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Old 07-07-2014, 03:06 PM   #1
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I need some duratrac. Need your input

Hi guys. Please don't tell me there is X billion thread about this already... i know and i've read most of them.

We get a ton of snow here is Quebec. The government now force us to use the winter tires with the small mountain and snowflake icon. In the 2013-2014 winter, tires with A/T were ok. But starting the 15th of December 2014, they won't be allowed because they don,t have the mountain / snowflake icon.

I don't like to have multiple sets of Wheels / tires you need to change twice a year. So i was looking for a set of tires i can keep all year long.

The duratracs seem perfect for me. They do have the mountain / snowflake icon, and they look agressive.

So i'm planning to buy a set of 5 to put on my stock wheels.

I have a polar edition with r18. The stock tires i have are currently 255/70R18

I ride really slow with my JKU. 3000 km on it, and the GPS give me an average speed of 29 KM/H !!!

I don't go off road a lot with the Jeep. It's more a mall crawler !

And when i do go, it's for stock Jeep anyways.


My question is, knowing i want to keep my stock polar wheels and i don't want to get a lift, spacers or any modifications of any kind, could i go to 265/70R18 or even 275/70R18 ??? I don't mind a little rubbing now and then...

If you have this kind of set-up and would like to post pictures, it would be great as well.

Let me know what you think.

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A real common replacement for the 18's is the 275/65-18 Duratrac's. They also were just released in the non-LT version in that size.

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Old 07-07-2014, 03:46 PM   #3
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Thanks Pressurized, it's a nice option to consider. However, i would like to keep as much rubber as possible. on r18, i'm not sure of what the 65 would look like... i think it's borderline...
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I run 275/70/18 duratracs and they rub even with 1.5" wheel spacers and teraflex leveling kit.
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Old 07-07-2014, 04:30 PM   #5
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I believe they now sell the duratracs in wrangler stock sizes (17s and 18s anyhow)

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Yes they do have duratrac on 255/70r18

But could I go a bit higher and a bit wider without any modifications?
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Yes they do have duratrac on 255/70r18 But could I go a bit higher and a bit wider without any modifications?
Yes, but there are some considerations. The 275/70/18 would fit if you add wheel spacers, it will rub if you don't.

Check out these threads for more details.

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Thanks Pressurized, it's a nice option to consider. However, i would like to keep as much rubber as possible. on r18, i'm not sure of what the 65 would look like... i think it's borderline...
The 275 65 will look just like your factory tires only 1 inch wider, they are 32's like the stockers.
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Thanks. But as in The original post, no modifications of any kinds. Including spacers. I'm going after year long riding tires and a more aggressive look. Knowing I can get the duratrac with stock dueler size, I'll go with them. But given the conditions of use I gave you, if I could go with a bit taller and wider tires, I would choose them over stock size tires. Just need your input of what would be acceptable give my conditions....
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Ok, your posts are a little conflicting... You said you wanted to look at larger/wider with no modifications and now you say you want to stay stock.

Keep in mind that the 275/65-18 is the exact same diameter as the stock Bridgestones and at 11.0" wide is typically considered acceptable with no rub. If you read the largest tire on stock thread below, it spells that out.

Obviously, if you choose the 255's you won't have any trouble either.

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I have 17 rims and run 285/70/17s. I needed new wheels for mine but I absolutely love the Duratracs. I have used all kinds of tires on my Jeeps for years including some very expensive Michelins on my last 2010 Rubicon but nothing compares to the Duratrac. It looks like Pressurized has the best recommendation for you.

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Thanks. But as in The original post, no modifications of any kinds. Including spacers. I'm going after year long riding tires and a more aggressive look. Knowing I can get the duratrac with stock dueler size, I'll go with them. But given the conditions of use I gave you, if I could go with a bit taller and wider tires, I would choose them over stock size tires. Just need your input of what would be acceptable give my conditions....
I did see that you didn't want any modifications but you can't modify the tire size without modding the wheel (in most cases). You can run the 33" tire if you don't mind some rubbing at full turn but if you don't like that you need to spacers.

Just go with stock size and save yourself some money and worry. That's my opinion
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Just go ahead and get a 2.5" lift and 35s. Don't waste your time with slightly bigger, you'll only regret it... I do.
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Just go ahead and get a 2.5" lift and 35s. Don't waste your time with slightly bigger, you'll only regret it... I do.
Eh, it's a trade off. Going with 35s opens a can of worms you need to be ready to deal with. For some people it's just not worth it.
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I am also from quebec and had to deal with our winter tire law one thing I found was the difference in price between a 18" tire and the same size 17" is quite a bit times that by 5 tires and you you are forking out a lot more cash.

I actually picked a nice set of used 17" Mickey Thompson sidebitters for the difference in price of the 18" vs 17". And sold my stock Sahara rims and tires then with that money picked up my lift

Also if you don't off-road much you can take into consideration the goodyear silent armour and certain sizes of the BFG A/T Both have the mountain snowflake symbol. Don't get me wrong the duratrac is an awesome tire I have them but they will wear faster than a true A/T.
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Yeah, I've read that the Silent Armors are better than the Duratracs. People like the DT's look more than having that kevlar. The Mickey Thompsons are sweet too. I'd go with the Duratrac or Silent Armor but I'm going to see how my BFG KM's do this winter. I've heard mixed reviews on them too.
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Get the bigger wider Duratrac's that you like and throw in some spacers. Not sure what your motivation is behind no mods, but spacers are generally fully reversible so you can undo them when you want easily.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:28 AM   #18
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Thanks everyone. Silent Armor are not looking agressive enough. For me, it's more about the look then functionality. like i said, my poor jeep is a mall crawler... But i want the zombie apocalypse look !!! Also, i really want to keep the polar edition wheels.

I think pressurized answered my question with is suggestion of 275/65-18.

Do you think i could go to 275/70-18 ?????

If anyone has picture of that set-up without spacers and without lift, it would be nice of you to post them here.

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X2. Also, msubrave commented that he's running that size with spacers and a leveling kit and still getting some rub ...
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Here's a picture and comment. He says it doesn't rub, but did he flex to test? Most of the time, we say that 33's fit a stock Jeep without rubbing, but tire width has to be taken in to account. If they rub, it won't be much. I just can't tell you for sure on the 275/70's.

Show me pics of 33's no lift
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Any reason you have not looked @ a 15" combo? 4wd has had a great deal on 33x12.5x15 and Discount Tire will price match. Enough that you can get new tires and rims for about the cost of just tires in your stock size. They look great too.

33x12.5R15 Goodyear Duratracs installed pics & video
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Your choice, but being a mall crawler, is letting me believe that you will mostly ride downtown, where it's usually well plowed, hard packed and icy spots. Since it's not an AWD and your 4x4 won't be always engaged, I would seriously consider dedicated ice/snow tires, you may regret that look over functionality but again, your choice, you know more than me where you drive.
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X2. Also, msubrave commented that he's running that size with spacers and a leveling kit and still getting some rub ...
I rubbed the front air dam when turning and the rear tires rub the fenders when stuffed.
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BillyBilly, on what tire did you stop your choice.

I'm planning to get some 275/65R18 Duratrac on my stock JKUS. I'm in Quebec too, so I need this sever winter approved tire. Let me know.
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One size tire that never gets looked at for Sahara's is the 265/70-18.

That is what I'll be looking at on my next set if I do ever change sizes and tires.

The 265/70-18 is only 1/2 inch taller (32.6") and 1/2 inch wider (10.7" section width and 8" tread with) than stock (32.1" tall, 10.2" section width and 7.5" tread with).

I don't think this size gets looked at because you can't get Duratracs in them. You used to be able to get Silent Armors in this sized, but they were E rated.

I'll be looking at highly rated Firestone Destination AT's, and the Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 2's in that size. 1/4" in the inside, and 1/4" on the top side will hopefully not rub. (I also like the white outline look)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ewall=Outlined White Letters&partnum=67SR8DESTATOWL&tab=Specs
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ewall=Outlined White Letters&partnum=67TR8REVO2OWL&tab=Specs

General Grabber AT2's are also available in that size, but for some reason they are listed at 32" tires instead of 32.6". Yet the revs per mile is about the same as their own listed 33" tires (32.8" actually). I beleive that size in the General Grabbers are M+S rated as well.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

One thing that I look at are the tread patterns. The Destinations and Revo's are not quite as blocky...which is probably why they are not M+S rated...but I bet they will do better on wet and dry pavement. The Grabbers also have a wider tread width (8.5" than the other two).
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Thanks for sharing this! I will look at theses tires too.

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