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Old 08-18-2010, 06:43 PM   #1
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Im so p.o.

I live here in east Texas. I love to go play in the mud. We've got dirt, mud, hills, and thats it. No big rocks to climb. I bought a 2010 jeep wrangler sport becuse i wanted a vehicle that i could fix the way i wanted it and not have to pay extra for a bunch of BS that i didnt want. So im all excited about my jeep. window shopping online for all this cool stuff thats cheap as hell thinking im gonna build a bad a** jeep! And then its like someone just s**t on my parade!!!!!! Not pi**ed but s**t! I BOUGHT A FREAKIN 6 SPEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you dont know what that means it means that a JK wrangler with a manual tranny cant go in the mud. Cuz the stupid engineers engineered the clutch with vent holes on the freakin bottum of it. Witch means that mud and water can get up in there and mess up your clutch. And from what ive been told you just cant plug them up cuz it cools and lets the clutch dust fall out. PLEASE if anyone has or knows or even just thinks they have a way that i can solve this problem let me know. Cuz right now im really not liking my jeep anymore!

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Is it already in your possession? Tell the dear you want an auto.

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Old 08-18-2010, 06:47 PM   #3
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Just don't shift gears in the middle of the mud hole. Whats the big deal anyway? It's only a CLUTCH, it's nowhere near as expensive as the junky JK automatic trans. they are using.
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dont the autos on jks have a recall going on for them? My aunt had to bring in her jk because of a recall with the tranny or something like that. And id go with the above just fined a sweet gear and dont shift out of it.
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You i really didnt even think of that and i just looked out the window at my jeep and i fell in love again. i fell like a jack a**. what was i thinking. ok im all better. oh and to here say the automatic is a peice makes me fell even better.
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:27 PM   #6
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Yea the auto is deffinitly not anything to go home about and odds are it would overheat in the mud if your wheels are spinning a lot!
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:30 PM   #7
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Yeah, just don't shift. I wheel mud with guys in manuals all the time....
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:43 PM   #8
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how about an 05 with a 6 speed, does it have the same vents?
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Old 08-18-2010, 07:58 PM   #9
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Been wheeling both my '09 6-speeds in mud- never had a problem. Still on clutch numero uno in each Mark W.
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Put in 4 Lo and you're good. There's no need to use the clutch. Even if you should stall, and it's almost impossible in 4 Lo, you can start in 1st gear without using the clutch in 4 Lo.
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how about an 05 with a 6 speed, does it have the same vents?
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Yep- same transmission. It's not a JK though Mark W.
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afaik??? whats it mean

I drove a manual trruck in mud for years and no problem 244k miles on and its got the stock clutch lol
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afaik??? whats it mean

I drove a manual trruck in mud for years and no problem 244k miles on and its got the stock clutch lol
Afaik= I think!

Right, Inferno....?
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Old 08-19-2010, 07:17 AM   #17
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I love grinding my JK gears when in the mud! It makes this really great smell and fills my Jeep with smoke....
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Old 08-19-2010, 08:40 AM   #18
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Not to mention, you can always clutchless shift if you're any kind of decent at driving... Mark W.
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Not to mention, you can always clutchless shift if you're any kind of decent at driving... Mark W.
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Oh.......

First time I've heard that.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:00 AM   #21
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Not to mention, you can always clutchless shift if you're any kind of decent at driving... Mark W.
Yes another great point. Yeah can float my gears. It pops in at around 1,800 or so. And for those you I apologize for my language earlier. It was uncalled for.
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Old 08-19-2010, 10:25 AM   #22
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dont the autos on jks have a recall going on for them? My aunt had to bring in her jk because of a recall with the tranny or something like that. And id go with the above just fined a sweet gear and dont shift out of it.
The tranny fluid overheats when offroading with an automatic. Not sure if they put in a new sensor, or change the computer to warn you sooner. Funny, they supposedly tell you to let it cool off ... no s&*t. Also, I read on this site that there is an auxiliary trans fluid cooler that you can install.
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Oh.......

First time I've heard that.
Listen to the engine, and I'll bet you can figure out how to shift without the clutch. Takes a little practice. When your ear tells you it is time to shift, gently shift without using the gas peddle. For some reason I always end up pausing in neutral momentarily before I go on to the next gear, so it feels like a 2 step process. Just try to shift as the RPMs are moving down not up, i can't get it to work while increasing RPMs at the same time. Don't try to slam it into the next gear, do it gently.

Almost all tractor trailor drivers do it. When I went to take a driving test for a CDL, the tester insisted on me using the clutch, but I talked him out of it and passed anyhow.

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Old 08-19-2010, 10:55 AM   #24
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As soon as it comes out of gear, the engine will slow and, if shifting into a higher gear that is what is needed so keeping the shifter against the next gear, when the two gears are turning at the same speed, the stick will move into the next gear. If the RPMs fall too low, then a goose on the gas will be necessary to get it into gear. Down-shifting is just the opposite. The RPMs of the engine has to be bumped up until the gears match speed so a little goose on the gas is required. None of this clutch-less shifting can be done under serious power because serious gear grinding will result.
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Old 08-19-2010, 12:52 PM   #25
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Ooo this is educating. So hypothetically if you get stuck, I mean stopped in mud, do you "just" rev the engine and pop the gear in? I'm seriously interested in this - thought our manual needed to stay away from mudding. Sounds like one needs to cruise around clutch-less shifting to get the feel for it - give the gears a good grinding...
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I'm not positive but I don't think you do it from a dead stop. When I drive I don't always use the clutch its fun floating the gears. Plus its great practice if your clutch ever goes out. But if you stop I think your pretty much screwed. Correct if I'm wrong tho. I drive a 2010 wrangler sport 6speed and if I'm floating them ill let my Rpms get up to 2,300 and try putting it into the next gear. Don't force but a little preasure on it and it should fall in at like 1,800 rpms. If starts grinding either you can rev it back and try again or just use the clutch.
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^^ Actually to get started in 2 or 4 high, shift into first and start the jeep with it in gear. It will buck a couple of times and off you go. I wouldn't do it on the trail though as the gearing is too high. That would require a smoother surface like tar or gravel with not too much incline.

In 4 low, pick a gear and then start the engine. On a steep grade, start it in a low gear and move slowly until out of the muck.
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BTW, I've been saved on the road twice using the start the engine in gear method of getting going. The clutch pedal was on the floor, clutch pivot fork broke off the side of the tranny housing. Didn't have to get towed. Once the jeep is moving try to stay moving by approaching lights very slowly so that by the time you get there traffic is moving again. It is not healthy to start it in gear as a regular practice but will do in a pinch. Starting it in 4 low is easier on the gears because of the low gearing.

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