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Old 02-16-2012, 09:21 AM   #1
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I want another Wrangler!

My plan is to order an early 2013. I have been lurking and reading. Initially, I plan on some kind of a 2.5" or 3" lift along with 16" wheels and 35" Duratracs and the factory 3.73 gears. My last Jeep, an '03 TJ was an auto with 4.56 gears. I may not re-gear this one right away. My question is if I do not re-gear right away which would would work best as a DD with the above combo, the auto or 6 speed? I could go either direction with transmission choice. I'm not asking the worn out question of auto or stick but rather which transmission would be better for a while before I do re-gear.

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6 Speed.. of course things are different now with the 3.6.. Much less downfall to stock gearing and the auto trans as there use to be.. I'll go find the chart

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Thanks for the quick reply. Looking at the chart you included, it looks like the auto 3.73 with 35" tires would have 2081 rpm's and the stick 3.73 with 35" tires would have 1998 rpm's. Unless I'm missing something wouldn't that make the auto more driveable with the same setup?
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Thanks for the quick reply. Looking at the chart you included, it looks like the auto 3.73 with 35" tires would have 2081 rpm's and the stick 3.73 with 35" tires would have 1998 rpm's. Unless I'm missing something wouldn't that make the auto more driveable with the same setup?
100 rpm isn't too noticeable. Technically it might be a little more drivable but I think 1st gear might be a little lower in the 6speed. That chart only looks at OD
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:43 AM   #6
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Thanks for the quick reply. Looking at the chart you included, it looks like the auto 3.73 with 35" tires would have 2081 rpm's and the stick 3.73 with 35" tires would have 1998 rpm's. Unless I'm missing something wouldn't that make the auto more driveable with the same setup?
I suppose, but what of you'd rather have 2300 RPMs? With a stick, you can more readily elect to downshift or just not upshift in the first place. You can of course also turn off the OD with the auto or use the triptonic shifting, but it's more natural with the stick IMO.
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If you're single, get the auto. If you love your wife, get the auto. If you're not taking either with you anywhere, get the stick. That way you can hold their hand while you drive your DD around town, buying them all the pretty gifts you owe them for allowing you to buy such a great vehicle......

What do you mean, valentines day is over??!!!

Never mind this whole thing.
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Those are some good points. I got the auto in my '03 TJ at the urging of my wife so that she could drive it just in case of an emergency. In the 6 years I had it no "emergency" ever came up. This time I think I'll get the stick for ME. After the TJ I bought a Toyota Tundra. Great truck but I miss having a jeep. Time to go back.
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Probably my favorite thing about the 3.6 no matter what trans you got is you don't have to think about regearing till you get over 35's (presuming you select the 3.73 or even better 4.10 gearing).. Most of us don't need to run any bigger of a tire..
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Great point and a good chart too. Math is always your friend!

I'm finding the 3.8 a little doggie even as a DD. I do shut off the overdrive around town.

Hopefully CAI and Exhaust and Reprogrammer helps a little as I'd like to upgrade to 33" with the auto and 373's.


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Probably my favorite thing about the 3.6 no matter what trans you got is you don't have to think about regearing till you get over 35's (presuming you select the 3.73 or even better 4.10 gearing).. Most of us don't need to run any bigger of a tire..
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Hopefully CAI and Exhaust and Reprogrammer helps a little as I'd like to upgrade to 33" with the auto and 373's.
Save the coin for the CAI/Exhaust and go for a regearing instead. Put some 5.13s in there and you'll have a whole new jeep.
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Ha Ha, thats phase II when its not so much a DD.

5.13's lockers & 35's on a 4" long arm lift! Waalaa a real jeep...


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Save the coin for the CAI/Exhaust and go for a regearing instead. Put some 5.13s in there and you'll have a whole new jeep.
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I regeared my 2010 auto to 4.88 with 33's and it has no problem as a DD or highway driving for that matter. I could care less about the 3.6 at this point. I can even tow with it. The only thing wrong with a older JK is they were geared wrong. Regear and they are great. CAI and exhaust is a waist of money that could be used to regear with and get real improvements.
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I regeared my 2010 auto to 4.88 with 33's and it has no problem as a DD or highway driving for that matter. I could care less about the 3.6 at this point. I can even tow with it. The only thing wrong with a older JK is they were geared wrong. Regear and they are great. CAI and exhaust is a waist of money that could be used to regear with and get real improvements.
How does yours drive with that setup? Rpm @ 65 mph and mileage... I've been to 2 well known shops in the area and one recommends 4.88 and the other 5.13 when I switch my 33's for 35's. I get almost 16 MPG and not really any complaints currently with 3.73's.
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It drives great with 33's around 2450 rpms' at 70mph. If I was going to 35's I would have got 5.13's for sure. I am not a fan of 35's though because of the extra stress is not worth the 1" clearance to me. Too many it is. I got my axles gusseted when I did my gears, if I was going to 35's, I would have sleeved the axle also and probably though about chomoly axles. 35's and up with stock components don't really mix well on the trail.
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Will take a fresh look at this as it seems to be a crowd favorite.

I will admit my last experience with benificial gear changes was with a 5.0 mustang.

Its all just good old math so 33's and 488's are in the mix for ideas...

Thanks all for the honest opinions they are invaluable!!

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