
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The quality of the Bestop Boxes is good IMO. The slides are OK but could be better quality like the ones shown in the Quadratec pic above.

So, after I gave up on putting the Home Depot triple extension slides into the Bestop Boxes I set about to put the two brackets on. The big bracket with the "ears" you see in the Quadratec picture was easy to screw onto the bottom of the Bestop Box.

But in the rear of the box a U-shaped support needs to be screwed onto the box and that's where I ran into problems. The holes in the U-shaped bracket did not match the 4 threaded holes in the bottom of the box. Actually, only 1 hole lined up while the other 3 did not.

So, I put both the Drivers side box and the Passenger side box back in their cartons and they're going back to 4WheelParts store here in Canoga Park, CA (Los Angeles area) tomorrow. I called Bestop and talked to them about it and the person I spoke to said this is the first he's heard of it.

When I get replacements from 4WheelParts I'll be sure to open the cartons at the store and make sure the bracket's holes match up to the box's holes.
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...I bought the Bestop® Locking Under Seat Storage Box i.... and I bought the same drawer slides (detailed above) at Home Depot but...

the drawer slides are too tall on the narrow side of the Bestop Box so there's no room for vertical adjustment. I just don't see how to do this with the Bestop Box and the Drawer Slides listed above.

Anyone? Bueller?

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So, Tuffy it is!
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The quality of the Bestop Boxes is good IMO. The slides are OK but could be better quality like the ones shown in the Quadratec pic above.

So, after I gave up on putting the Home Depot triple extension slides into the Bestop Boxes I set about to put the two brackets on. The big bracket with the "ears" you see in the Quadratec picture was easy to screw onto the bottom of the Bestop Box.

But in the rear of the box a U-shaped support needs to be screwed onto the box and that's where I ran into problems. The holes in the U-shaped bracket did not match the 4 threaded holes in the bottom of the box. Actually, only 1 hole lined up while the other 3 did not.

So, I put both the Drivers side box and the Passenger side box back in their cartons and they're going back to 4WheelParts store here in Canoga Park, CA (Los Angeles area) tomorrow. I called Bestop and talked to them about it and the person I spoke to said this is the first he's heard of it.

When I get replacements from 4WheelParts I'll be sure to open the cartons at the store and make sure the bracket's holes match up to the box's holes.
Don't give up!

If I can do this, anyone can! I just had to drill one new hole in each 16" slide to match the rear mounting holes in the Bestop box.

Here's a link to my post with pictures on an older thread on the Bestop Box:

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/und...ml#post4112517

Thanks again for the idea Vasyl! No reason to pay the high price of the Tuffy when the Bestop is so well made, but cheap and easy to make even better.
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I'm not giving up - I'm going with the Bestop Boxes as long as they can get me 2 of them that have the proper holes drilled in the support brackets.

As for putting new, replacement slides on the drawer, I'd still like to do that. But I don't see how it's possible to use the drawer slides from Home Depot as they're too tall and don't fit on the narrow (tapered) side of the Bestop Box.

I will look at trying the Accuride low profile drawer slides which are only 1.5" tall as I hope that will be narrow enough to fit in that tapered side of the box.

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?s...LER&page=10950

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I did it with Home Depot 16" full extension slide. UPC # 885785313138 $12.48. That UPC# will work (there were other 16" extensions that may not work)

You drill 4 holes in the slide, reinstall. Just did mine, about 30 minutes work. (unscrew bottom off box to see screws.)

Nice mod.

Since you want pictures:

The narrow side, and the full extension showing a large frame .460 S&W revolver (it's big). So this can be done with the correct slide and a drill.
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I believe I will have to add these slides to my Bestop boxes.
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I did it with Home Depot 16" full extension slide. UPC # 885785313138 $12.48. That UPC# will work (there were other 16" extensions that may not work)

You drill 4 holes in the slide, reinstall. Just did mine, about 30 minutes work. (unscrew bottom off box to see screws.)

Nice mod.

Since you want pictures:

The narrow side, and the full extension showing a large frame .460 S&W revolver (it's big). So this can be done with the correct slide and a drill.

What I can't figure out is how the drawer slide fits inside the box on the tapered side. There's not enough space for the slide to be adjusted up or down. Hmm, maybe I'll try it in the only spot that it fits.
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OK, I tried again and couldn't get it to work. I reinstalled the Accuride drawer slides (from Home Depot) and here are the problems:

1. Lip of drawer doesn't quite fit between or above the left & right slides screwed to the box side walls as shown installed (first pic below).

2. The drawer slide barely fits on the tapered side (inside) of the box. There's no wiggle room at all - none so it goes where it goes.

Here are a couple of pics of the box with the drawer slides installed. This first pic you can see how there's no room above the left and right slides for the lip of the drawer which would need to be on top, above the drawer slides. I could drop the slide on the right but the one on the left, the tapered side, can't be lowered at all:



Here you can see how the slide barely fits on the tapered side of the box. Note how the slide is actually blocked very slightly by the lip around the opening of the box end:



Here's a pic of the drawer slides:



Here's the Home Depot page:
Richelieu Hardware Accuride Full Extention Ball Bearing 16 in. Drawer Slide-T46322G16 at The Home Depot


If I can find a low profile 16" drawer slide it might work. The above Accuride slide from Home Depot is 1.5" tall so it'd have to be shorter than that.
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OK, I think this drawer slide could fit as it's 1.1" tall. It's a Knape and Vogt 4100P 16 drawer slide and they're a company owned by Lowe's so I'll go there tomorrow and see if they're in stock at Lowe's to buy a couple pair and give them a try:



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Probably should have gone with the Tuffy box considering how much time, money, and effort you've put in to this and it still doesn't work.
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Probably should have gone with the Tuffy box considering how much time, money, and effort you've put in to this and it still doesn't work.

Here's the thing: The Bestop Box works just fine the way it is. The drawer doesn't open all the way (well, almost all the way) and one reason is because it would restrict the floor space for your feet (of course no one would open this while driving but while sitting in the driver's seat is certainly likely).

I like the Bestop Box - the quality is very good in terms of design and finish.

I went down this road of trying to install new drawer slides because I thought it would be a simple matter of spending some time taking the box apart and putting in the new slides. Perhaps the Home Depot slides work fine on a previous version of the box or perhaps the slides used (above) are different than the ones I got (even though I used the same P/N).

Bottom line is the box is fine the way it's made. Accessing what's inside it isn't difficult without going with aftermarket drawer slides. I'm now "obsessed" with trying to find a drawer slide that I can do this with but if I can't find it soon I'll install the boxes just the way they are (and I bought two of them one for each side for about the cost of 1 Tuffy box).
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A Better Solution to New Drawer Slides?

So I liked the idea of new drawer slides for the Bestop boxes as the only drawback to the product seems to be the restricted access to the drawer interior.

But after trying twice - the 2nd time I bought lower profile drawer slides at Lowe's but they were problematic as they are also thinner than the other slides but at least they fit better since they're just over 1" tall.

I've been thinking about this since I bought the boxes and I realized that it's not worth going to the trouble of fussing with installing new drawer slides. The ones that come with the Bestop boxes are just fine.

A much simpler (IMO) and better approach is to remove the drawer stop and put in a new one so that the drawer pulls out farther giving you better access to the interior of the drawer and the items stored in it. Doing this means there's no reason to mess with buying new drawer slides and then removing and replacing the Bestop box slides.

Here's the Bestop box with the drawer extended out as far as it will go:



Step one is to remove the bottom panel and then slide out the drawer. Here's a pic of the Bestop box with the bottom panel removed (8 small phillips head screws) and you can see the stop on the bottom of the drawer - it contacts the L-shaped bracket tack-welded to the bottom of the drawer:



Here's a pic of the drawer out of the box:



Bestop has a tack-welded 'L' shaped piece of steel to stop the drawer from coming all the way out and it's what limits how far the drawer extends.

Step two is to remove the L-shaped tack-welded bracket (the "drawer stop") from the bottom panel. You can see the L-shaped bracket (drawer stop) on the panel before it's removed.

Here's the bracket tack-welded to the inside of the removable bottom panel:



Here's a picture of the bottom panel of a Bestop box with the drawer stop tack-welded on it and another bottom panel with the drawer stop tack-welded steel angle piece removed. The bracket comes off very easily with a few bangs using a chisel and hammer. You can see the bottom panel with the L-stop bracket (top of the picture) and the panel with the bracket removed (bottom of the picture). You can touch-up the steel if the exposed metal bothers you.

As you can see this L-shaped bracket limits the drawer travel and the bolt & nut I used as the new drawer stop gives the drawer almost 3 more inches of additional of travel:



I have all kinds of nuts and bolts and washers and other hardware and I just happened to have a couple of short bolts with matching nuts. I used a split (lock) washer on the bolt to make sure the nut stays on the bolt and it helped keep the nut up high enough to contact the drawer stop tab. Of course you'll want to make sure the bolt isn't so tall that it scrapes the bottom of the drawer.

I simply marked a spot in the center of the bottom panel (in line with the tack-welded bracket I removed) and drilled a hole for the bolt.

Once this was done I set about to line the drawers (I bought both passenger's side and driver's side underseat boxes).

I purchased piece of rubber sheet from a local foam store here in Burbank, CA. It's 1/8" thick and 1 foot of it was plenty of material for both drawers and then some. Here's the rubber and store info:



I cut the rubber in a rectangular piece using a sharp razor knife and a straight edge so it would fit in the drawer (to make it very simple, I didn't yet worry about the ends of the drawer).

Once the rubber sheet was cut to size I removed one screw at a time from the drawer slides, used an awl (hole punch) to make a hole in the rubber sheet by pushing it through the drawer slide holes, and put the nut on top of the rubber sheet.

Here you can see the small silver nuts holding the rubber sheeting in place (this way there's no reason to glue the sheeting in place as it would be very problematic to remove it later once it's glued in place). I also put a small piece of rubber on the drawer so you can see what the material looks like (it's grippy enough to help hold items in place and protect them from the steel drawer):



I cut separate pieces for the ends of the drawer which I double-sided taped in place. I decided to use a small piece of rubber to protect items inside from hitting the lock unit in the front of the drawer:



Here's the drawer with the new drawer stop and rubber drawer liner installed and you can see how far the drawer extends now with the new drawer stop (about 11 1/2 inches versus the stock drawer which extends about 8"). Note that the above pics also show the rubber installed in the drawer:



Project difficulty: On a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being most challenging, this project is maybe a 2. It will take longer to cut and put in the sheeting than it will to remove the bottom panel, remove the tack-welded stop and drill a hole and put in the bolt and nut.

This is FAR easier than messing with putting in new drawer slides!

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* Phillips screwdriver
* Pliers
* Razor knife
* Straightedge or square
* Rubber sheeting
* Drill with 1 drill bit for 1 hole
* Bolt (short)
* Nut
* Lock washer
* Double-sided tape (optional)
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Here is a simple and fastest way to get your drawer to come out farther. Sorry for bringing up an old post, but I had this bookmarked so I could remember about the new sliders.

1. Flip over and remove screws as shown.
2. Flip that back panel and screw back on. There is plenty of room for the piece sticking up that used to prevent the drawer from coming out farther.
3. Drink a beer.
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I have a Kimber Pro Raptor 2 and/or a Springfield Armory XDS-45 w/extra magazines that I put in the Best top box under my drivers seat with no problems.
If you want a huge heavy handgun cannon get the Tuffy.
I have not modified the Best Top Box in any way.
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Old 08-07-2016, 03:34 PM   #30
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Took some doing, but managed to get the Tuffy Push Button Combination Lock installed on my Bestop drawer, which makes it much more convenient without having to deal with a key. Drawers work great and have plenty of space. Haven't changed the slides yet, as the drawer comes out enough for my needs, but would probably go with fightingmajor's idea and just flip around the bottom panel instead anyway...

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