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Old 12-16-2013, 09:51 AM   #1
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So I have thoroughly enjoyed my AEV 2.5" lift, it's been terrific in virtually every way....except now I want more.
I have metalcloak lower and upper control arms and adjustable trackbar on the way and I was thinking about installing the 3.5" coils in the front, but retaining the 2.5" AEV coils in the rear. I'm really hoping to remove the rake that remained after the AEV install and to also give myself a touch more room for 35s. I haven't had any trouble with the AEV lift with regards to clearance, but I would really like to have a touch more wheel well room with 35s for better articulation.
Being a 2012, would I still need to place the exhaust spacer and/or have a new driveshaft made? What pitfalls would I be facing?

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I wouldn't mix coils, but that's just my opinion. Just use spacers if you need a little more room and are on a tight budget. Be sure the shocks and brake lines a long enough or get the drop brackets. As for exhaust clearance, not sure what issue you may face. Also consider your gears, you may be unhappy with the performance with 35's. You'll need a ProCal or equivalent.

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So I have thoroughly enjoyed my AEV 2.5" lift, it's been terrific in virtually every way....except now I want more. I have metalcloak lower and upper control arms and adjustable trackbar on the way and I was thinking about installing the 3.5" coils in the front, but retaining the 2.5" AEV coils in the rear. I'm really hoping to remove the rake that remained after the AEV install and to also give myself a touch more room for 35s. I haven't had any trouble with the AEV lift with regards to clearance, but I would really like to have a touch more wheel well room with 35s for better articulation. Being a 2012, would I still need to place the exhaust spacer and/or have a new driveshaft made? What pitfalls would I be facing?
I know this is of topic a little but you still have rake after the aev 2.5" lift? Do you still have factory bumpers? And no winch. This lift is at the top of my mod list just waiting on funds. But if it doesn't fix the rake I'll be looking at a different lift
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Old 12-17-2013, 12:08 AM   #4
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I know this is of topic a little but you still have rake after the aev 2.5" lift? Do you still have factory bumpers? And no winch. This lift is at the top of my mod list just waiting on funds. But if it doesn't fix the rake I'll be looking at a different lift
I got the 3.5" and it looks great. Would think the same leveling setup exists on the 2.5"
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Old 12-17-2013, 06:48 AM   #5
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Still running stock fenders? If so you may want to consider Genright or Poison Spyder fenders. Provide a lot more clearance.

As for gearing, 35's with 4.10's and a 2012 motor seem to do just fine. We have a few people out here running that combo with no issues and still pulling down 18 MPG. And yes, they suck. ;-)
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:00 AM   #6
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I have strongly considered just doing flat fenders, metal cloak or poison spyder, to help. I do still have stock bumpers with no winch, a small factory rake is still evident....not much though. I still love this lift and wouldn't hesitate to endorse it!
As for gearing, I have 4.10s and the pentastar so I would think 35s would be fine.... Or so I hope. Is there any contraindications to adding a 3.5 aev coil on the front while running 2.5 in the rear? I could do spacers but I'd prefer coils if possible. I guess I could just do it right and place a 3.5 lift...
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #7
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AEV is known for rake. I would just add a spacer to level it out instead of mixing coils. Flat fenders will def help. MC control arms
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Yup, I have the 2.5 AEV lift w/ 34" tires and slight rake. Once I add my bumpers and winch, I might have to throw a spacer in to level it out. I'd go flat flares before lifting it higher, but that's my personal preference.
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AEV is known for rake. I would just add a spacer to level it out instead of mixing coils. Flat fenders will def help. MC control arms
Mc control arms and track bar coming in tomorrow. Sooooooo excited.
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Mc control arms and track bar coming in tomorrow. Sooooooo excited.
Assuming you are running the drop brackets ? You going to remove or try running both ?
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Assuming you are running the drop brackets ? You going to remove or try running both ?
Definitely remove, hopefully sell. I thoroughly enjoyed the brackets, I just want more clearance.
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Definitely remove, hopefully sell. I thoroughly enjoyed the brackets, I just want more clearance.
Running the Rancho brackets and still undecided what I am going to do.
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Old 12-17-2013, 01:46 PM   #13
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Running the Rancho brackets and still undecided what I am going to do.
I'll let you know how these MC arms are. I've heard such great things, but I've also been super happy with the geo brackets.
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AEV is known for rake. I would just add a spacer to level it out instead of mixing coils. Flat fenders will def help. MC control arms
I have the same problem with my 2.5 AEV lift, a slight rake that I would like to eliminate, already have the .5 inch spacers but have not installed them because I have read elsewhere that this could mess with the AEV suspension tuning and could cause the springs to get over compressed and cause them to start sagging. My Jeep is pretty heavy with aftermarket bumpers, winch, rock rails and other goodies.

What do you guys think, are there going to be any negatives on down the road by installing these spacers ?
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I have the same problem with my 2.5 AEV lift, a slight rake that I would like to eliminate, already have the .5 inch spacers but have not installed them because I have read elsewhere that this could mess with the AEV suspension tuning and could cause the springs to get over compressed and cause them to start sagging. My Jeep is pretty heavy with aftermarket bumpers, winch, rock rails and other goodies.

What do you guys think, are there going to be any negatives on down the road by installing these spacers ?
Jeez ... .5 spacers. Where the heck did you see this ?


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Old 12-17-2013, 09:58 PM   #16
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Read it on the AEV forum, posted by one of the senior members.
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I have the same problem with my 2.5 AEV lift, a slight rake that I would like to eliminate, already have the .5 inch spacers but have not installed them because I have read elsewhere that this could mess with the AEV suspension tuning and could cause the springs to get over compressed and cause them to start sagging. My Jeep is pretty heavy with aftermarket bumpers, winch, rock rails and other goodies.

What do you guys think, are there going to be any negatives on down the road by installing these spacers ?
What? That doesn't even make sense. A 1/2 inch spacer is going to simply do that, lift the jeep a 1/2 inch. It is not going to further compress the spring resulting in additional sagging.
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Old 12-17-2013, 10:21 PM   #18
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What? That doesn't even make sense. A 1/2 inch spacer is going to simply do that, lift the jeep a 1/2 inch. It is not going to further compress the spring resulting in additional sagging.
I agree completely but as the suspension is compressing wouldn't the spring also be compressed an additional .5 inches? I don't see how this could damage the spring but I haven't a clue and would really like to install these spaces.
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I think I know what you are saying, but I don't think it works like that. Basically if your spring is being compressed 4 inches upwards, then with the spacer, it would still compress 4" on the equivalent "obstacle". Essentially, the only difference is that your fenders should be sitting an additional .5" higher. If you were worried that the additional clearance would allow the tire to travel higher and thereby allowing the spring to be compressed "too much" then you should be able to change your bumpstop height to eliminate it. But really, i don't think that overcompressing the spring is going to be a problem, or a problem I have heard of. Really, I think the argument against spacers is that it can change the springs "tuning". Really, someone else can help better before I start talking about stuff I barely have a grasp on myself.
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Old 12-18-2013, 05:34 PM   #20
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Oh boy!!! The big brown just dropped off 2 packages from metalcloak!!! MC has been a dream to deal with, they shipped out the same day I ordered from them online and everything somehow looks better in person than online. I can't wait to install the CAs and trackbar.
I guess I'll give the 35s a try without doing anything and see if I like it's stance. Otherwise, I suspect I'll end up getting a 3.5" MC lift and trying to sell my AEV 2.5"....if I can.
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Yeah my plan is to work to 37s this winter and see how I like 37s with 2.5 inches and then grab thw 3.5" springs and new 6 pax shocks if needed.
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Old 12-18-2013, 06:28 PM   #22
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Yeah my plan is to work to 37s this winter and see how I like 37s with 2.5 inches and then grab thw 3.5" springs and new 6 pax shocks if needed.
I always said I wanted a 6 pack.....

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