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Old 10-14-2010, 11:54 AM   #31
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x2. The film is not going to be a once and done deal either, I'm sure it will have to be replaced every couple of years or so as well. I like the idea, but I probably wouldn't consider it for anything over $50 DIY.

Are there any UV blocking properties to the film?
You are correct. On windshields that see a ton of abuse, the film will eventually have to be replaced. As mentioned earlier, I've has the film on my Wrangler for about a year, and so far I'm in no need of replacement.

The cost of the film alone is just over $50. Hopefully this will drop over time, but the film is far more complex than clear bra thus more expensive to produce.

And yes, the film blocks over 95% of UV.

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You are correct. On windshields that see a ton of abuse, the film will eventually have to be replaced. As mentioned earlier, I've has the film on my Wrangler for about a year, and so far I'm in no need of replacement.

The cost of the film alone is just over $50. Hopefully this will drop over time, but the film is far more complex than clear bra thus more expensive to produce.

And yes, the film blocks over 95% of UV.
I would suspect a price drop once the technology becomes more prevalent. Once the price drops a bit, I'd be interested, especially since it has some UV rejecting properties.
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Get your company to test it up here in Canada where we use a whole bunch of different types of deicing agents across the country province to province in the winter months. In Alberta not only do they use salt/sand but they also use a damaging grade of "pea" sized gravel to "help" peoples tires grip on icy roads, this along with severe windchills and tons of windshield scraping all winter long damages most windshields on a winterly basis, so some will do a windshield up here up to 3+ times a year.
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:20 PM   #35
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Get your company to test it up here in Canada where we use a whole bunch of different types of deicing agents across the country province to province in the winter months. In Alberta not only do they use salt/sand but they also use a damaging grade of "pea" sized gravel to "help" peoples tires grip on icy roads, this along with severe windchills and tons of windshield scraping all winter long damages most windshields on a winterly basis, so some will do a windshield up here up to 3+ times a year.
That sounds like Colorado!

Nevertheless, in the interest of scientific research, I believe that I should personally drive my Rubicon to Canada and conduct testing. Can we hit some offroad trails while I'm up?!
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Old 10-14-2010, 01:28 PM   #36
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I would suspect a price drop once the technology becomes more prevalent. Once the price drops a bit, I'd be interested, especially since it has some UV rejecting properties.
Possibly, but I don't think it will be a major change. Unlike clear bra, this product has a much different distribution method and is more price protected. It'll be interesting to see how the market reacts to the product; I still remember when clear bra arrived back in the 90's.
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Old 10-14-2010, 02:07 PM   #37
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here in tn i have a $100 deductible to replace my windshield on the wrangler, it had one replaced when i bought it and within 8 months of driving it had to replace it because of a crack in front of the driver.

for $100 i might be persuaded to try it because i know that the wrangler windshield is mostly flat and almost straight up and down... bad for rocks...
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PM me some info for my installer friend. He's in Georgia...so if he is interested he can contact you.

I'd love for a few guys here to buy it, and give a review...its for selfish reasons. (A/C in Lotus cars SUCK!)

I'd like to know what kind of improvements are coming in the new film, as I want to do this once and be done with it. The lotus really doesn't get out too much, due to it being my baby, and the hospital I work at is under constant contruction thus parking is horrid.

Will previous windshield chips cause bubbles?
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PM me some info for my installer friend. He's in Georgia...so if he is interested he can contact you.

I'd love for a few guys here to buy it, and give a review...its for selfish reasons. (A/C in Lotus cars SUCK!)

I'd like to know what kind of improvements are coming in the new film, as I want to do this once and be done with it. The lotus really doesn't get out too much, due to it being my baby, and the hospital I work at is under constant contruction thus parking is horrid.

Will previous windshield chips cause bubbles?
The next gen of film is aronud the corner. I already have received samples of it to play with. It's slightly easier to install and even more scratch resistant.

I'd like a few guys here to try it, too. Then we'd get some good reviews from good sources.

Previous chips aren't an issue. At worst, there would be some distortion on top of the chip.

I'll shoot you a PM.
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It sounds like a good product. The Jeep market may not be a good market at that price point. For Lotus owners that price may be small, but Jeep owners seem to be Do it Yourselfers and when some parts that improve performance or appearance can be purchased for $100, it would be a tough sell. Except for markets like Colorado or Canada where replacing windshields is a common event.
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So I drive my Jeep as a DD and routinely drive it cross country, Have had to get enough windshield chips dings etc fixed that it drove my insurance up over 100$. I would definitely purchase a system that I could easily install if it would protect the windshield.

Biggest problems would be how well does it stand up over time? Reliability is the number one reason I would question it. Where I live in MD it is a coal mining region and there is alot of crap on the roads and alot of mining vehicles. I'd be interested in buying a kit at cost or something.

I have a 2006 TJ
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So I drive my Jeep as a DD and routinely drive it cross country, Have had to get enough windshield chips dings etc fixed that it drove my insurance up over 100$. I would definitely purchase a system that I could easily install if it would protect the windshield.

Biggest problems would be how well does it stand up over time? Reliability is the number one reason I would question it. Where I live in MD it is a coal mining region and there is alot of crap on the roads and alot of mining vehicles. I'd be interested in buying a kit at cost or something.

I have a 2006 TJ
As mentioned, mine has lasted about 12 months and close to 15k. Other than a few dimples from impacts, I don't have any issues with the film.

Feel free to let me know of any questions.

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