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Old 05-21-2014, 11:09 PM   #31
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WHY do you want/ feel you need a hi lift? Probably the biggest poser symbol on most Jeeps! A hi lift lifts the entire suspension so you have to take all the droop out of the suspension before the tire even starts to lift. A good bottle jack will lift up your axle to allow a tire change, is safer and easier to use. But if you feel it's necessary # 3.

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WHY do you want/ feel you need a hi lift? Probably the biggest poser symbol on most Jeeps! A hi lift lifts the entire suspension so you have to take all the droop out of the suspension before the tire even starts to lift. A good bottle jack will lift up your axle to allow a tire change, is safer and easier to use. But if you feel it's necessary # 3.
Hi lifts can be used to lift jeep when its stuck also can be used as a winch a spreader and othe useful things. A bottle jack not so much

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Old 05-21-2014, 11:26 PM   #33
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WHY do you want/ feel you need a hi lift? Probably the biggest poser symbol on most Jeeps! A hi lift lifts the entire suspension so you have to take all the droop out of the suspension before the tire even starts to lift. A good bottle jack will lift up your axle to allow a tire change, is safer and easier to use. But if you feel it's necessary # 3.
Stuck in a 2-foot snowdrift in the Dark Canyon Wilderness of southeastern Utah last month, just south of Canyonlands The Maze District. I mean STUCK. Had a lot of momentum going in, shoved that thing in till there was no backing, turning, etc. This was a rental JKU from Avis. We had nothing with us (on a backpacking trip.)

Pulled out stock jack, hacked away with a flat piece of branch to try and clear a space to get it under there. Darkness fell. 22 degrees. Everything refroze. Next morning hacked some more, never could get enough space to get under the thing with a jack.

Cussing the whole time because the 48" HiLift sitting in my garage back home, and in my friend's garage back home, would have jacked up a corner with ease, we would have filled the hole under our tire with rocks, limbs, ice, etc. Set down the tire, repeat x3. Get in, shift into reverse, back out and retrace our steps.

Instead, I wound up walking three miles, getting a couple coverage bars on cell phone, calling the wrecker out of Blanding, and $300 later we were headed into town.

I couldn't agree more, Sinister that it's the biggest poser piece of equipment many Jeeps carry. (Well, next to a lift and 33s.) But that doesn't mean it's not useful if you know how to use it.

And yeah, it sucks for just regular jacking in regular conditions, compared to other options
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I've had a 60" model for about 25 years. Had it in three different rigs. Tough to fit in the Jeep Wrangler...

Not nearly as useful as I'd thought it might be, only used it a couple of times in all those years. When I did need it, it was Very Valuable. Used it just as described by NoGaBiker: jacked up the front of a truck stuck in a bad rut, right front tire hanging uselessly. Put a bunch of rocks, small logs, etc, under that tire, and was then able to drive out.

Other than that, it's mostly just been a big, heavy piece of cool looking gear...

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Old 05-23-2014, 04:41 PM   #35
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I owned one for years before I ever even considered using it for a vehicle. It pulls fence posts, I used it to jack up high voltage bus duct and to shift heavy machine into position, and jacked up a porch. It wasn't until after we bought a Jeep did I learn your not supposed to leave home without it. Since then I picked up the attachment that hooks into your wheels to lift out of rut or whatever. Then I fabricated the winching attachments for chain. Its slow and cumbersome but it will save your butt. It's the three or so feet of travel that makes it so versatile.
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I will never carry one. Nearly killed by one 15 years or so ago. A bottle jack may not get you out of every concievable situation, but will for 90% of them.
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Having had one (Hi Lift Jack) for probably 30 years, used it many times on the job for all kinds of jacking and for shifting something into position, Removing fifty or so fence posts in one day, and If I carry mine inside the Jeep strapped to the car seat loops behind the back seat (i dont have a mount outside) that way no one knows I even have it , and I have only used it when nobody else is around. Would it possible for me to ever lose the title of being a Hi LIft Poser? It hurts to be labeled with such a stigma. Or should I run out and buy a 1000 dollar winch so I could "pose" with a higher standard of Jeepish approval? Even if it's on the bumper for years and never gets used but looks really badass....

Oh yea one other inquiry,
Are you also a poser if you have D Rings and have actually used them to be pulled and to have pulled someone else. Or would it be better to remove them so as not to be a D Ring poser?
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Are you also a poser if you have D Rings and have actually used them to be pulled and to have pulled someone else. Or would it be better to remove them so as not to be a D Ring poser?
I think that would actually make you a D-Bag poser, no?
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Spray it with some silicone spray once every few months, no rust. This was the only really good place I found to mount it outside the Jeep. I didn't want to lose any interior space.
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I think that would actually make you a D-Bag poser, no?
So true, but the problem remains when I go into the store or out to diner, do I carry the hi lift over my shoulder like a lumber jack or wear my D rings around my neck on a chain like M T? Or just throw caution to the wind and wear both,,,,,Poser yes, pretentious maybe, bombastic certainly.
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I use a bottle jack and some wood. My Jeep is stock, so the lifting points for the HiLift are pretty much nonexistent. The bottle jack is more compact and it is definitely sturdy!
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I own a 2 door but I thought I remember reading that a 48" high lift will fit under the rear seat in a 4 door. Is that true?
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I own a 2 door but I thought I remember reading that a 48" high lift will fit under the rear seat in a 4 door. Is that true?
Not sure how. There are three brackets on my 40/60 split rear seat that don't allow for much storage.
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I own a 2 door but I thought I remember reading that a 48" high lift will fit under the rear seat in a 4 door. Is that true?
I had mine there for a few years in my 4 door.

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By the way, the attachment accessory that has the two hooks for your wheel, is very useful also for hooking on your bumper for jacking. Not only does it protect your bumper paint/bed liner it also stabilizes the Jack laterally very well.
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Not sure how. There are three brackets on my 40/60 split rear seat that don't allow for much storage.
With the seats folded flat, the 48 " jack nestles down very nicely in that hing area, then take two velcro straps and attach it to the child restraint hooks that are down in the hinge area. I also wrap the jack in an old beach towel to keep it silent. Mounting this way does not take up any cargo space, keeps it out of the elements.

Will eventually mount it like IBgeocaching does on the roll bar
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I use a bottle jack and some wood. My Jeep is stock, so the lifting points for the HiLift are pretty much nonexistent. The bottle jack is more compact and it is definitely sturdy!
I have about 15 bottle jacks at work 1 ton up to 35 ton. Have also used them for a vast amount of work. If your jeep is buried in sand or mud, a bottle jack is nothing more than a sinker. If you really look at a Hi Lift and the accessory wheel hooks, they are unbelievably useful. a little imagination goes a long way with one of these jacks.
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So true, but the problem remains when I go into the store or out to diner, do I carry the hi lift over my shoulder like a lumber jack or wear my D rings around my neck on a chain like M T? Or just throw caution to the wind and wear both,,,,,Poser yes, pretentious maybe, bombastic certainly.

Definitely carried over the shoulder. Like a Boss.
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Or tie the D-rings to the side and tote it in your pants..........
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Or tie the D-rings to the side and tote it in your pants..........
...or you and your best good buddy can just go everywhere in your new Jeep swag...
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Or tie the D-rings to the side and tote it in your pants..........
I have always been a trend setter. I can see this as being on the cutting edge of fashion and style. For men of wealth and taste and certain women who feel rugged in their "desires".
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D-rings hanging from your earlobes. HiLift over the shoulder. Locking Leatherman on each nipple (you're shirtless here, right?)
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D-rings hanging from your earlobes. HiLift over the shoulder. Locking Leatherman on each nipple (you're shirtless here, right?)
Do I even want to know where the snatch block is?
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Things a "good bottle jack" will not do,

Provide leverage for prying/moving boulders
Provide a 48-60" bridging surface (depending on the size of your Hi-lift)
Stretch framing and or body work
Reset cut twisted-wire fencing
Pull your jeep out of a hole if you don't have a winch
Lift roofs, pry open doors, tear open body panels (the Hi-lift was the original "jaws of life"

Want to change a tire, a bottle jack is just fine, it's when you have bigger problems that it comes up lacking.

If you have to buy a bottle jack then the Bogert setup is the only way to go.
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I had mine there for a few years in my 4 door.

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Mine is mounted in the same place, with the Jeepswag, "Dave" brackets. I'm also using their accessory brackets to store a shovel, an axe, and a Hi-lift wide base in the same location, up and out of the way and away from prying eyes.
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I get the most use out of my Hi-lift at home.

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For those of you with the high lift mounted inside the cab to the roll cage. How hard is it to get in and out? Im thinking for the number for times it will be used it would not be to much of an inconvenience.

To hit on the fact of why have one? For me one of the biggest uses I have for it is reconnecting sway bar links it is great for stretching out the suspension yes. But overall it is a universal tool with endless uses, and when not used carefully or properly endless ways to kill of injure you.
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But overall it is a universal tool with endless uses, and when not used carefully or properly endless ways to kill of injure you.
Pretty much sums it up.

While it is a pretty useful tool....the danger of using one pretty much rules it out for me. There are other safer,easier to store tools that can take its place....just not "all in one".

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Pretty much sums it up.

While it is a pretty useful tool....the danger of using one pretty much rules it out for me. There are other safer,easier to store tools that can take its place....just not "all in one".

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Pretty much sums it up.

While it is a pretty useful tool....the danger of using one pretty much rules it out for me. There are other safer,easier to store tools that can take its place....just not "all in one".

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