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Old 09-29-2013, 11:27 AM   #1
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How can i fix the bad steering on my 2013 JK?

I have a 2013 JK 4D and the steering has sucked from the day I bought it. How can I fix this problem? My Jeep buddy said it's a common thing whith the JK's and JK owners are trying to get a recall. I don't want to wait for a recall.

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You didnt mention what sucks about the steering. Mine is fine.

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Old 09-29-2013, 12:00 PM   #3
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a recall. There are a lot of things you can look at here.

What is your tire pressure set at? Too high and you'll often get a bigger launch feel on bumps.

Have you lifted? Over 2.5 and a high steer kit may be called for.

If you have lifted, or not actually, have you ever loosened and retightened the control arm bolts while the Jeep was on Jack stands? These need to be tightened with weight on wheels.

What are you coming from, and what are your expectations? Every straight axle vehicle I've had reacts differently at highway speeds from every car.

If you've eliminated a lot of options and still believe it's bad, go back to the dealership and "test drive" another for a comparison. If there's a noticeable difference, make the dealership take a drive with you and get to the bottom of it.

In the unlikely event there isn't something wrong and you think they all drive that way, try a 2 door for a test drive. It will get even more interesting!

The rest of the guys here will probably come up with 100 things I forgot, but those would be my initial checks.
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I bet the tires are at 45 psi and the alignment is off from them cranking it down on the delivery truck.Drop the tires down to 30ish and if your still not happy go have the alignment checked.
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Are you saying how it basically goes "maybe" in the direction you "may" be pointing? Welcome to the Wrangler family. My 2012 needed an alignment after a year as the steering wheel was centred on 11pm after 12 months and it would engage the slip dash light and disengage the cruise.
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Old 09-29-2013, 12:57 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input

I steering was bad before my 4" lift. I was hoping the lift and alinement would help. tire pressure is at 37 psi.
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It will jump to the left. I had a 4" lift and alinement done but it still is all over the road. The tires are at 37 psi I'm going to drop the pressure to 34 psi and see if that helps. I only have 1300 miles on the JK 4D. Thanks for the input.
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:17 PM   #9
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Old 09-29-2013, 03:32 PM   #10
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What lift did you go with?
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:25 PM   #11
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it sucks compared to what? you say it only has 1300 miles, what did you drive before it? tire pressure doesnt really help us because we dont know what tires you have.
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WOW 37PSI I run 28 PSI everywhere and yea what lift do you have? dropping to 34PSI will not change enough to tell any difference.
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I got a 4" rough country lift with Dual stabilizer 35" Toyo M/T on 18" XD'S. Before I got the lift the jeep's steering was bad. It veered into the left lane on a right turn. I was hoping there was some way to modify the steering box. The lift and alinement helped. The high tire pressure make sense.
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Old 09-30-2013, 03:20 AM   #14
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I run 26 PSI on the road 24/7. You had a problem before the lift and you should of taken care of it fist. As far as lifts go I have not heard anything nice about RC. Sorry. Lowing your tire PSI to 26 or so should help some but you need a good tech to help you out. Good luck.
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Take a pic of the front end. 4" your angles are probable bad causing bumpsteer.

Any brackets/drop pitman arm ?

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/lif...jk-298665.html
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It will jump to the left. I had a 4" lift and alinement done but it still is all over the road. The tires are at 37 psi I'm going to drop the pressure to 34 psi and see if that helps. I only have 1300 miles on the JK 4D. Thanks for the input.
What tires are you running?

I run 315/17 duratracs at 28psi....and they did squirm (wander) for the 1st 1000 or so miles....

All is good now...
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I'm running 35" Toyo M/T on 18" XD'S.
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Did you install a high steer kit or any other type of geometry correction brackets? How complete was your lift kit? Is everything torqued, has it been re-torqued?

Give us more info on your lift, symptoms, tire pressure, or anything else.

And in case you missed post# 15....
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/lif...jk-298665.html
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Did you install a high steer kit or any other type of geometry correction brackets? How complete was your lift kit? Is everything torqued, has it been re-torqued? Give us more info on your lift, symptoms, tire pressure, or anything else. And in case you missed post# 15.... http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/lif...jk-298665.html
the lift is a 4" Rough Country X-Series. fully adjustable upper and lower control arms added dual stabilizers .
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What tires are you running? I run 315/17 duratracs at 28psi....and they did squirm (wander) for the 1st 1000 or so miles.... All is good now...
35" Toyo M/T's on 18"XD's
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I'm running 30psi in my 35 toyo mt's
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I sold my RC duals in good shape but the buyer had issues and removed them. Maybe one or both the shocks are binding your steering ?
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I steering was bad before my 4" lift. I was hoping the lift and alinement would help. tire pressure is at 37 psi.
Seriously? You really thought that screwing with the factory steering geometry by lifting it 4" and adding heavy tires would cure a steering problem? I think it would have made more sense to fix the problem first, then lift it. That way, if a problem occurred it would be easier to isolate the problem. IMO it could be anything, but I suspect that you have a bent axle, or twerked Cs.
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It will jump to the left. I had a 4" lift and alinement done but it still is all over the road. The tires are at 37 psi I'm going to drop the pressure to 34 psi and see if that helps. I only have 1300 miles on the JK 4D. Thanks for the input.
There are a couple of things to look at.
1. The jerk to the left is called bump steer when you hit bumps in the road and romp on the gas. What is happening is your track bar is at such an angle that instead of passing that movement up and down only, it is now pulling your suspension in the front to the left, a high steer kit makes this situation much better. In essence the droop of your axle is now pulling that front axle left or right when it goes up and down, by high steering and raising or lowering the track bar you put the track bar in a position where it does not move as much left or right because of where it falls on a radius.
2. Toyo mt's are notorious for pulling or drifting all over the road, sometimes, in an effort to correct the pull an alignment shop will play with control arm lengths to get the tires to behave. If this is the case then you are probably dealing with torque steer and bump steer plus a bad toe in could be in the mix.
Those are the places I would start looking first. While you are under there you may want to add bump stop extensions. Without going into quality I will say that bumpstops are essential to the suspensions proper performance and can save some damage to your vehicle and it's suspension components. These would not have been included in the kit you purchased unless you added them.
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My 2013 JKU from day of purchase wandered.

I installed the AEV Drop Brackets, and since then the steering has been fine.

JK Geometry Correction Front Control Arm Drop Brackets - Suspension - Shop By Category

I only have a 2 1/2" lift, but WOW what a difference.

Best $100 I've spent on the Jeep.
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My 2013 JKU from day of purchase wandered. I installed the AEV Drop Brackets, and since then the steering has been fine. JK Geometry Correction Front Control Arm Drop Brackets - Suspension - Shop By Category I only have a 2 1/2" lift, but WOW what a difference. Best $100 I've spent on the Jeep.
Although I agree the brackets do make a huge difference (running Rancho's myself) he had adjustable CA's. Assuming caster is in check already.

X10 on bumpsteer. Look into the Synergy Highsteer kit. Best bang for buck IMO.

A min of 3" bumpstop is required and the dual stabs will have to go.
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There are a couple of things to look at. 1. The jerk to the left is called bump steer when you hit bumps in the road and romp on the gas. What is happening is your track bar is at such an angle that instead of passing that movement up and down only, it is now pulling your suspension in the front to the left, a high steer kit makes this situation much better. In essence the droop of your axle is now pulling that front axle left or right when it goes up and down, by high steering and raising or lowering the track bar you put the track bar in a position where it does not move as much left or right because of where it falls on a radius. 2. Toyo mt's are notorious for pulling or drifting all over the road, sometimes, in an effort to correct the pull an alignment shop will play with control arm lengths to get the tires to behave. If this is the case then you are probably dealing with torque steer and bump steer plus a bad toe in could be in the mix. Those are the places I would start looking first. While you are under there you may want to add bump stop extensions. Without going into quality I will say that bumpstops are essential to the suspensions proper performance and can save some damage to your vehicle and it's suspension components. These would not have been included in the kit you purchased unless you added them.
Thanks a lot.
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My 2013 JKU from day of purchase wandered. I installed the AEV Drop Brackets, and since then the steering has been fine. JK Geometry Correction Front Control Arm Drop Brackets - Suspension - Shop By Category I only have a 2 1/2" lift, but WOW what a difference. Best $100 I've spent on the Jeep.
Great thanks a lot!
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Seriously? You really thought that screwing with the factory steering geometry by lifting it 4" and adding heavy tires would cure a steering problem? I think it would have made more sense to fix the problem first, then lift it. That way, if a problem occurred it would be easier to isolate the problem. IMO it could be anything, but I suspect that you have a bent axle, or twerked Cs.
I only have 1345 miles on my jeep and 400 miles with the lift. Thanks for the info.
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I'm running 30psi in my 35 toyo mt's
I changed the air pressure and that made a big difference. I'm going let some more out and get them down to 30 psi. Thanks a lot.

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