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Old 02-04-2017, 06:22 PM   #1
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If you could start over with your JK...

What would you do differently from day one?
I plan to drive mine home from the dealer and Fluid Film it with less than five miles on the clock.
I'll also install a grill screen so I don't end up with a bunch of bent up rad fins.
I saw derlin door hinge inserts mentioned that I'm interned in and would like to learn about.
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Surprisingly, I woulda have gone automatic. Mine is both a daily driver in DC traffic and a trail rig. I'd prefer automatic in both those situations.

Delrin hinges are good call. Better than stock headlights and seat covers (if you have a dog).

Don't: buy JW Speaker taillights (backup lights are shit), pay for Mopar maintenance plan, sell your hardtop, think you'll ever have money for anything but your Jeep ever again.

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Delrin Pins are awesome for taking the doors off and the grill screen is a good call as well. Make sure you do plenty of research before pulling the trigger on expensive mods like lift, tires, armor etc. Lot's of stuff out there and tons of opinions.

Biggest thing is drive it and have fun!
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i probably would have gotten a rubicon... but probably would have had too switch things up as well. So i guess no, building your dream rig is half the journey ... just make sure you get the tranny you want!
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I wouldn't replace the factory plastic bumpers with the Hard Rock bumpers; I'd stick with the Mopar Offroad bumpers.

The Mopar Offroad bumpers cost a lot less, are solid, fit like a glove, already come with a hoop, come ready to take a Warn winch, are a breeze to keep clean, lets you keep the factory tow hitch, and make any JK look good.
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I wouldn't replace the factory plastic bumpers with the Hard Rock bumpers; I'd stick with the Mopar Offroad bumpers.

The Mopar Offroad bumpers cost a lot less, are solid, fit like a glove, already come with a hoop, come ready to take a Warn winch, are a breeze to keep clean, lets you keep the factory tow hitch, and make any JK look good.


Thanks for this tip. Was thinking about doing just that but sounds like the Mopar Off-road is a better idea all around.


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Thanks for this tip. Was thinking about doing just that but sounds like the Mopar Off-road is a better idea all around.


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To be fair, a big drawback of the Mopar Offroad bumper is that it only takes a couple of offset winches, like the Warn 9.5cti-s and Warn 9000XDi, both excellent winches but pricey. However, you save several hundred dollars on the bumpers, and because you don't need to buy a winch plate, a fairlead plate or a hoop (they are all built-in), you end up saving a ton more money.

Same thing with the hitch: the regular tow hitch doesn't fit the Hard Rock rear bumper; you have to buy a different kind. No such thing with the Offroad bumper, it retains the factory tow hitch without issue.

And as great as the Hard Rock bumper looks, I found those end openings to be the worst mud traps.
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What would you do differently from day one?
I plan to drive mine home from the dealer and Fluid Film it with less than five miles on the clock.
I'll also install a grill screen so I don't end up with a bunch of bent up rad fins.
I saw derlin door hinge inserts mentioned that I'm interned in and would like to learn about.
You are off to a good start. I have the metalcrafters grill insert in addition to your other mentions. FF Everything to incl driveshafts.
I have a hardtop and love it. Mopar headliner.
Sill guards, front mudflaps, GraBars, M.O.R.E. dead pedal,

Stay stock as long as possible and sleep on it a lot before the "itis" gets you.
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if i could start over i would spent all in suspension and drivetrain. But i'm big tires guy.
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To be fair, a big drawback of the Mopar Offroad bumper is that it only takes a couple of offset winches,
I believe that all the later Hard Rock bumpers have a centered winch setup.
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If i could do it over again, i would have bought the 2018 with Diesel
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I believe that all the later Hard Rock bumpers have a centered winch setup.
My understanding is that the fairlead plate, which remains an additional cost, was redesigned to work with both centered and offset winches. There used to be two different fairlead plates before, depending on which winch you got/planned to get.
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1) I would have not bought the Willys package. I have changed so much that it is not a Willys anymore. The only thing that is different, if I would have gotten a sport and upgraded it, is the 4x4 sticker on the tailgate. Going by the build it on the Jeep webpage, I could have saved about $2300 which is more than the cost of the regear that I am wanting now. I lied to myself thinking that it would satisfy me as it was.

2) Gotten 315s instead of the 285s right off the bat

3) Gone with the Lifetime LEDs instead of the RI pods

4) Gotten the heated TruckLites instead of the non-heated version. Didn't think about the lens icing because lack of heat

5) Gotten backspaced rims instead of going through the adapter ordeal
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Thanks RubiconSS
FF is a MUST!
I bought a 2000 TJ 4.0 in 2009. I lost it two years ago to frame rot. This one will be diffrent.
The guy I bought the TJ from was the second owner and I got the impression that I was going to be the first person ever to take the doors off. I got up early one beautiful Saturday morning ready for my first ever topless/doorless cruise. I spent an entire day trying to remove them. It was EXHAUSTING!!! I am (or was) a rugby player, I crush squats and deadlifts regularly and I was giving my ALL!!! It felt like I was lifting the thing off the ground (obvi I wasn't...). So yeah, Fluid Film and derlin liners, day one, no question.
Mine should arrive in about six weeks. You won't see a fancy build from me, just small mods to prevent known problems. All my money goes to motorcycle racing, that's my 'itis!
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Thanks for this tip. Was thinking about doing just that but sounds like the Mopar Off-road is a better idea all around.


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I put the HR bumpers on my Willy's and don't regret it one bit. They look great and fit perfectly for the stock plus look I was going for.
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1) I would have not bought the Willys package. I have changed so much that it is not a Willys anymore. The only thing that is different, if I would have gotten a sport and upgraded it, is the 4x4 sticker on the tailgate. Going by the build it on the Jeep webpage, I could have saved about $2300 which is more than the cost of the regear that I am wanting now. I lied to myself thinking that it would satisfy me as it was.

2) Gotten 315s instead of the 285s right off the bat

3) Gone with the Lifetime LEDs instead of the RI pods

4) Gotten the heated TruckLites instead of the non-heated version. Didn't think about the lens icing because lack of heat

5) Gotten backspaced rims instead of going through the adapter ordeal
I bought the Willy's package and knew what I wanted to do. I wish I would have been able to get a HR or a Rubicon, but at the time I was unable to afford it so I got a good deal on a Willy's.

As far as regrets, I have done exactly what I wanted. I stuck with Willy's wheels and added spacers. The only thing I could have done without is the Teraflex adjustable carrier. The hinges and stock carrier are plenty for my setup. I will be selling the TF adjustable since I won't see 37's anytime in the near future. Another regret is I should have gone with the Alpine 9 speaker, but I thought it would be dangerous with my puppy's nails and still do. It is way better than stock in sound though.

I had plenty of regrets with my '15 Rubicon and my '13 Sport. My biggest regret was buying a Grand Cherokee and getting crushed when I hated it and traded it for my Willy's.
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1. FF day one
2. Anything but fox shocks
3. bought it with the hard top
4. waited till the JT comes out
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I bought mine in '09 when Jeep was giving them away, and I really regret not spending the extra $1800 the dealer wanted for a Rubicon. Especially back then when it was 0% financing.

So if I did it over again (which I may if I give my '09 to my son), I'll get a Rubicon and not wait so long to install an adjustable trackbar and control arms. I just added an adjustable TB and can't believe how it settled the front end down. Why the heck did I wait 5 years to fix the flighty steering?!
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I'm just starting out with my 2017 and won't be doing any major mods anytime soon but here's what I've done for convenience features so far:

Rugged ridge c3 cargo cover (or any cargo cover) if you have a dog. My labs course hair still imbeds into it a bit but all I have to do is brush the cover with my hand and it falls out and is easily vacuumed up.

Magic mount pro for the cell phone. I went with the 130 head unit in my Jeep because if I was going to pay 1k for a stereo it was going to be an Alpine or pioneer hu.

Amsoil HD MP all over the bottom of the Jeep and in the frame (Fluid film is great too). For the internal frame coating pick up the multi directional hose attachment that FF makes. Then get a few feet of windshield washer tubing to run it through. It helps routing the hose through the frame when spraying.

Get a 2" class iii hitch. I went with a Curt hitch made for my hard rock bumper. It's come in very handy.

Sill plates from Mopar.

I hated the stock antenna but stubbies don't work well in my neck of the woods so I got the Q tech CB style quick disconnect antenna. I like it and reception is good. Pops off really quick when going through a car wash.

I got a roll top cover for the dash cubby. I like storing my shades up there and having them out of sight at the same time.

I'm still trying to decide on a grill screen but agree it's a good idea to run one off the bat.

Only other advice I could add is drive it stock (suspension) for a while. Do I want a lift? Heck yeah. But it's also my DD and the stock ride has done everything I've asked of it so far.

Maybe look into a Griffin attenuator from street smarts? I'm debating on one right now.

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As many have said already. Give it a bit of time doing research. The things you like now will likely not be what you will like down the road a few months, after you get used to looking at builds.
As for me, I would've not gone with a full width bumper had I thought my build through. I would've built my suspension BEFORE I put my blower on it. My reason for doing in the order I did was sound, I wanted to get used to the power and drivability of it with the charger on it before I lifted and regeared it to better know the limits and freedoms that come with it. Looking back, it was the right decision, but I still would've done it the other way if I could go back.
The main thing I would've done differently would be to comb the forums, spend some time talking to jeeple, and doing web research before ever touching mods.
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1. FF day one
2. Anything but fox shocks
3. bought it with the hard top
4. waited till the JT comes out

What's your complaint with the fox shocks? I'm planning on using them so I would appreciate your input
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What's your complaint with the fox shocks? I'm planning on using them so I would appreciate your input

Man are they stiff. Iv got the mopar lift with geo brackets and no matter how much weight I seem to through at my 2 door it just bounces me around like crazy. 33" K02's iv explored everything from 22-33 psi. Everyone who gets in my jeep thinks its super rough. Before the lift I had the 9000's and they were great. Id highly recommend going that route. I am saving pennies trying to get my jk paid off or id be swapping them out immediately. several people have said the same.
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I'd have gotten leather instead of cloth seats. The cloth is nice when it's frigid cold outside, but it doesn't seem like it'll hold up and I know it'll fade over time. I'll replace it with Katzkin leather when it gets bad, so there's that, but I'd have preferred to have the factory leather pre-installed with my side airbags.
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I'd have gotten leather instead of cloth seats. The cloth is nice when it's frigid cold outside, but it doesn't seem like it'll hold up and I know it'll fade over time. I'll replace it with Katzkin leather when it gets bad, so there's that, but I'd have preferred to have the factory leather pre-installed with my side airbags.


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Man are they stiff. Iv got the mopar lift with geo brackets and no matter how much weight I seem to through at my 2 door it just bounces me around like crazy. 33" K02's iv explored everything from 22-33 psi. Everyone who gets in my jeep thinks its super rough. Before the lift I had the 9000's and they were great. Id highly recommend going that route. I am saving pennies trying to get my jk paid off or id be swapping them out immediately. several people have said the same.


I have a 2 door and run a 2.5" JKS lift with Fox shocks and rides as smooth as a 2 door can. I've had people get in my 2 door thought it drove better than their SUV. I would say it's the springs that dictate the roughness since they carry the load.


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I had two months to read the forums while waiting for my Rubicon to be built.

Fluid Film - done!
Grill screen - done!
Delrin door hinge inserts - done!

My only regret was buying some Chinese made wheels.
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I would have....

-Started with a Rubicon
-Installed 5100s with my lift
-Not done my BBK
-Not gotten a hard top
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One thing I would do that I forgot about. I would have gone with a 3.5" lift because I think that is the perfect size. I wanted to save money with a 2.5".


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I had two months to read the forums while waiting for my Rubicon to be built.



Fluid Film - done!

Grill screen - done!

Delrin door hinge inserts - done!



My only regret was buying some Chinese made wheels.


Don't beat yourself up on the wheels. I seem to recall that most if not all rims are made in China nowadays.


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