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Old 11-28-2013, 12:51 PM   #1
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How do you know where your Pentastar was assembled?

Trenton, Mi or Saltillo, Mexico? How can you tell?

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Old 11-28-2013, 12:55 PM   #2
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It should say right on the window sticker.

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Old 11-28-2013, 01:14 PM   #3
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If you order one can you specify where you want it made? Or is the luck of the draw?
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Old 11-28-2013, 04:39 PM   #4
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I have the window stickers for our '13 and the '09. It is a bit misleading. Both sat Engine United States. But, above it, it calls out the percentage that's not US. The '13 says 15% is Hecho en Mexico. I wonder what 15%?

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Old 11-28-2013, 05:06 PM   #5
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Engine blocks, heads and other components are machined in Mexico and probably partially assembled and then sent to the US for final assembly. The 6.1L Hemi engine was manufactured in Mexico as well.

There were start up issues in Mexico pertaining to the Pentastar, however I imagine that's been worked out - there was a restructuring and management changes.

IMO it really doesn't matter where the engine is manufactuered - you get the same direct labor here or there.

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For grins: The '09 sticker makes no mention of Mexico and says US/Canadian content: 56%
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If you order one can you specify where you want it made? Or is the luck of the draw?
You cannot, but if you could, why?
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You cannot, but if you could, why?
I'd rather it be a US assembled engine that's all. IIRC it was Mexican build 3.8's that had problems. Then I'm a career Military man so that might have a little something to do with it.
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There is a report on a 14 full of casting sand in this forum. The issues aren't worked out.
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There is a report on a 14 full of casting sand in this forum. The issues aren't worked out.
You're right. What gives?
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There is a claim of something in the bottom of a coolant capture tank in another thread. What that something is hasn't been substantiated yet or if it the sole source of the affected OP's issue.

Information on the build of the Pentastar: Pentastar Engines: Production and Factory
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There is a claim of something in the bottom of a coolant capture tank in another thread. What that something is hasn't been substantiated yet or if it the sole source of the affected OP's issue.

Information on the build of the Pentastar: Pentastar Engines: Production and Factory
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“Each major component has an individual identification number with a stamped on it and a radio frequency tag. They know what time each part went into a particular machine. If there is a problem with a part, it’s easy to find! They know what parts are on what engines! ”


Interesting ... This is from 2010, I read the issues on Allpar before, but this is the first I've seen this in-depth overview. I wonder if they keep the RFID tags on the parts and ship them with the vehicles. If so, they know where each assembly is installed on an individual vehicle and most likey they are tied to the VIN.

They know what parts leaked, which were reworked, silicon injected and know where they are installed and who owns them. This happens at all plants which confirms my belief that it doesn't matter where the engine is manufactured.

That's how Chrysler can say only few are affected and requires certain conditions for failure.

They are field testing for robustness.

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Old 11-30-2013, 03:57 PM   #13
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According to my window sticker my 14 JKS had final assembly point as Toledo, Ohio...country of origin for my engine was USA...country of origin for my transmission was Germany
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I'd rather it be a US assembled engine that's all. IIRC it was Mexican build 3.8's that had problems. Then I'm a career Military man so that might have a little something to do with it.
You do realize the 3.6 has more catastrophic problems than the 3.8? I don't think having another ethnicity/nationality doing the initial build matters.
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Let me explain something to some of you... If you want a true 100% American vehicle, then let your licenses expire because you won't be able to drive.
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Let me explain something to some of you... If you want a true 100% American vehicle, then let your licenses expire because you won't be able to drive.
So true... I don't see Jeep as any more American than Nissan or Toyota. Both build vehicles in the US but are owned by a foreign country. Hell, if you still think WWII is going on, Italy and Germany were as much our enemies as Japan.
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According to my window sticker my 14 JKS had final assembly point as Toledo, Ohio...country of origin for my engine was USA...country of origin for my transmission was Germany
That's correct... there's engines being machined and assembled in the US and Mexico, and transmissions being machined and assembled in the US or purchased from Germany.

Multi-sourcing to keep up with demand. How else can they keep up with record sales?

Good problem to have..

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I heard Fiat owns 35 percent of Chrysler ... Which means Chrysler is still a predominately American Corporation ... Where am I wrong here ...?
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I heard Fiat owns 35 percent of Chrysler ... Which means Chrysler is still a predominately American Corporation ... Where am I wrong here ...?
Technacally speaking, Fiat is Italian. Italians were the first to discover America, therefore The fact that Chrysler is owned by Fiat makes it MORE American than it was previous to Fiats ownership
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You do realize the 3.6 has more catastrophic problems than the 3.8? I don't think having another ethnicity/nationality doing the initial build matters.
I realize that. Does it matter? It did with the Mexican built 3.8's, the 3.6L is a totally new ball game, with a new and apparently worse set of problems. With the tick and the casting sand issues it probably doesn't matter.
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Let me explain something to some of you... If you want a true 100% American vehicle, then let your licenses expire because you won't be able to drive.
You got that right Chief!
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I heard Fiat owns 35 percent of Chrysler ... Which means Chrysler is still a predominately American Corporation ... Where am I wrong here ...?
No you're correct, the other major interest is owned by the pension fund.

Who manages Chrysler is what matters.

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I realize that. Does it matter? It did with the Mexican built 3.8's, the 3.6L is a totally new ball game, with a new and apparently worse set of problems. With the tick and the casting sand issues it probably doesn't matter.

What casting sand issues? I must be missing something.

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Let me explain something to some of you... If you want a true 100% American vehicle, then let your licenses expire because you won't be able to drive.
I am a salesman in the auto industry...you have no idea how true these words are....it's a shame, really.
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I am a salesman in the auto industry...you have no idea how true these words are....it's a shame, really.
And I only know this from working in the parts industry for almost 20 years .. Basically, parts are produced from places as obscure as Luxembourg...
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What casting sand issues? I must be missing something.

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It has been mentioned several times on the site, people finding casting sand in the coolant recovery tank. I did a quick search using the words casting sand here's a few threads it was mentioned in, there's more. It appears they did a lousy clean up on some blocks and sand remains in the water jackets. HTH


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2012 no heat

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/he...nd-388066.html
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It has been mentioned several times on the site, people finding casting sand in the coolant recovery tank. I did a quick search using the words casting sand here's a few threads it was mentioned in, there's more. It appears they did a lousy clean up on some blocks and sand remains in the water jackets. HTH


New 2014 JKUR need additional cooling

2012 no heat

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f274/he...nd-388066.html
Yes it seems to be a problem mentioned in quite a few threads.

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