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Old 03-18-2012, 10:00 AM   #1
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Installing the Trektop NX

Okay.... My wife and I just finished installing the Trektop NX (extremely tight fit). However on the install instructions step 26 it says to "fasten the loop strip sewn inside the top to the hook strip along the top of the quater window on each side of the vehicle".

The only thing I see to fasten is velcro.

For anyone that has installed this top is there something I am missing on this step? Is it just the velcro (which seems to hold very well) or is there some type of hook and loop fastener that I am not seeing?

Any input would be appreciated.

Oh and by the way it says installation time is just an hour.... Yeah right!! More like 3-4 hours. But it seems to be an extremely well made top. Today will tell as we will take the Jeep out for a ride.

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I really don't understand why these companies won't do a detailed youtube video on how to install their products on every vehicle that they sell them for. It would take 2 guys an hour to do it and they already do it in their garage anyway when they are proofing their product. I know they have some videos but they are for a YJ and the resolution is poor and the angles are bad. Cryptic instructions with black and white drawings on how to install these things are just not cutting the mustard in 2012. These companies really need to get a grip on customer service and support. I'm sorry...

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They must be talking about the Velcro.....hook and loop fastener is the product name, Velcro is a brand name. Like tissue and Kleenex.
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Okay.... My wife and I just finished installing the Trektop NX (extremely tight fit). However on the install instructions step 26 it says to "fasten the loop strip sewn inside the top to the hook strip along the top of the quater window on each side of the vehicle".

The only thing I see to fasten is velcro.

For anyone that has installed this top is there something I am missing on this step? Is it just the velcro (which seems to hold very well) or is there some type of hook and loop fastener that I am not seeing?

Any input would be appreciated.

Oh and by the way it says installation time is just an hour.... Yeah right!! More like 3-4 hours. But it seems to be an extremely well made top. Today will tell as we will take the Jeep out for a ride.

Thank you.
Took me and my father in law three hours, but it was cold here, but I think it should come with a first aid kit. Anyhow, it kind of sounds like your talking about the center bow strap. The top came with two straps with a hook on one end. The hooks latch where the two screw things that hold down the hard top panels at the sound bar.
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Okay.... My wife and I just finished installing the Trektop NX (extremely tight fit). However on the install instructions step 26 it says to "fasten the loop strip sewn inside the top to the hook strip along the top of the quater window on each side of the vehicle".

The only thing I see to fasten is velcro.

For anyone that has installed this top is there something I am missing on this step? Is it just the velcro (which seems to hold very well) or is there some type of hook and loop fastener that I am not seeing?

Any input would be appreciated.

Oh and by the way it says installation time is just an hour.... Yeah right!! More like 3-4 hours. But it seems to be an extremely well made top. Today will tell as we will take the Jeep out for a ride.

Thank you.
Only thing there is those two pain in the ass zippers that take a small platoon of help to get over the rear bow bracket.
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Yea it took me like 4-5 hours also.........i have a problem with the rear top not fitting into the gutter track.....it works great! Drove both open and closed at high speed.

Someone take a look at my pics and give me help please.

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Is it a cable like the supertop nx. My supertop nx had problem on the passenger side. looked the same as yours. I just grab it and pull it up and out. no problems. It seams after open and closing the sunrider it is starting to go in some by itself.
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I popped the bottom of the top out of the track so you can put the bar straight in. On the tailgate bar the plastic retainer clips, the flat side of the clip goes towards the inside and the slanted towards the outside. Hook the flat side first, then lean on the slanted part and it should catch. I had the slanted part inside, needless to say it didn't work.
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I really don't understand why these companies won't do a detailed youtube video on how to install their products on every vehicle that they sell them for. It would take 2 guys an hour to do it and they already do it in their garage anyway when they are proofing their product...These companies really need to get a grip on customer service and support. I'm sorry...
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Old 03-18-2012, 03:14 PM   #10
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I agree Cas. The only time I called bestop they said their product wouldn't work on my '12 even though it did and she seemed disinterested and uncaring on the phone anyway. I hear they have done the same with others giving bad info about their product compatibility. Half assed instructions and no video on youtube in the year 2012 and it makes me very antsy to buy their top. Time for someone there to get a clue.
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Yea it took me like 4-5 hours also.........i have a problem with the rear top not fitting into the gutter track.....it works great! Drove both open and closed at high speed.

Someone take a look at my pics and give me help please.

Thanks,
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Rob I am not sure about the rear portion on yours. It looks like it needs to just stretch some. How long has it been on and what has the tempature been like since you installed it?
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Took me and my father in law three hours, but it was cold here, but I think it should come with a first aid kit. Anyhow, it kind of sounds like your talking about the center bow strap. The top came with two straps with a hook on one end. The hooks latch where the two screw things that hold down the hard top panels at the sound bar.

I thought that but that step is #15. That went on no problem. I am calling Bestop tomorrow and asking what they mean by "hook and loop".
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I thought that but that step is #15. That went on no problem. I am calling Bestop tomorrow and asking what they mean by "hook and loop".
Instead of calling them check out this link:

Velcro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Velcro is the brand name of the first commercially marketed fabric hook-and-loop fastener"

They wont use the name Velcro because they could get sued
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Instead of calling them check out this link:

Velcro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


"Velcro is the brand name of the first commercially marketed fabric hook-and-loop fastener"

They wont use the name Velcro because they could get sued

Well that makes sense. Done!! Thanks for all the help.
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frogman, are you noticing and cons about the way the back is slanted, are there any majors pros besides the great look? I am trying to suggest this top for my parents jk, they want a soft top and I think this look is the best.
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It took me a little over 2 hours to install the first time last summer...but I was using a how-to thread someone wrote up on this forum. I just looked and couldn't find it.

From your pics, all I can recommend is to make sure the flap folds over the door surrounds and also, try putting your back window on before the sides. I hook the top of the back window into the plastic groove and one side, then once it's seated, slide it across.

The tailgate bar is a crappy design and difficult to hook. I would recommend someone that's getting rid of their factory soft top and taking their tailgate bar and brackets. SO MUCH EASIER.
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frogman, are you noticing and cons about the way the back is slanted, are there any majors pros besides the great look? I am trying to suggest this top for my parents jk, they want a soft top and I think this look is the best.

So far (1 day) I have not noticed any cons. As far as pros, other than the look, the dimished area of the back might help in hard blowing crosswinds that tend to move the Jeep around quite a bit. I have had nothing but good reviews from people today about the way it makes the Jeep look.
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Okay.... My wife and I just finished installing the Trektop NX (extremely tight fit). However on the install instructions step 26 it says to "fasten the loop strip sewn inside the top to the hook strip along the top of the quater window on each side of the vehicle".

The only thing I see to fasten is velcro.

For anyone that has installed this top is there something I am missing on this step? Is it just the velcro (which seems to hold very well) or is there some type of hook and loop fastener that I am not seeing?

Any input would be appreciated.

Oh and by the way it says installation time is just an hour.... Yeah right!! More like 3-4 hours. But it seems to be an extremely well made top. Today will tell as we will take the Jeep out for a ride.

Thank you.
I tried installing mine yesterday....and would rather have wrestled a bull. I thought the temperature was up enough (mid 70s), but I guess not. I had trouble getting the rear window to stay in the door surround tracks, any suggestions?

I ended up having to drive in this morning with just the bikini top in the "flap back" position. Hopefully it will heat up in the sun so that I can at least lock the header down before re-engaging with the rear windows.
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... all I can recommend is to make sure the flap folds over the door surrounds ..
That is the only problem I am having with mine. Installed it a week or so ago and I cannot get those dang little flaps to sit inside the door surround area where they are supposed to go.
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I tried installing mine yesterday....and would rather have wrestled a bull. I thought the temperature was up enough (mid 70s), but I guess not. I had trouble getting the rear window to stay in the door surround tracks, any suggestions?

I ended up having to drive in this morning with just the bikini top in the "flap back" position. Hopefully it will heat up in the sun so that I can at least lock the header down before re-engaging with the rear windows.


I assume you talking about the plastic track that runs along the top of the back window that fits into the plastic track attached at the rear of the top.?

If this is it good luck!! Just kidding. With a little work and 2 people you can get it to stay in while you zip the window down a few inches. Then you can work on getting the rear window into the tailgate bar clips which is a royal pain. It says to just roll the clips attached at the bottom of the rear window onto the metal retainer clips that is attached to the Jeep but it is not as easy as thay make it seem. My wife and I now have arthritis in bothe hands due to trying to get those bottom clips to fit. Just have patience and be able to bench press 400lbs. and you will get it to work.
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That is the only problem I am having with mine. Installed it a week or so ago and I cannot get those dang little flaps to sit inside the door surround area where they are supposed to go.

I did not have any problem with mine fitting the way it was suppossed to but it was a royal pain to put on. The only thing I can suggest is to see if it stretches in 75+ degree weather. It was about 80 here when we put ours on.
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Took me and my father in law three hours, but it was cold here, but I think it should come with a first aid kit.
Agree 100%. I installed mine on Saturday in the heat of the day... all the vinyl was nice and hot... I could not, for the life of me, get the latches to hook on the header. I cursed more than I care for, and yelled at my family if they interrupted me. It was bloody hell getting that damn thing on. Now I'm afraid to unlatch the header for fear of not being able to latch again.
It's a great looking top and I'm sure I will love it... but if I knew what I knew now, I would have never bought it.
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Agree 100%. I installed mine on Saturday in the heat of the day... all the vinyl was nice and hot... I could not, for the life of me, get the latches to hook on the header. I cursed more than I care for, and yelled at my family if they interrupted me. It was bloody hell getting that damn thing on. Now I'm afraid to unlatch the header for fear of not being able to latch again.
It's a great looking top and I'm sure I will love it... but if I knew what I knew now, I would have never bought it.
Maybe you can adjust the spring thingy!!!
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The spring should be on the outside hole. My top is a year old, still cant use the middle or inside holes for the spring.
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The spring should be on the outside hole. My top is a year old, still cant use the middle or inside holes for the spring.

I put my springs in the middle hole and then pushed and slammed my palm down on the top where the header clamps are trying to get them to latch. Even have a bruise on my palm to prove it. Then I got smart and used pliers to clamp them down and then pulled the top of the clamp down to lock the top down.

It is extremely tight and today we had 40 mph winds and not a bit of movement.
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Tried everything, I mean everything to get it to latch... Spring was on the loosest setting (outside hole). took out the windows, loosed straps, moved the freedom top pin brackets all the way forward, etc. Finally persuaded in one latch, the other followed suit. My fingers were very sore the next day. Hopefully it will stretch out a bit.
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Tried everything, I mean everything to get it to latch... Spring was on the loosest setting (outside hole). took out the windows, loosed straps, moved the freedom top pin brackets all the way forward, etc. Finally persuaded in one latch, the other followed suit. My fingers were very sore the next day. Hopefully it will stretch out a bit.
I hear ya Ape. It was a bitch to get it to latch. The final step of the installation and I was running out of steam as I did the install by myself. For some reason I found the left side easier to latch than the right. Once I figures that out, the right side was a little easier. After leaving it on for a day or two, it latches right up very nicely now. It stretches and will be good to go for flipping back the sunrider.whenever you feel like it.
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I hear ya Ape. It was a bitch to get it to latch. The final step of the installation and I was running out of steam as I did the install by myself. For some reason I found the left side easier to latch than the right. Once I figures that out, the right side was a little easier. After leaving it on for a day or two, it latches right up very nicely now. It stretches and will be good to go for flipping back the sunrider.whenever you feel like it.
It took me and two friends to finally get the header latched last night. I noticed a whistling noise while driving home, then found that a little rubber is sticking up along the seal. I am afraid to unlatch it to fix it until it has a few days to stretch. I haven't tried to get the rear windows on yet after the intial failed attempts, so I drove with the back open in driving rain this morning. Bestop really needs to amend their instructions to say that it needs to be over 80 degrees with some help from direct sunlight heat to install the thing.
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You have to be careful with that header bar, on my first soft top it was too tight and the header actually split in half, that sucked ass in a big way.
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I put my Trektop NX on yesterday. Temp was upper 70s. I started at 12:30pm and finished at 5:30pm, so 5 hours for me working alone. I will echo the comments about the header bar being a biatch to get latched. I took three hours getting everything done and then two figuring out a workaround to get those two latches hooked.

The fabric was so tight that I noticed when I flipped the sunrider portion closed, the torque on the sunrider hinge was causing the bracket at the joint where the front and rear door surrounds joined to push back about a centimeter, no matter how hard I tightened the screw knob. I had to invent a workaround to prevent the slippage. At first I tried cutting little centimeter squares of wood to put down in the gap between the bracket and the surround when the bracket is pushed all the way forward. On my first attempt, the wood shattered when I shut the sunrider. Then, I found some plastic bits and again cut out centimeter squares. They held! They kept the header just far enough forward to allow me to close the latches. Whew! Just in time. It poured today!

No leaks and it's pretty darn quiet. In retrospect, I wouldn't attempt to install a Trektop NX in anything less than 80 degrees and sunshine. Thing is tight. Also, I ordered a Mopar OEM tailgate bar and brackets along with the top and had no problems getting the windows zipped in and the rear window anchored. I think I saved a lot of frustration forgoing the included tailgate contraption provided by Bestop. The weather stripping is much better on the OEM.

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