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Old 02-09-2010, 07:32 PM   #1
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I have a TJ maybe looking to trade to a JK

I recently got bit by the bug. I bought my jeep last year and love it! I have looked into bigger axles for my TJ and have found out that to do this will requirean imense amount of fabrication. I am unable to do this. So I am thinking of trading in my tj for a brand new jeep. Is this the same way or do I need to just save for the Ruicon. Ialso see they have the 3.8 in all of them. Is this a good engine and as far as the transmission I have found that it is a lot harder to offroad in an auto.

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In the standard, I have found off roading easy. I had the Sahara and was able to trade up to a Rubicon. I've been thankful ever since. I have enjoyed the Rubicon better than the Sahara for a number of different reasons. Off road handling is superb and lends to my confidence while off road. The radio in the Rubicon is awesome compared to the one in the Sahara. The suspension is stiffer in the Rubicon and I consider that a plus. Some will argue this one because it makes them feel uncomfortable while going over bumps. When I am on a motorcycle I don't mind the wind in my face and some like a windshield in between them and the outside air. So the stiff ride for me is part of the feel of the rough and tumble ride in the woods that says jeep. You have to figure out what you are looking for in a ride and then go for it. I was most interested in the capabilities of the Rubicon and I got what I paid for and then some.

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X2 with jk'n. I just traded my 06 (manual) for a 10 Rubi (manual) and I am completely satisfied with it and definately believe I made the right decision. However, I still can't part with my 4.2 89 YJ.
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Hey guys thanks for the advice. Last night I was able to do a ittle more research and found that the sport already comes with a dana 44 in the rear and is pretty easy to install a 44 in the front. I am going to trade in my tj for a sport not a Rubicon I plan on putting on a rubicon express 4 in lift this will give the clearance I want and I will be putting bigger tires and get a STD. LIke I said Thanks for the input.
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Hey guys thanks for the advice. Last night I was able to do a ittle more research and found that the sport already comes with a dana 44 in the rear and is pretty easy to install a 44 in the front. I am going to trade in my tj for a sport not a Rubicon I plan on putting on a rubicon express 4 in lift this will give the clearance I want and I will be putting bigger tires and get a STD. LIke I said Thanks for the input.
This is just my $.02, but from where I'm sitting, it sounds like you might be better off saving up for the Rubicon. I have a TJ vs a JK so there may be slight differences, but based on your plans, it sounds like a Rubi would be the way to go. Although adding a D44 to the front in the future is an option and wouldn't take much fabrication, why would you pass up on all the other things that a Rubicon offers, if you have in the back of your mind that you might upgrade the front axle anyway. I'm not sure the difference in price between the Sport and Rubi, but if you add the cost of a new D44 front axle, I can't imagine you would see a huge difference in price and certainly not a big enough difference to walk away from all the other benefits of the Rubi . . . lockers, 4:1 Transfer Case, Disc Brakes, lower gearing (depending on the model), etc.

On a seperate note . . . bigger tires will not help the STD . . . a trip to the doctor or a regiment of antiboitics might be a better option Not sure what you meant by STD?
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Hey guys thanks for the advice. Last night I was able to do a ittle more research and found that the sport already comes with a dana 44 in the rear and is pretty easy to install a 44 in the front. I am going to trade in my tj for a sport not a Rubicon I plan on putting on a rubicon express 4 in lift this will give the clearance I want and I will be putting bigger tires and get a STD. LIke I said Thanks for the input.
Keep the axle up front, gusset and sleeve it with chromoly shafts; half the cost of the 44 and stronger to boot.
Order the sport with 3.73 gears so the pumpkin will be big enough to regear when you get bigger meats.
You can put in lockers at the same time as the gears and also a rubicrawler. Add some discos and you've got something that outperforms a Rubicon for quite a few bucks less.
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Keep the axle up front, gusset and sleeve it with chromoly shafts; half the cost of the 44 and stronger to boot.
Order the sport with 3.73 gears so the pumpkin will be big enough to regear when you get bigger meats.
You can put in lockers at the same time as the gears and also a rubicrawler. Add some discos and you've got something that outperforms a Rubicon for quite a few bucks less.


How much is it going to cost to beef up the front, add F&R lockers, and add a rubicrawler, etc? Would you really be saving much if anything?
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Do yourself a favor. Look for a preowned rubi or wait till you can get a new one if you want new. I was in your same boat debating on getting a sport and modding it or getting a rubi. I waited and got the rubi and can't be happier. Do it once and be done. Plus you get 4.10 gears which will save you a grand in a gear swap.
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I got a used '08 X with the same idea as you - gear it up, lift, etc, etc. Then, when I started adding up the mods, I realized I could get a new Rubi with all that and more (locking diffs standard, disco sway bar, 4.1 trans. case) and the best part - full factory warranty. Picking up the Rubi on Friday, no regrets. Save for the Rubi, and get a manual, it's a lot better tranny to mate with the 3.8. And if you don't need 4 doors, don't get an Unlimited. The extra weight of the Unlimited works the 3.8 that much harder and contributes to the reputation of being underpowered. A 2 door with a manual holds it's own on the highway pretty well. I've had an Unlimited with an auto - poochy!
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I got a used '08 X with the same idea as you - gear it up, lift, etc, etc. Then, when I started adding up the mods, I realized I could get a new Rubi with all that and more (locking diffs standard, disco sway bar, 4.1 trans. case) and the best part - full factory warranty. Picking up the Rubi on Friday, no regrets. Save for the Rubi, and get a manual, it's a lot better tranny to mate with the 3.8. And if you don't need 4 doors, don't get an Unlimited. The extra weight of the Unlimited works the 3.8 that much harder and contributes to the reputation of being underpowered. A 2 door with a manual holds it's own on the highway pretty well. I've had an Unlimited with an auto - poochy!
My unlimited rubi gets off of the stop line very well thank you. If I get beat by a camaro or vet, I just consider the source and let them blow my doors off, I'll challenge them to a rock climb or mud hole dual any day! Different vehicles...different purposes. My unlimited rubi is no slug but that is because I can drive a standard and make it obey me. It is all about foot coordination and rpms both on the road and on the trail. I'm happy in both places.
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How much is it going to cost to beef up the front, add F&R lockers, and add a rubicrawler, etc? Would you really be saving much if anything?
If it were me, I'd have to spend the money on a gear swap on a Rubi anyhow, so I consider $1500 of the work a push. Add $800 for a selectable in the rear, $400 for an Aussie or something up front, and $1500 or so for front axle mods. The Rubicrawler is an additional option but only important if you really want to crawl some rocks. 5.38 gears are already pretty torquey....

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