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Old 10-01-2013, 06:07 PM   #1
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Exclamation I love my HIDS.... Read for review

After much debate and looking around, I went with the DDM Hid kit. I couldn't justify spending almost $200 for a kit when it all just comes from China. So I purchased the Hi/Low 6000k kit, with error eliminators and relay harness. Total for all shipped was $91.35 First off, the high and low combo are both HIDs, it doesn't use a halogen for a high beam. Second, the kit is complete plug and play. No cutting anything. Third, I didn't need the relay harness as the H13 H/L kit comes with a complete harness with a built in relay MODULE. So minus the $10 for the extra relay harness you dont need and you're at $81 I turned on my headlights and marked the wall where they hit


The harness kit has a B+ coming off of it, that goes to battery. Then remove both headlamps and swap in the HIDS. Now the other part of the harness has a plug that hooks into the FACTORY HEADLIGHT HARNESS and JUST ON THE PASSENGER SIDE. Plug it in just like it was a headlight. Then you will ground that side to a stud and plug in the Error Eleminator. From the EE, plug in your ballast. Plug ballast into the passenger side HID.. Done!! Now you will have a longer lead coming off the same relay module you hooked to the battery. Route it over to the driver side and repeat. Ground the one wire, plug in EE, plug ballast to that, and plug in HID.


Turn on headlights and check highbeam I had no difference in beam pattern from my marks on the wall. I did not move the jeep during install.




Went out and test drove on a dark, busy 2 lane road and got no "highbeams" flashed at me or anything. I do not shine into the compartments of bypassing vehicles!!


It does illuminate directly in front if the jeep, poor photo from iPhone. And for jeep specs... 35s on 2.5 BB lift.
No adjustment of headlights as of now, no codes on dash, no whining or buzzing sound!! If you have been on the fence of doing HIDs... Do it!!!


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Nice, thanks. What color temp HID's are those? Also, can you do a shot "down the road" of the low beams versus the high beams?

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Nice, thanks. What color temp HID's are those? Also, can you do a shot "down the road" of the low beams versus the high beams?
6000k... Pure white

The shot down the road is on low beams

Highs illuminate little further and higher up

I will try to get a pic next time
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Interesting.

Thanks for posting. Did you go with 35 watt or 55 watt?
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Thanks, I just ordered based on your review. Did you upgrade the fog lights as well?
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The DDM kit is a great value, I have used it on other cars but went LED on the Jeep. Thanks for the review!
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Thanks, I just ordered based on your review. Did you upgrade the fog lights as well?
I did upgrade the fog lamps to LEDs.
H16 led bulbs on eBay

Many to choose from and anywhere from $20-$50
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Interesting. Thanks for posting. Did you go with 35 watt or 55 watt?
35watt kit
Sorry didn't mention it earlier
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Sorry didn't mention it earlier
That's on stock lamps right? There is very little glare, and only a few reflectors lamp can pull it off like that. What i've come to assume is that its probably because of the cut off thingy on the center of the lamp that prevents excess bleed. Maybe the kc h4 conversion also has little glare with hids.
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Think I'm going to do this... did you order brackets for the ballasts? If so, where did you mount those?
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Yes in the stock headlamp housing

And no I did not buy the brackets. You can see how I mounted the driver side hardware.. Double sided tape and did the same on the other side, except the ballast is laying vertical between the fuse box and air box. The eliminator is taped to the core support in front of the air box
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Looks great. I've been running the Hellfires in my JK for about 6 months now. Love them.
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Think I'm going to do this... did you order brackets for the ballasts? If so, where did you mount those?
You can have more mounting flexibility if you get hid bulb extensions and a slightly longer (or extension) h13 plug (or h4 if you have a harness) to ballast input cable (9006). That way you can move the ballasts toward the firewall or some other place with more space for easier placement.

I have my driver ballast mounted left to the battery close to the firewall, and passenger is close to the brake fluid reservoir. Both with brackets however, I used the stock black bolts alongside the edges of the hood compartment to hold them.
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I have added HID's to other vehicles and attached the ballasts with automotive attachment tape. It works great, and is stronger than you might think (I've used the same tape to attach HDPE skidplates to track and race cars and it has never let go).
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I have added HID's to other vehicles and attached the ballasts with automotive attachment tape. It works great, and is stronger than you might think (I've used the same tape to attach HDPE skidplates to track and race cars and it has never let go).
Although rare, to avoid permanency in case of ballast failure or having to clean up glue residue, I'd suggest using something like 3M's dual lock tape, the clear high temperature version. Much stronger than velcro, but in case of ballast failure, swapping is much easier and faster with a flat screwdriver and a good push/pull.
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Cool, thanks for the info! Besides color temperature, how would you rate their light output performance versus stock?
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Cool, thanks for the info! Besides color temperature, how would you rate their light output performance versus stock?
Dude can't even compare. I never gave the factory headlights any thoughts until we were up
at Yellowstone beginning of Sept.

It's as dark as dark gets up there and really proved how bad OEM lights suck. I had to use my windshield lights as an aid.

So these HIDs are something I should have done a year ago,the day I brought the jeep home.
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Has anybody used a kit like this long-term? It's something I would consider if I knew there would be no problems down the road... Including, but not limited to, codes being thrown, light failure, and/or other electrical problems. I'd really hate to have the thing fail on me one way or another a few months down the road. What's the average lifespan of an HID bulb?
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Has anybody used a kit like this long-term? It's something I would consider if I knew there would be no problems down the road... Including, but not limited to, codes being thrown, light failure, and/or other electrical problems. I'd really hate to have the thing fail on me one way or another a few months down the road. What's the average lifespan of an HID bulb?
I have HID kits in other cars. I got a bad ballast/starter out of the box once, but otherwise they have been flawless. One has thrown a code in my M3, but I just switched the lights off then back on and it cleared. I think that they are, in general, pretty reliable.
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Has anybody used a kit like this long-term? It's something I would consider if I knew there would be no problems down the road... Including, but not limited to, codes being thrown, light failure, and/or other electrical problems. I'd really hate to have the thing fail on me one way or another a few months down the road. What's the average lifespan of an HID bulb?
HID bulb information from The Retrofit Source Inc
According to that, 2500+ hrs for hid vs ~300 for halogen.

If you use a standalone harness that uses only one side as trigger, a code will be thrown for the opposite side as it has no bulb. If it re-uses the stock wiring in both sides with a proper harness no codes will be thrown, at least mine didn't for the two days I ran on the stock wiring.

Considering the stock wiring is weak, and uses some kind of PWM from the canbus, electrical problems may be more common if you are not equipped with a good standalone or pigtail harness, as flickering may happen and that affects the life of the bulb and ballast. Also, making sure you are using AC ballasts will also help with bulb longevity. When using HIDs on the JK, you focus on quality of the electrical current, because HIDs have less load (35w) or close to similar (555w) load than stock 55w halogens. So you need to provide good and reliable power, hence why many get a standalone harness. You won't be frying the stock wiring like you could by running 100 watt halogens from it for example.

The technology itself is very reliable. But since most aftermarket ballasts and bulbs are from china, quality control is very important to discard crappy ones that will fail in the short term. So get them from companies you already know have good or at least a good track of quality control.
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I have ran HIDs in my other vehicles and only once did I have a issue with one not lighting. It was in for over a year and was a carry over kit that I took out of our old car before trading it in. So at least 2 years on this kit. I swapped the ballast and still it didn't light so I knew it was a bulb. Searched online and got 2 replacement bulbs for $25.

Now unfortunately I could use them on the jeep as they were 9006, so they stayed with the car when it was traded in for the Jeep.

So overall I've had good luck with HIDs
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I've been running this same setup from DDM for 2 years now on my JK. Never am issue with it. Holds up to all the wheeling too. I angled my lights quite a bit down though, to make sure no one gets disturbed by them. I actually get a very clean cut off near stock length, very nicely filled in with pure white light. Definitely go with 6000K max. The side spread of the light is minimal, which is a concern when going HID without a projector. I took a chance on these in the housing and didn't think I would keep them but they ended up working very well, little glare, 10 times better lighting, and well made too. Totally agree with this review.
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Well I liked what I saw so just ordered a set and I skipped on the 10$ harness. Thanks for the info man! 90$ with shipping to Canada good price. The common consensus was to never convert them cause you will blind people and get ticketed yada yada but the cutoff looked pretty damn good on those and as long as I aim them down good I should be set. Ive seen another JK around town with HIDs still has them so doubt hes got in trouble. Its all reversible anyway.
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OK, so I'm ready to order this (happy birthday to me!) and am a little unsure of exactly what to order.

I have selected -
35 Watt
H13 Hi/low (+$20)
Bulb color
Dual in/dual out HID harness ($10) <---I don't need this, right?
Error eliminator BOW3 ($15)

Do I have this right? I'm seeing $74.93 in my cart (plus shipping of $17.50)
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I have the DDM 55 watt 5000k behind HID projectors in my motorcycle and all I can say is stock motorcycle lighting sucks!! Only thing about DDM in my experience is that about 1 out of 100 times, one doesn't fire on which I have to turn off the lights and turn them back on.
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OK, so I'm ready to order this (happy birthday to me!) and am a little unsure of exactly what to order. I have selected - 35 Watt H13 Hi/low (+$20) Bulb color Dual in/dual out HID harness ($10) <---I don't need this, right? Error eliminator BOW3 ($15) Do I have this right? I'm seeing $74.93 in my cart (plus shipping of $17.50)
Sounds right

Just like mine, minus the $10 harness



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Thanks for the review! I just placed an order. Should I also get a kit for the fog lights or buy LED bulbs? Trying to get a good match to the headlight kit. Thanks again.
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Are these DOT legal? I would love to change over but in PA they still do full vehicle inspections.
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Are these DOT legal? I would love to change over but in PA they still do full vehicle inspections.
I've ran these in other cars. They're direct plug and play... Whenever inspection comes around just swap them out. Never a problem. Takes 3mins.
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Thanks for the review! I just placed an order. Should I also get a kit for the fog lights or buy LED bulbs? Trying to get a good match to the headlight kit. Thanks again.
There isn't a plug and play HID for the fogs at least not from ddm. Plus I was reading on their known issues board and I guess their HID kit in Jeep Patriot fog lights will melt the housing. Never seen a Patriot housing but I wouldn't want to melt my fogs :P led will give it the same color but cheaper and less light output.

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