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Old 09-27-2012, 06:20 AM   #31
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I've got a floor jack for home, a bottle jack for the road, and a Hi-Lift for emergency trail use. I keep mine under the back seats in my 4-door (48" fits perfectly).
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I also carry a bottle jack....however, I'm glad I have never needed the thing. It concerns me that I'm supposed to lift my jeep with that unit on something the size of a half dollar? Where is the best placement for a bottle jack on my jeep for lifting?

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Old 09-27-2012, 06:47 AM   #32
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Wolf, can you post a pic of the lift under the seats? You just laid it in there? or is it mounted to something?
Not sure if it'll work on other MY's...don't know why it wouldn't, though. I keep mine (48" Hi-Lift) in a canvas case. It slides in, right between the "triangle" of seat supports. Hard to show in a pic, but here's one where I partially pulled the bottom of the Hi Lift out to give you an idea what it looks like.

Rear seats won't fold completely flat w/it under there, but I rarely fold my seats down, as I've got a Tuffy box in the cargo area and fire extinguishers mounted in holders to the back of both front seats. Works for me, and keeps the Hi-Lift from getting trashed by road salt, general grime, etc.


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Old 09-27-2012, 08:34 AM   #33
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How hard is it to remove and replace that thing by yourself without getting it into the hood?
It's not that hard. I just put my left elbow on the hood for strength and lift off the mounting bolts then tip the base down and hold with right arm. This gal isn't that strong so the rest of you guys should not have a problem.
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Old 09-27-2012, 08:03 PM   #34
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What is that sticking up out of the cargo area?
does the soft top go up and down without hitting the jack?
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Old 09-29-2012, 09:32 PM   #35
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Mine is mounted inside, across the back side of the roll bar about half-way up so it's high enough to store cargo underneath but low enough not to block much view out the back window.
Exhaust pipe clamps around the roll bars and some steel straps drilled out for the clamp bolts and a couple of wing nut bolts to secure the jack. Total cost about $10.
This way I don't have to lock it and it isn't exposed to the elements
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Old 09-30-2012, 04:43 PM   #36
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Do you have a pic? I build something similar but the distance between the bars is 51 inches and the jack only measures 46. I've made it work for around town driving but it came loose on some bad washboard road this weekend. Not sure why my 48 inch Hi Lift measures 46....
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tuff stuff hood rack... i like it


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Old 09-30-2012, 05:00 PM   #38
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I was looking at that the other day. I really like the idea of it. However, my wife and dogs have survived a freak insterstate rollover before. In that same situation, that thing coming loose in the cargo area could be devastating. So I am again looking for an outside mount.
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One reason I bought my Bestop Highrock bumper with oversized tire carrier (long name huh?) was the ability to mount my Hi-Lift jack. The mount isn't anything special, it's just a bracket with holes for bolts that line up (sort of) with the holes in a hi-lift but it does the job.
I use it allot at home because I don't have a floor jack. Fortunately, I haven't had to use it on the road or trail.
It's not really crooked, it just looks that way when the tail gate is opened.
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:00 PM   #40
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I was looking at that the other day. I really like the idea of it. However, my wife and dogs have survived a freak insterstate rollover before. In that same situation, that thing coming loose in the cargo area could be devastating. So I am again looking for an outside mount.
I'm not concerned my wife has flipped a Jeep before and I did pre runners and race trucks had them sideways airborne, upside down and in positions that will make you poo...I will say its mounted pretty solid I'd be more concerned with the factory rack detaching from the windshield before id be concerned with this...
Point being I'm pretty familiar with mounting and being out of control for over 15 years in desert trucks and seen some stuff go flying this goes flying its not going to be my main concern the roof will be gone before this let's loose and if this goes flying it will be off into the desert somewhere not near the jeep...

The guys with them set inside and not strapped down or where they will bounce off stuff if ejected in a roll over is a concern. Or mounted to the hood one end breaks and whips through the windshield...there's concerns with all of them I respect your outlook but to make you feel a bit safer or give you more options safely is why I expressed my take. I have 3 kids that go wheeling with me so safety is a main concern as well.
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Old 10-01-2012, 07:24 PM   #41
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My Jack's Here!

Now to figure out how to mount it.

Hi-Lift Extreme,
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I do the same as kbwwolf. I just slide it under my rear seats. Fits perfect and doesn't bounce around.
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Here is mine. Just a simple mount that uses the gate hinge.

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Old 10-01-2012, 08:28 PM   #44
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Here is mine. Just a simple mount that uses the gate hinge.

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Is that a 60 inch? I got the 48 inch. how high does the truck have to be to require a 60?

Anyone know if 48" is enough for my 2.5 inch RK lift?
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Old 10-01-2012, 09:17 PM   #45
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I do the same as kbwwolf. I just slide it under my rear seats. Fits perfect and doesn't bounce around.
That wasn't my experience. It fit fine, true enough. However, unless I stuff padding and towels in around it there was much bouncing. It was bouncing around so much it was taking paint off the seat frame...maybe the jack too. That and it's just disconcerting to hear that much metal banging around when you go wheeling.

I'm with Bullcrew - different jack, same mount. In the Jeep, out of the way, secure. I cannot claim but one vehicle roll over, but I've been blow up plenty of times. 550 cord (or, Type III Nylon Cord for you sticklers) or bungees will hold things in place through someone using several dozen pounds of high explosive to try and kill you...I'm pretty confident the jack is staying put. I'm considerably more concerned with all the crap that is inevitably lose in my vehicle day to day.
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Old 10-01-2012, 10:30 PM   #46
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Love it!!! Use it ALL the time... off road and to rotate my tires!! Used it for a winch a few times and to get people out! Mounted on the hood!! The one thing i hate is that i have to have a can of silicone spray in the Jeep or it wont work right.

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That wasn't my experience. It fit fine, true enough. However, unless I stuff padding and towels in around it there was much bouncing. It was bouncing around so much it was taking paint off the seat frame...maybe the jack too. That and it's just disconcerting to hear that much metal banging around when you go wheeling.

I'm with Bullcrew - different jack, same mount. In the Jeep, out of the way, secure. I cannot claim but one vehicle roll over, but I've been blow up plenty of times. 550 cord (or, Type III Nylon Cord for you sticklers) or bungees will hold things in place through someone using several dozen pounds of high explosive to try and kill you...I'm pretty confident the jack is staying put. I'm considerably more concerned with all the crap that is inevitably lose in my vehicle day to day.
In a good roll over its amazing how the center junk tray unloads and attacks you as well lol...or stuff under the seats....


Man that sounds rough I'm glad we have die hards that put it on the line...thanks for serving.


Yeah its held on with 4 bolts (2 per bracket) directly to the cage and that's not going anywhere its 3/16 plate the jack is then bolted to the brackets.
The jack bolts down at the furthest point of each end which is ALOT more secure and structurally sound the.
All the mounts i looked at were close spaced bolt holes like 8" and in between which is alot of swaying and not stable on rough roads or roll over. Or mounted where its sticking up and can get ripped off in a roll over. The front grill by the windshield that people mount them to is a lot weaker than the rear cage.

The jeepswag mount is the best I've found for my thinking and use rock crawling and hitting the nasty stuff.

Jack stays clean safe and isn't going to get you, its nice to not have to knock junk out of it when its use time...it is also not accessible for theft as easily and doesn't get in the way.
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Old 10-02-2012, 01:55 AM   #48
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GREAT HI-LIFT ARTICLE
I've been reading up on hi-lifts a bunch lately. I found a great PDF Hilldweller recommended about useing hi-lifts here-> http://www.overlandexperts.com/docs/..._fall_2008.pdf
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Bruce, the author, is one of the best at what he does in the world. OEX creates the offroad training criteria for our SEALS and other Special Forces. Their techniques get the job done, safely, effectively, efficiently.
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WHAT I'M PLANNING ON GETTING
I'm thinking I'm going to get the red 48" one with a JackMate attachment vs going with the extreme one. I'm wanting to keep it inside, so 60" is a bit out of the question. 60" seem to fit well on the hood. I have heard of a few people who have chopped there 60" down to a smaller size.


I'm also going to get the LiftMate. That seems to be the best thing you can have if you get hi-centered on a diff, so the suspension doesn't just droop down as you jack the Jeep up. In the PDF above he mentions being about to use a tree recovery strap in a pinch.


I found a pretty cool aftermarket slider adapter over on a FJ(fake jeep) forum. I'm a bit too cheap for it. I think I will use a tree strap wrapped around my ace rock rails a few times, if need be. Hi-Lift Tubing Adapter RTC-HLA134
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I plan on using a piece of 2X8 board to supplement the base. I'm planning on using some bolts and wing nuts to hold the base down.

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Mine is mounted inside, across the back side of the roll bar about half-way up so it's high enough to store cargo underneath but low enough not to block much view out the back window.
Exhaust pipe clamps around the roll bars and some steel straps drilled out for the clamp bolts and a couple of wing nut bolts to secure the jack. Total cost about $10.
This way I don't have to lock it and it isn't exposed to the elements
This seems like the best option to me. I've got a couple links that show it done that way.
  1. http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/wher...ift-14019.html
  2. Cheap hi lift jack mount


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My Jack's Here!

Now to figure out how to mount it.

Hi-Lift Extreme,
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Fix a jack kit
Neoprene sleeve
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I would do a dry run with the winch parts in the extreme kit. There are a few people who review it on amazon who said it needed some tweaking to work.
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I had this kit and a 60" jack. Burried the front end of my truck in a mud hole and couldn't get to the winch - I'm thinking "No problem, there's a tree right behind me, I'll just grab the hi-lift and the chains and pull myself back a few yards." Only to find out what others have found out - the bolt holes don't line up well enough to get the thing assembled in the field without some significant 'pre-assembly'.
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Old 10-15-2012, 01:04 PM   #49
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Looking into getting a hi lift jack and had some questions that I am hoping some of you can answer. Does it have to be used on the bumper if you are using it to change a tire? I have the stock plastic bumpers and was curious to know if it would wreck them when trying to lift the jeep.
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Looking into getting a hi lift jack and had some questions that I am hoping some of you can answer. Does it have to be used on the bumper if you are using it to change a tire? I have the stock plastic bumpers and was curious to know if it would wreck them when trying to lift the jeep.
You're better off not using the hi-lift to change a tire. They are too unstable for one thing. Another issue is that you need to jack it up higher because of the suspension drooping down. Your better off using a bottle jack (or stock scissor jack) under the axle. You can put a board under the jack for stability.
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You're better off not using the hi-lift to change a tire. They are too unstable for one thing. Another issue is that you need to jack it up higher because of the suspension drooping down. Your better off using a bottle jack (or stock scissor jack) under the axle. You can put a board under the jack for stability.
Thanks for the info.
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Where'd you buy and any insight into if you had to modify/drill extra holes or anything??
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:27 AM   #53
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I found it easier to carry a couple of pieces of wood in the car. Use them for packing under the jack. No need to have that bloody heavy hi lift jack, it lives in the shed now.
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We chose this method for a JK customer, 1 1/4" tube clamps, machined the back side flat, drilled and tapped for 1/2" and screwed a wheel stud through the back. A couple of 1/2" rubber blocks and install the Hylift.
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can you back up the camera and show us the mount on that wheel?
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can you back up the camera and show us the mount on that wheel?
That's classified information, sorry. Lol
Maybe Joe that owns it can get a few for you. He's on the forum. Cant remember his name on here.
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The mounts are welded on the carrier and jack bolts into them and a lock to help keep it there
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Safari Straps Sighting!!

Very nice rig.
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Posted this in the "what did you do to your jk today" thread but thought that I'd post it here too
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Hi-Lift and bottle jack both, when off road.

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