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Old 01-10-2013, 08:19 PM   #1
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I Got my Black reflective decals

removed the old decals & intalled the new looks better black i think.

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Old 01-10-2013, 08:29 PM   #2
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I have those, they look way better
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removed the old decals & intalled the new looks better black i think.
Your flag is backwards.
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Your flag is backwards.
Mind you. I love the placement. Going to find a black/white version in the exact spot. Just pointing in the "charge" direction.
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Love the reflective stickers.
(I hate it when an image gets doubled up....it wasn't supposed to be that one)
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Your flag is backwards.
Not necessarily. By U.S. Code, the Union is to be to the viewers left. The Union facing right is just an Army uniform niche, representing the "charge", as you said. Also, I just ordered two black vinyl U.S. flag and POW/MIA decals from pixeldecals.com. I noticed you said you were looking for some.
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That is the one I wanted...

Flag facing the "proper" direction.

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Old 01-10-2013, 10:25 PM   #9
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Well thanks for the heads up on the flag direction I'm not military so I didn't know what does the "charge position " mean ? Like attack or what also when flags fly the go all directions .
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Hey Z-TJ I love that black on black stealth mode Rubi sticker
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Well thanks for the heads up on the flag direction I'm not military so I didn't know what does the "charge position " mean ? Like attack or what also when flags fly the go all directions .
Yeah thats sort of what they mean, but you're not wrong in displaying it the way you have it. As a matter of fact, you are correct per U.S. code.
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Well thanks for the heads up on the flag direction I'm not military so I didn't know what does the "charge position " mean ? Like attack or what also when flags fly the go all directions .
It just means the flag is always moving forward.

Pretend the flag is on your antenna. When you are driving forward, the stars will be towards the front when seen from the passenger side.

I've seen it both ways.
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Ok thanks guys I just didn't want to disrespect our soldiers in any way they rock
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Not necessarily. By U.S. Code, the Union is to be to the viewers left. The Union facing right is just an Army uniform niche, representing the "charge", as you said. Also, I just ordered two black vinyl U.S. flag and POW/MIA decals from pixeldecals.com. I noticed you said you were looking for some.
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Yeah thats sort of what they mean, but you're not wrong in displaying it the way you have it. As a matter of fact, you are correct per U.S. code.
Wrong. Per US Code, proper placement of the flag on any vehicle or moving body requires that the Union ALWAYS be placed in the direction of that vehicle or body moving forward. A US service member is considered, for obvious reasons, a moving body -- which is the REAL reason the flags are worn as they are on military uniforms.

On stationary objects that are not depictions of vehicles or moving bodies, US Code mandates the Union be on the left.

The Jeep is a vehicle, so I'm sorry to have to correct you, but the flag in the OP is indeed backwards according to US codes and regulations regarding its display.
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Reflective? These are aftermarket right? Can I ask where you found them? My 13' CG JK was on the line before they switched to black decals for that color, so I had to order some OEM Rubicon decals.
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Old 01-10-2013, 11:59 PM   #16
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Pixeldecals.com if you look at both pictures the late evening sun was reflecting on the decal making it silver & black in the next pic
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Regarding the flag, the easiest way to understand the placement rule on the side of a vehicle or moving body is to picture a real flag on a pole blowing in the wind as the vehicle or body carries it forward. In that case, it is clear that the Union is always forward, regardless of which side you're viewing it from.

The "blowing wind" visual is the reason that US Code differentiates between stationary and moving placements...
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Like attack or what also when flags fly the go all directions
Flags do not fly in all directions when they are moving forward. They always fly straight back from the pole or mount, and the Union always remains forward.
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Wrong. Per US Code, proper placement of the flag on any vehicle or moving body requires that the Union ALWAYS be placed in the direction of that vehicle or body moving forward. A US service member is considered, for obvious reasons, a moving body -- which is the REAL reason the flags are worn as they are on military uniforms.

On stationary objects that are not depictions of vehicles or moving bodies, US Code mandates the Union be on the left.

The Jeep is a vehicle, so I'm sorry to have to correct you, but the flag in the OP is indeed backwards according to US codes and regulations regarding its display.
Actually from the Flag Code....No mention of decals....The flag and code have been around a little longer than vinyl...

§ 7. Position and Manner of Display.
The flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags, should be
either on the marching right; that is, the flag’s own right, or, if there is a line of other
flags, in front of the center of that line.
(a) The flag should not be displayed on a float in a parade except from a staff, or
as provided in subsection (i) of this section.
(b) The flag should not be draped over the hood, top, sides, or back of a vehicle or
of a railroad train or a boat. When the flag is displayed on a motorcar, the staff
should be fixed firmly to the chassis or clamped to the right fender.
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This referenced code is only referring to the flag placement to other flags displayed along side it. Not to the direction the union faces. +1 Always moving forward
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Actually from the Flag Code....No mention of decals....The flag and code have been around a little longer than vinyl...
You do realize that the Flag Code has been revised no less than 25 times over the last 90 years -- by both Congress and Executive Order...? Not to mention the additional specific regulations regarding the placement of decals on US military vehicles in place since roughly 1941.

I mean, I guess if you want to get REALLY technical, flag decals, specifically, are supposed to be reserved for US military vehicles ONLY (per Executive Order and DoD regulations)... but we're not trying to go there.

I think the goal for civilians should be to adhere to the policies "as closely as humanly possible," while only just slightly bending the rules for the purpose of patriotism.

That said, EVER FORWARD!
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Will somebody just post a photo of the CORRECT way the flag is supposed to be displayed on a vehicle? Wouldn't it just be a whole lot easier than carrying on a debate over it?

I'd love to put some flags on my fenders, but damn...
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For proper display, one need only look at Airforce One:


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The US Flag Code does not mention stickers on civilian vehicles. Either way can be used.
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Where'd you get them?

Cosmic,

Where'd you get the subdued flag stickers? I'd like to know the vendor so I can order a pair.

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Pixeldecals.com

And he customized the lettering for me cuz I wanted a dedication to my grandad's WWII military service.
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I'm Army and couldn't care less how you display it on your vehicle I'm just glad you have one on it.

The placement on your fenders is pretty sharp, I might have to throw a couple on the wifeys Jeep. Already got'em taken care of on my truck.
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So basically you have to get a right and left handed flag for your Wrangler to display on both sides???
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So basically you have to get a right and left handed flag for your Wrangler to display on both sides???
That's what I'm wondering. Just trying to figure out how I can put them on the Fenders the correct way.

I really dig the "colorless" flags. They look really cool.

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